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06/03/2013 02:39:57 PM · #26 |
Help - The title of this thread is: NEW TPL REGISTRATION & POLL FORM
the first link in this thread is:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SgHBIwzZ9mX1f63aCumo4OGD-5UGYa1UZ-qdYkzCKz8/viewform
Please use this form to communicate your preferred options for the new TPL session. Thank You
So, when I click on this link I get:
Um, how do I sign up using this form? I don't see any other forms listed in this thread, honest!
Alice
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06/03/2013 02:41:16 PM · #27 |
It will depend on the number of teams that commit to doing it. The last one had two divisions of 8 teams each so the season lasted seven weeks for most of us. If your team team finished first in your division you had one more week against the other top team for the championship.
Originally posted by mariahdc:
How long does the DPL last? |
Message edited by author 2013-06-03 14:42:44. |
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06/03/2013 02:48:13 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
We would create a new "thread" for each challenge. We also had a thread for scheduling and scoring, a thread to bitch about Garry behind his back, and for the last three or four rounds we made trash-talking threads, in which we included the opposing team of the week, so we could intimidate each other. |
We kept one long thread for the entire season. I think it was mainly because we were too lazy it is too tedious to keep creating new threads with multiple people.
We did enjoy the trash talk thread as well.
We didn't have Garry on our team so we had no need for that thread. If he was we would have created though.
Message edited by author 2013-06-03 14:48:59. |
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06/03/2013 03:08:33 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by Ja-9:
...discussing it with your teammates in a private thread... |
I was wondering how many teams used the DPC PM system as we did/do.
We would create a new "thread" for each challenge. We also had a thread for scheduling and scoring, a thread to bitch about Garry behind his back, and for the last three or four rounds we made trash-talking threads, in which we included the opposing team of the week, so we could intimidate each other.
Our threads always became quite hilarious. |
We had one "running" thread for the whole TPL league...1 - for final entries & scores (posted daily if possible), 1 - final score and placement. And the occasional pre-conceived intimation trash talking thread (pfffffttt but we won anyway...lol). And we have a "private FB page" (pfffttt). although FB is a good way to post and communicate without blowing up your mailbox. I have found that viewing your picture over there isn't the same quality as it is here on DPC...so after a bit of time we just used the DPC threads...
7 Weeks Maria
One other thing- several of us would post our pictures in our Workshop and before we could show it to our teammates "SOMEONE" would troll through the recent uploads and view our pictures....totally NOT COOL!!! |
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06/03/2013 03:11:10 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
Help - The title of this thread is: NEW TPL REGISTRATION & POLL FORM
the first link in this thread is:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SgHBIwzZ9mX1f63aCumo4OGD-5UGYa1UZ-qdYkzCKz8/viewform
Please use this form to communicate your preferred options for the new TPL session. Thank You
So, when I click on this link I get:
Um, how do I sign up using this form? I don't see any other forms listed in this thread, honest!
Alice
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Alice just enter you user name and pick a favorite photo from the 7 weekly thread that is your favorite...as to which voting system...throw a dart...I have no idea...it's crazy confusing (ya...I'm pretty dumb blonde) |
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06/03/2013 03:11:49 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Ja-9:
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7 Weeks Maria
One other thing- several of us would post our pictures in our Workshop and before we could show it to our teammates "SOMEONE" would troll through the recent uploads and view our pictures....totally NOT COOL!!! |
Thanks... I'm new to much of the forum community. How can someone look through a Workshop portfolio, set to private? |
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06/03/2013 03:18:34 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by MarkB:
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We kept one long thread for the entire season. I think it was mainly because we were too lazy it is too tedious to keep creating new threads with multiple people.
We did enjoy the trash talk thread as well.
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We also kept one long thread - well, two, if you consider the initial one where we were introducing ourselves and practicing by asking for a bit of image feedback before the team play officially started and coming up with a team name and logo, etc. Once the first team play challenge was announced, we started a new thread and kept it going the entire time.
We never had a chance to participate in the trash talk thread - one of the perks for teams that are never at the top, I guess. I would not have enjoyed that.
And I agree with  Ja-9 that the participation bonus was important. We had one member who only participated in the first challenge so we only got it once, but the rest of us all made a serious effort to get at least one entry in each week, even when we were less than satisfied with what we had. And it was surprising how often those "lesser" entries contributed in a positive way to the team effort.
Oh, and no one has mentioned that only the top four of six scores actually count in the end, so that gave a little breathing room, too :) |
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06/03/2013 03:32:33 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by nam:
We never had a chance to participate in the trash talk thread - one of the perks for teams that are never at the top, I guess. I would not have enjoyed that. |
Trash talk is probably giving the wrong impression, there was never anything mean spirited. In fact looking back at the thread, it is was just some friendly banter between teams along with a little self deprecating humor. |
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06/03/2013 04:01:02 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by MarkB:
Originally posted by nam:
We never had a chance to participate in the trash talk thread - one of the perks for teams that are never at the top, I guess. I would not have enjoyed that. |
Trash talk is probably giving the wrong impression, there was never anything mean spirited. In fact looking back at the thread, it is was just some friendly banter between teams along with a little self deprecating humor. |
Thanks for clarifying :) Friendly banter I enjoy. Crude and rude, not so much. That's just me, though :) |
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06/03/2013 07:20:19 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by nam:
Originally posted by MarkB:
Originally posted by nam:
We never had a chance to participate in the trash talk thread - one of the perks for teams that are never at the top, I guess. I would not have enjoyed that. |
Trash talk is probably giving the wrong impression, there was never anything mean spirited. In fact looking back at the thread, it is was just some friendly banter between teams along with a little self deprecating humor. |
Thanks for clarifying :) Friendly banter I enjoy. Crude and rude, not so much. That's just me, though :) |
trust me I don't do rude/crude...it was all in good fun'n |
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06/03/2013 07:36:57 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by mariahdc:
Originally posted by Ja-9:
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7 Weeks Maria
One other thing- several of us would post our pictures in our Workshop and before we could show it to our teammates "SOMEONE" would troll through the recent uploads and view our pictures....totally NOT COOL!!! |
Thanks... I'm new to much of the forum community. How can someone look through a Workshop portfolio, set to private? |
That's the way it's supposed to be...private. But, there are ways to work around the system unfortunately...some people will always find ways to "get ahead/flat out cheat"... |
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06/03/2013 08:17:50 PM · #37 |
I'm so excited that there's another TPL in the works!
I had so much fun last time getting to know folks and learning from them.
Regarding the scoring system...
Since the "5% rule" was designed to make percentage results from varying numbers of entries in challenges more fair, (for instance an entry that scored 87% in a challenge with 200 entries should win over an entry that scored 87% in a challenge with only 45 entries), I like the idea that if two people whose scores are being pitted against each other are from the same challenge, then there is no reason for the 5% rule... since they were both competing on the same, equal ground.
So... I like option #2 since it's the only one that allows for no tie if one entry scores higher than the other in the same challenge.
I am confused though, about whether the percentages for ties varies with the number of entries in differing challenges. For instance, if there are two challenges with approximately the same number of entries, would that have a 0% variance for a tie, while two challenges with 50% more entries in one than the other would have 3% variance for a tie... and then if there were two challenges with double the amount in one than the other, a 5% variance would be given to make a tie? (or similar? I'm simplifying, of course.)
Regarding, the favorite image vote. I had three contenders, two of them from the same person (not on my team). Good idea!
Message edited by author 2013-06-03 20:21:15. |
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06/03/2013 08:37:47 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Ja-9:
Originally posted by mariahdc:
Originally posted by Ja-9:
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One other thing- several of us would post our pictures in our Workshop and before we could show it to our teammates "SOMEONE" would troll through the recent uploads and view our pictures....totally NOT COOL!!! |
Thanks... I'm new to much of the forum community. How can someone look through a Workshop portfolio, set to private? |
That's the way it's supposed to be...private. But, there are ways to work around the system unfortunately...some people will always find ways to "get ahead/flat out cheat"... |
Whoa - I didn't know this could happen. Also, how were you able to tell? |
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06/03/2013 08:44:38 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by nam:
Originally posted by Ja-9:
Originally posted by mariahdc:
Originally posted by Ja-9:
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One other thing- several of us would post our pictures in our Workshop and before we could show it to our teammates "SOMEONE" would troll through the recent uploads and view our pictures....totally NOT COOL!!! |
Thanks... I'm new to much of the forum community. How can someone look through a Workshop portfolio, set to private? |
That's the way it's supposed to be...private. But, there are ways to work around the system unfortunately...some people will always find ways to "get ahead/flat out cheat"... |
Whoa - I didn't know this could happen. Also, how were you able to tell? |
the way how I have been able to tell is when I load an image into the workshop and have SHOWN NO ONE that image and I see my view(s) count number higher than 0...when I view one of my images...the count stays the same. |
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06/03/2013 09:36:13 PM · #40 |
As this was explained to me a long time ago...
Recent Downloads give the number assigned to the downloaded image.
When there is a break in the numbering, it might mean an image is sent to a Workshop.
If one is industrious, has more than ample time, and/or feels the need to snoop,
it would be easy to call up the missing numbers to see what images result.
The dialog contained with the image might then tell the snooper what he/she wants to know.
I have the feeling, that when this site was designed, it never occurred to those
doing the setting up, that a friendly place like this would have such competitive
snoopers who would find it necessary to 'unlock' this mildly locked door. |
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06/03/2013 09:52:04 PM · #41 |
Oh! I understand the three scoring systems now!
I think I was overwhelmed by the pretty pictures and couldn't focus on the explanations. :D
I love #2. It allows for the "tie variance" to vary according to the differing number of entries in each two-person combat's particular number of entries.
Well done!
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06/03/2013 10:13:39 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by LydiaToo:
I'm so excited that there's another TPL in the works!
I had so much fun last time getting to know folks and learning from them.
Regarding the scoring system...
Since the "5% rule" was designed to make percentage results from varying numbers of entries in challenges more fair, (for instance an entry that scored 87% in a challenge with 200 entries should win over an entry that scored 87% in a challenge with only 45 entries), I like the idea that if two people whose scores are being pitted against each other are from the same challenge, then there is no reason for the 5% rule... since they were both competing on the same, equal ground.
So... I like option #2 since it's the only one that allows for no tie if one entry scores higher than the other in the same challenge.
I am confused though, about whether the percentages for ties varies with the number of entries in differing challenges. For instance, if there are two challenges with approximately the same number of entries, would that have a 0% variance for a tie, while two challenges with 50% more entries in one than the other would have 3% variance for a tie... and then if there were two challenges with double the amount in one than the other, a 5% variance would be given to make a tie? (or similar? I'm simplifying, of course.)
Regarding, the favorite image vote. I had three contenders, two of them from the same person (not on my team). Good idea! |
i believe option two is the one i suggested during the first TPL. if so, what it does it determines the the difference in the # of entries in the two challenges and determines the variance based on that difference, so the greater the disparity in entries the higher the variance percentage. it actually determines the true variance the difference makes, not a predetermined value or a tier and thus is actually the most fair way to equate two challenges with a differing number of entries.
a very bright mathematician cued me into the formula. i'm not sure why this question is even posed as this method is clearly the option that should be used going forward as it eliminates any possibilities of problem in the future. you simply cannot argue against the math. i only hope that it isn't so confusing as to what the approach is and the voters opt for one that seems more tangible. |
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06/03/2013 11:02:30 PM · #43 |
I voted for 3. Not because it is better, I just like the number 3.
If you would have had 9, I would have voted for that one. I have a cat named 9.
Which is to say... The descriptions still seem complicated. Which is really Ok, because I just like the camaraderie of the teams. So I don't really care a whole lot about the scoring. Maybe if my scores really meant anything I'd feel different. With my current averages, please feel free to do it however you want. I'm just glad you are doing it at all.
Edited because my spelling isn't any better than my photography...
Message edited by author 2013-06-03 23:06:07. |
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06/03/2013 11:21:04 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by LydiaToo:
I'm so excited that there's another TPL in the works!
I had so much fun last time getting to know folks and learning from them.
Regarding the scoring system...
Since the "5% rule" was designed to make percentage results from varying numbers of entries in challenges more fair, (for instance an entry that scored 87% in a challenge with 200 entries should win over an entry that scored 87% in a challenge with only 45 entries), I like the idea that if two people whose scores are being pitted against each other are from the same challenge, then there is no reason for the 5% rule... since they were both competing on the same, equal ground.
So... I like option #2 since it's the only one that allows for no tie if one entry scores higher than the other in the same challenge.
I am confused though, about whether the percentages for ties varies with the number of entries in differing challenges. For instance, if there are two challenges with approximately the same number of entries, would that have a 0% variance for a tie, while two challenges with 50% more entries in one than the other would have 3% variance for a tie... and then if there were two challenges with double the amount in one than the other, a 5% variance would be given to make a tie? (or similar? I'm simplifying, of course.)
Regarding, the favorite image vote. I had three contenders, two of them from the same person (not on my team). Good idea! |
i believe option two is the one i suggested during the first TPL. if so, what it does it determines the the difference in the # of entries in the two challenges and determines the variance based on that difference, so the greater the disparity in entries the higher the variance percentage. it actually determines the true variance the difference makes, not a predetermined value or a tier and thus is actually the most fair way to equate two challenges with a differing number of entries.
a very bright mathematician cued me into the formula. i'm not sure why this question is even posed as this method is clearly the option that should be used going forward as it eliminates any possibilities of problem in the future. you simply cannot argue against the math. i only hope that it isn't so confusing as to what the approach is and the voters opt for one that seems more tangible. |
Mike is correct, this is a corrected version of his suggestion. (Me and that same brilliant mathematician had a subsequent conversation that led to a small mod)..
I agree as well, that #2 is the preferable system - as it really balances the difference as it should be balanced, based upon the difference in number of entries between challenges, and it doesn't bother with the compensation if the two images are from the same challenge, preventing improper tie situations.
So, if you don't have a clue which way to vote - trust me and just vote #2. |
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06/03/2013 11:25:19 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by ambaker:
I voted for 3. Not because it is better, I just like the number 3.
If you would have had 9, I would have voted for that one. I have a cat named 9.... |
You name your cats numbers, Alex?
Now... that's just... weird.
*grin*
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06/03/2013 11:27:18 PM · #46 |
| Is there a form I can fill out to disassociate myself with the last TPL? Just in case I ever need a job, or somehow end up in politics, I wouldn't want any of my teammates' names coming up. |
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06/03/2013 11:31:59 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by Cory:
#2 is the preferable system - as it really balances the difference as it should be balanced, based upon the difference in number of entries between challenges, and it doesn't bother with the compensation if the two images are from the same challenge, preventing improper tie situations.
So, if you don't have a clue which way to vote - trust me and just vote #2. |
Then... why are you giving us options?
If you like it best...and you're the mathematician... then I'm in!
Oh wait... I was in already! :D
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06/03/2013 11:33:32 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by LydiaToo:
Originally posted by Cory:
#2 is the preferable system - as it really balances the difference as it should be balanced, based upon the difference in number of entries between challenges, and it doesn't bother with the compensation if the two images are from the same challenge, preventing improper tie situations.
So, if you don't have a clue which way to vote - trust me and just vote #2. |
Then... why are you giving us options?
If you like it best...and you're the mathematician... then I'm in!
Oh wait... I was in already! :D |
It was decided that you needed options, and should have a vote. |
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06/03/2013 11:39:07 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by Cory:
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It was decided that you needed options, and should have a vote. |
One thing I learned a long time ago - if you can't stand the answer, don't ask the question :) |
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06/04/2013 12:34:45 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by LydiaToo:
I'm so excited that there's another TPL in the works!
I had so much fun last time getting to know folks and learning from them.
Regarding the scoring system...
Since the "5% rule" was designed to make percentage results from varying numbers of entries in challenges more fair, (for instance an entry that scored 87% in a challenge with 200 entries should win over an entry that scored 87% in a challenge with only 45 entries), I like the idea that if two people whose scores are being pitted against each other are from the same challenge, then there is no reason for the 5% rule... since they were both competing on the same, equal ground.
So... I like option #2 since it's the only one that allows for no tie if one entry scores higher than the other in the same challenge.
I am confused though, about whether the percentages for ties varies with the number of entries in differing challenges. For instance, if there are two challenges with approximately the same number of entries, would that have a 0% variance for a tie, while two challenges with 50% more entries in one than the other would have 3% variance for a tie... and then if there were two challenges with double the amount in one than the other, a 5% variance would be given to make a tie? (or similar? I'm simplifying, of course.)
Regarding, the favorite image vote. I had three contenders, two of them from the same person (not on my team). Good idea! |
i believe option two is the one i suggested during the first TPL. if so, what it does it determines the the difference in the # of entries in the two challenges and determines the variance based on that difference, so the greater the disparity in entries the higher the variance percentage. it actually determines the true variance the difference makes, not a predetermined value or a tier and thus is actually the most fair way to equate two challenges with a differing number of entries.
a very bright mathematician cued me into the formula. i'm not sure why this question is even posed as this method is clearly the option that should be used going forward as it eliminates any possibilities of problem in the future. you simply cannot argue against the math. i only hope that it isn't so confusing as to what the approach is and the voters opt for one that seems more tangible. |
Mike is correct, this is a corrected version of his suggestion. (Me and that same brilliant mathematician had a subsequent conversation that led to a small mod)..
I agree as well, that #2 is the preferable system - as it really balances the difference as it should be balanced, based upon the difference in number of entries between challenges, and it doesn't bother with the compensation if the two images are from the same challenge, preventing improper tie situations.
So, if you don't have a clue which way to vote - trust me and just vote #2. |
Can I change my vote??? I can change my vote on the pictures...can I on this too???? |
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