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07/01/2013 10:27:44 AM · #26
Originally posted by Damon:

My thought on the topics of late have not been my favorite either, but as photographers we should be forced to reach outside our comfort zone and take images of subjects that we normally wouldn't explore otherwise, how are we going to grow.

If you want to take portraits and landscapes all the time then your probably on the wrong site to begin with, hence the name "challenge". I believe it has become a double meaning other than the obvious, its like doing the 10 page essay that you dread but has to be completed, and once done you look back at it and say WOW I wrote that. I think the same can hold true for photography.

Yeah the trolls running around and screwing up our scores and the topics failing to meet everyone's expectations SUCKS but, what I think sucks worse than that is all the BS of complainers, quitters, nay sayers, and fun suckers on this site. It takes the fun away and makes me so OMG whats he/she bitching about now!!!! We have to be diverse in the community otherwise were nothing more than a pool of amoeba with cameras taking pictures of the same thing!!

Ok Im done off to my coffee :)


Patrick, I agree but since participation has been on the decline some broader challenges topics might be helpful.
07/01/2013 10:33:37 AM · #27
Originally posted by Yandrosxx:



In my experience with DPC, this is over generous. I've never felt Langdon's presence on this site. All we are really asking for are some minor adjustments.


Never? Some friendly reminders:

New Uploader "We've just released a new and improved uploader for the Portfolio Manager based on feedback at GetSatisfaction. " - Langdon

Best of 2011 and More "The Best of 2011 Challenge is now open for submissions! As a quick reminder, the 3 ribbon winners for this challenge will be given "Best of 2011 DPChallenge" camera straps showing their respective placement in the challenge." -Langdon

Spam Prevention "I just wanted to make a quick announcement to explain a new feature that will let you guys help us fight the good fight and participate in the war against spam. On the bottom left of each post, you will see a link to "Report this post as spam". This will serve as a quicker method of purging spam from our forums. " - Langdon

Site Updates and Advanced Editing
As we welcome in the new year together, I'm happy to introduce some major site improvements that will go into effect tonight. First and foremost, we've spent some time recently discussing both the Advanced Editing and Expert Editing rule sets. We weren't completely happy with how Expert panned out, and have spent some time taking the things we do like from Expert and adding them to Advanced." - Langdon

There are many more examples, just take a look in the Administrative Announcements thread.

When one's frustration and anger take hold we forget the accomplishments or things that WERE done.

Now are we overdue on another announcement?

- Yes, I will agree with you on that but I will not agree that Langdon has never had a presence on this site.

Message edited by author 2013-07-01 10:38:51.
07/01/2013 10:38:15 AM · #28
Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:

Can't think of much that is more challenging than trying to take a unique photo of a subject that was huge a few years back. What can you possibly do to make it different and not the same old thing? Therein lies the challenge.


Exactly Joshua! Now I will shamefully admit that I rolled my eyes when it was first suggested but after thinking about this more - it really is a challenge not just to capture it effectively, but put a new and interesting spin on it.

Time is something that may work against me in trying this though - something said in one of the other forum threads inspired me think of a new and interesting way to do this so I do want to try.

Message edited by author 2013-07-01 10:42:32.
07/01/2013 10:40:18 AM · #29
Not all water drop images are the same.
07/01/2013 10:40:39 AM · #30
Sometimes the challenge IS the challenge. It's all is how we look at things! :)

(I've not been good at this in the past, but had a blast trying and made quite the mess! :p)
07/01/2013 10:50:38 AM · #31
May I remind people, here, that the challenge is NOT "Splashes", it's "Water Drops"... In other words, this classic definitely meets the challenge:

07/01/2013 10:56:20 AM · #32
Originally posted by Paul:

Not all water drop images are the same.


That is awesome but I can admit probably a little out of reach for most of us :)But it does reiterate that something can be done that's not your normal water drop shot.

07/01/2013 10:58:25 AM · #33
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

May I remind people, here, that the challenge is NOT "Splashes", it's "Water Drops"... In other words, this classic definitely meets the challenge:



Always loved this!
07/01/2013 10:58:36 AM · #34
or this gem

07/01/2013 11:25:59 AM · #35
The folks that chronically complain should open a new and far better site that has everything they want. Then the rest of us poor sheep that don't know any better can continue under the dillusion that being "Challenged" doesn't mean shotting whatever we want and photoshopping it to the point where it it ia just barely a photograph anymore.

That'll teach us.
07/01/2013 12:43:53 PM · #36
Originally posted by Mike:

interesting. so he doesn't read our responses, only the topics?

Since the responses often conflict with each other, I don't see where you'd want to leave the arbitration up to Langdon.

IMO the way it should work is for the person who originally posts the suggestion to read the responses, and adjust the original post with the suggestion into a final form, so that Langdon can just grab it and post.
07/01/2013 12:47:32 PM · #37
Originally posted by myqyl:

The folks that chronically complain should open a new and far better site that has everything they want. Then the rest of us poor sheep that don't know any better can continue under the dillusion that being "Challenged" doesn't mean shotting whatever we want and photoshopping it to the point where it it ia just barely a photograph anymore.

That'll teach us.


ROFL!! Oh, it's digressing again....*snicker*
07/01/2013 01:43:04 PM · #38
I agree that especially having two food related challenges in a row seems a little flawed. But I recall most if not all of the posters in this thread being extremely excited a week or so ago about the Cutout challenge.... So the challenges wax and wane "good" and "bad"... Just gotta roll with it.

As to the process of selecting the challenges... Has it ever been suggested or discussed that the suggestions submitted be voted on by we the participants, with the top two or three vote getters at each rollover would be the ones Langdon selects from? Then just keep everything accumulating votes until they float to the top or sink to the bottom. I'm not a coder, so not sure how difficult that would be to se up... But it would seem to be a good cooperation between we the people and management. If only paying members could vote, might also be a draw for more people to join.

Probably nothing original here, but thought I'd offer something...

-m
07/01/2013 02:06:59 PM · #39
Originally posted by mefnj:

... Has it ever been suggested or discussed that the suggestions submitted be voted on by we the participants, with the top two or three vote getters at each rollover would be the ones Langdon selects from?

I've considered something like that, but that allows too much time for people to prepare for an upcoming challenge.

Personally I think it's more of a problem that Langdon has been selecting from the more recent (like that week's) suggestions -- older suggestions would be more of a surprise, not something people have just been discussing in the forums, and possibly seem more inspiring. Only then we'd hear complaints about how people are posting suggestions and they "never" get used ...

I don't know what the ideal lag time from suggestion to posting would be, but it should probably be at least two weeks.
07/01/2013 02:24:13 PM · #40
Voting on challenge topics would defeat the purpose in my opinion. The element of surprise makes shooting for a challenge part of the challenge.
07/01/2013 02:43:11 PM · #41
I'd just like to point out that water drop photos are damned hard.

I think you all are just scared. Challenge yourself, try something you don't normally shoot.

I was all in support of Water Drops, and still am. So :P
07/01/2013 02:46:22 PM · #42
Originally posted by Damon:

I just think this is Langdon's way of telling Cory and MAK to hurry up with TPL-2 so the good topics can start again :)


Don't forget our super-coder, Epsi. :)
07/01/2013 04:41:20 PM · #43
I guess I just don't get the point of all the bitching & whining. The site is cheap to belong to, you get gallery space if you're a member, and some other spiffs like selected challenges, not to mention other things I can't think of right now.

You have access to a really well rounded community that's very happy to help and share, you get new topics to shoot for every couple of days, and truly the only limitations are your own ability to shoot, edit, and present a jewel within the size and rule parameters that make the challenges.

WTF???

Why on earth would you expect every challenge to be new and exciting? You may think that abandoned buildings are the coolest thing on earth.....others couldn't care less. That's the thing.......the bellyachers are truly just demonstrating their own selfishness. Are there other things we'd like? Sure, but don't you get tired of wasting all the energy griping instead of shooting?

Why do the topics have to be everything for everybody?

NEVER happen!

I know that part of the reason that I am the photographer I am today, not that I'm all that good, is that I *have* taken a chance and shot for topics that are outside of what I like and know best.

Would it be nice to have more size? You bet! But it's a whole lot more difficult to make a truly WOW shot at this size. I've found that by working within these parameters that when I shoot something and go really big for a friend, client, or show, the resultant images are much better because of having learned how to work within the parameters here.

So......do what you want, grumble and be negative if that works for you, but why not utilize the restrictions to make yourself a better photographer. Hate water drops? Fine! Show us all that you can transcend your hate, teach us all a lesson, and take the blue.

Don't like Expert editing? Shoot something so fabulous that it doesn't need the extra help......or take that PS course at the community college and quit squawking that you don't have the skills.

Really and truly......if you're not utilizing what's offered by this site in the way of knowledge, help, pitting yourself against your own weaknesses, then you're missing what this place really has to offer.
07/01/2013 04:52:54 PM · #44
Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by Damon:

I just think this is Langdon's way of telling Cory and MAK to hurry up with TPL-2 so the good topics can start again :)


Don't forget our super-coder, Epsi. :)


Yes forgot to include Epsi :( sorry about about that!!
07/01/2013 04:54:00 PM · #45
Originally posted by Damon:

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by Damon:

I just think this is Langdon's way of telling Cory and MAK to hurry up with TPL-2 so the good topics can start again :)


Don't forget our super-coder, Epsi. :)


Yes forgot to include Epsi :( sorry about about that!!


It's ok, he's quiet, and gets things done... Unlike MAK and myself. ;)
07/01/2013 05:03:59 PM · #46
He probably speaks in php and java anyhow so I would only understand half of what he was saying :)
07/01/2013 08:20:46 PM · #47
Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:

or this gem



Hey I was thinking the same thing, it's not all about the BIG SPLASH, a water drop is a water drop, I for one am not a water drop in the basin type shot, I'm more for the nature side!
07/01/2013 08:22:59 PM · #48
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Message edited by author 2013-07-01 20:48:41.
07/01/2013 08:48:27 PM · #49
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07/01/2013 09:42:04 PM · #50
Originally posted by Neat:

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ROFL... I read that before you changed it. You weren't terribly off base, but it's better to not antagonize.
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