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09/03/2004 03:42:38 PM · #51

Maybe the winners get special ribbons, gold,silver,bronze or a big wedge of cash.

joanns

Fujifilm FinePix S5 Pro

09/03/2004 03:43:40 PM · #52

Originally posted by Sonifo:

Originally posted by joanns:
I thought 2 ribbons was pretty good I'm sad that I'm one short of being a "master". Maybe I'll get a ribbon in the next two challenges. LOL

You can do it! Your pictures rock!

Thanks! I'm really going to try!

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

09/03/2004 03:43:48 PM · #53

What about an elite masters challenge for those with 5 or more blue ribbons? ;-)

No make it 6 :)

crabappl3

09/03/2004 03:45:20 PM · #54

OK, I concede... 6 it is :-D

-danny

Originally posted by marbo:

What about an elite masters challenge for those with 5 or more blue ribbons? ;-)

No make it 6 :)

computerking

Sony DSC-P73

09/03/2004 03:46:15 PM · #55

Originally posted by marbo:

What about an elite masters challenge for those with 5 or more blue ribbons? ;-)

No make it 6 :)

No, 7.

...8!

heida

Canon EOS-5D

09/03/2004 03:46:26 PM · #56

Originally posted by crabappl3:

OK, I concede... 6 it is :-D

-danny

Originally posted by marbo:
What about an elite masters challenge for those with 5 or more blue ribbons? ;-)

No make it 6 :)

Why not 10 .. :)

dacrazyrn

Nikon D300

09/03/2004 03:47:56 PM · #57

When I first saw this, I was like cool! Click the button to see what a Master entails and Slap! Not you dumbass. You don't even get to read the rules. That kind of pissed me off.
Then I start reading through this and think this is a pretty freakin stupid idea. Excluding people who pay to be here. Now I could care less. Something else may be coming.
I am now waiting for the challenge for members whose "Avg Vote cast of 5.7051 and Avg Vote recieved of 5.2994" to start. (C:

Message edited by author 2004-09-03 15:49:04.

09/03/2004 03:49:00 PM · #58

Originally posted by heida:

Originally posted by crabappl3:
OK, I concede... 6 it is :-D

-danny

Originally posted by marbo:
What about an elite masters challenge for those with 5 or more blue ribbons? ;-)

No make it 6 :)

Why not 10 .. :)

Does anybody actually have ten of those ribbons?

moodville

Nikon D100

09/03/2004 03:49:22 PM · #59

Originally posted by ghoti:

I think that this is a very bad idea. The people who have earned three or more ribbons know how to score here anyway, and thus already have an advantage. So why exclude everybody else and give even more ribbons to those who already have them?

Also, this will only help to create even more similar pictures here - a "DPC style". It's already quite easy to tell which pictures will win, and I believe more diversity should be the goal now rather than equalization.

So if anybody cares for my opinion: This is a stupid, elitist idea, and I can only hope that this experiment will show that and will not be repeated.

A football team competes in a season to win. If they win a certain number of games they go into playoffs. They can then eventually earn a big cup. The playoffs and cup are recognition of their efforts. Is it elitist to have the superbowl?

Right now you win a virtual ribbon and you get your picture on the front page for a week. That is the only benefit to placing above all the other people that participate in challenges every week. So now people with three ribbons or more get an extra challenge, big whoop. Being someone who can participate then yes, I will certainly enjoy it and hope to do well, but to me it's just another 'bonus' and encouragement.

This whole 'I cant compete so it's not fair that the 'good' people get an extra challenge to get even better' attitude is really childish. Look at it as encouragement, as a way to view hopefully a selection of some wonderful photographs, and learn by means of commenting like in every other challenge.

Just remember, those who dont have three ribbons or more now and say this sucks because they are excluded may mean that this challenge will never be repeated. Which means if you ever get three ribbons or more in the future that you will NEVER be able to compete in a challenge like this. So I would suggest people think about why they really dont like this before they condemn it. You could very well be ruining your own chances in the future.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

09/03/2004 03:50:09 PM · #60

Why not 10 .. :)

NO, 10 and above ribbons should be excluded :)

crabappl3

09/03/2004 03:50:28 PM · #61

Because I don't have 10 blue ribbons :-)

-danny

Originally posted by heida:

Message edited by author 2004-09-03 15:52:34.

heida

Canon EOS-5D

09/03/2004 03:51:24 PM · #62

Originally posted by crabappl3:

Because I don't have 10 :-)

-danny

Originally posted by heida:

Originally posted by crabappl3:
OK, I concede... 6 it is :-D

-danny

Originally posted by marbo:
What about an elite masters challenge for those with 5 or more blue ribbons? ;-)

No make it 6 :)

Why not 10 .. :)

No you only have 11 :p

Message edited by author 2004-09-03 15:51:44.

ghoti

Nikon D70

09/03/2004 03:51:30 PM · #63

You're not going to take anybody seriously who's going to criticize this challenge and hasn't got "Master" status. So perhaps somebody with enough ribbons also thinks that this is not a good idea and has the guts to speak up. That would be very much appreciated, and would help piss fewer envy-ass whiners like me off.

crabappl3

09/03/2004 03:53:04 PM · #64

I don't have 10 blue, my bad :-p

-danny

Originally posted by heida:

Originally posted by crabappl3:
Because I don't have 10 :-)

-danny

Originally posted by heida:

Originally posted by crabappl3:
OK, I concede... 6 it is :-D

-danny

Originally posted by marbo:
What about an elite masters challenge for those with 5 or more blue ribbons? ;-)

No make it 6 :)

Why not 10 .. :)

No you only have 11 :p

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

09/03/2004 03:54:01 PM · #65

Originally posted by ghoti:

I don't get it...I'm not even close to being a Master (both by definition and opinion) but I think this is a great idea! What's the problem here?

Sure, there are a few things I would tweak to suit my fancy but the general spirit of this challenge is exciting!

yael27

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

09/03/2004 03:54:49 PM · #66

I don't understand something. Since we can't participant, doesn't it mean we can't vote too? ):

heida

Canon EOS-5D

09/03/2004 03:55:40 PM · #67

Originally posted by crabappl3:

I don't have 10 blue, my bad :-p

-danny

Ahh I didnt see the blue part :)

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

09/03/2004 03:56:08 PM · #68

I would post the masters challenge rules here but i don`t think the non-masters would understand them :)

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

09/03/2004 03:56:09 PM · #69

Originally posted by dacrazyrn:

When I first saw this, I was like cool! Click the button to see what a Master entails and Slap! Not you dumbass. You don't even get to read the rules. That kind of pissed me off.

I thought the same thing at first ... but after reading this I remember that I'm not losing one single thing I had before (here at DPC).

Maybe this kind of surprise implementation is not the best way to experiment, but it does have the advantage of eliciting honest opinions from the members.
Personally, I prefer to see the results of an experiment before I label it stupid (or brilliant, for that matter). Experiments do not always yield the expected or desired result -- if they did, they would be exercises, not experiments. But experiments which "fail" can still yield spectacularly useful information -- for an excellent example check out the essay The Light That Failed by Isaac Asimov about the Michaelson-Moreley Experiment.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

09/03/2004 03:59:24 PM · #70

Originally posted by marbo:

I would post the masters challenge rules here but i don`t think the non-masters would understand them :)

marbo, you're special in the fact that most of the ribbon winners are being humble and gracious towards us rookies!

Why feed the whole 'elitist' complex in the minds of some of the people who have posted here?

moodville

Nikon D100

09/03/2004 04:00:48 PM · #71

Originally posted by ghoti:

It's not the status of the person complaining but the argument they put forward. The best getting better and elitist are the usual terms and words thrown around as an against argument. I can admit to not really caring for the term 'Master' as it seems to suggest people with three ribbons or more are similar to being experts. I dont claim to be an expert or even well-versed in photography. I got lucky at least three times and my images appealed to the masses. That is a very big difference.

bledford

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

09/03/2004 04:02:57 PM · #72

Can't vote, can't participate, can't even see the entries until it's over. Who cares. I don't care because the more "elite" they make winning ribbons, the harder I'm going to try to win one.

In a similar vein, the inability to vote on member challenges could be construed as elitist (i.e. only people with money to burn are deserving of a right to vote), but not much complaint goes on about that. This new challenge is free to members who qualify and damn desirable to those who don't. What's not to like?

09/03/2004 04:03:19 PM · #73

I would post the masters challenge rules here but i don`t think the non-masters would understand them :)

marbo, you're special in the fact that most of the ribbon winners are being humble and gracious towards us rookies!

Why feed the whole 'elitist' complex in the minds of some of the people who have posted here?

It was a joke. Rules= take a photo

09/03/2004 04:04:44 PM · #74

Originally posted by bledford:

That seems like a bit of a stretch to me...I can't see too many people making that argument in this consumeristic society we live in.

...but I've been surprised before.

BobsterLobster

Fujifilm FinePix S3 Pro