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07/07/2013 12:12:36 AM · #1
This is horrible. A Boeing 777...crashed in SF. Thank god there was not a greater loss of life. At the moment they are saying 2 people out of 191.
07/07/2013 12:30:00 AM · #2
291 passengers actually, 16 crew. Total of 307. Last I heard, 2 dead and 40-odd serious injuries. Amazingly low casualties for a crash of this magnitude, actually. But still horrible.
07/07/2013 12:44:06 AM · #3
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Amazingly low casualties for a crash of this magnitude, actually. But still horrible.

Even more amazing, it's the first casualties for a Boeing 777, which has been in service for 18 years.
07/07/2013 05:46:26 AM · #4
Just this week another Boeing 777 from the same airline was in trouble and had to be diverted. Please read this.//www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/07/116_138775.html
07/07/2013 08:53:22 AM · #5
I've been watching this fairly closely, since it's in my own backyard.
Actually, I heard a reverberating boom at about the time the plane hit the seawall
and wondered what happened...and I'm quite a few miles away from the airport.
Fortunately, our large airport is well-equipped and has well trained personnel. Serious casualties were
hurried to San Francisco General Hospital which is one of the best trauma centers in the USA.
Others were taken to other local hospitals.
This is a good article on the San Francisco crash.
07/07/2013 10:28:10 AM · #6
Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Amazingly low casualties for a crash of this magnitude, actually. But still horrible.

Even more amazing, it's the first casualties for a Boeing 777, which has been in service for 18 years.


Terrible indeed, and very lucky as many got off unscathed as did. I doubt this one will be chalked up to an aircraft failure. Seems like they were low on approach, tried to bring the nose up to correct, and got the tail into the ground. The aircraft may have stalled, given the behavior that witnesses reported.
07/07/2013 12:45:35 PM · #7
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Amazingly low casualties for a crash of this magnitude, actually. But still horrible.

Even more amazing, it's the first casualties for a Boeing 777, which has been in service for 18 years.


Terrible indeed, and very lucky as many got off unscathed as did. I doubt this one will be chalked up to an aircraft failure. Seems like they were low on approach, tried to bring the nose up to correct, and got the tail into the ground. The aircraft may have stalled, given the behavior that witnesses reported.


Considering the debris trail starts at the seawall, and the tail is about 100ft from the end of the runway, I'm guessing that you're quite right - looks like the pilot smacked that bird's tail on the seawall to me.

Message edited by author 2013-07-07 12:46:18.
07/07/2013 02:43:03 PM · #8

Sad that two teenaged Chinese girls lost their lives, when they could have been enjoying a Summer camp in the US.
07/07/2013 02:54:36 PM · #9
Originally posted by Ozzie:

Sad that two teenaged Chinese girls lost their lives, when they could have been enjoying a Summer camp in the US.


Let's not forget about those who have had flesh ground off by the runway, and those who are paralyzed, along with those suffering from a myriad of other injuries.

305 survived - 123 walked away. This wasn't a free ride for the majority aboard.

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07/07/2013 03:12:18 PM · #10
I understand, but they do have their lives, however badly injured they are, it goes without saying. Hopefully their medical costs are covered, it would be a tragedy if it wasn't.

I do wonder how many actually had their seatbelts on at the time of the landing.

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07/07/2013 03:18:47 PM · #11
Originally posted by Ozzie:

I do wonder how many actually had their seatbelts on at the time of the landing.

Presumably all of them. I've NEVER landed on a plane where the cabin staff didn't check all the seatbelts prior to landing.
07/07/2013 03:25:55 PM · #12
Originally posted by Cory:



305 survived - 123 walked away. This wasn't a free ride for the majority aboard.


A number of the passengers said a message came over the intercom after landing: "We have landed safely, please stay in your seats." Most of those who heard this left the plane when they saw it was on fire.
07/07/2013 03:33:59 PM · #13
Originally posted by Erastus:

Originally posted by Cory:



305 survived - 123 walked away. This wasn't a free ride for the majority aboard.


A number of the passengers said a message came over the intercom after landing: "We have landed safely, please stay in your seats." Most of those who heard this left the plane when they saw it was on fire.


If that's true, whoever is responsible should be charged with a few hundred counts of attempted murder.



Message edited by author 2013-07-07 15:45:40.
07/07/2013 04:36:28 PM · #14
Well, there seems to be video out now.

Impressive looking crash, pretty surprising given the survival rate.
07/07/2013 05:29:01 PM · #15
holy cr*p, that's horrible. :(

i was just there about 3 weeks ago and my friend who grew up in the bay area made a comment as we were about to touch down that on occasion there had been crashes from planes coming in too low there. damn.
07/07/2013 06:48:56 PM · #16
Originally posted by Cuttooth:

holy cr*p, that's horrible. :(

i was just there about 3 weeks ago and my friend who grew up in the bay area made a comment as we were about to touch down that on occasion there had been crashes from planes coming in too low there. damn.


The JAL flight back in 1968 was one of them. (we really haven't had many). but that JAL flight simply landed in the shallow water just off the runway. Nobody was hurt, and, as I recall it, the pilot was demoted to copilot after the investigation declared it was 'pilot error.'
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