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01/21/2003 06:42:46 PM · #1
We hope to get away from petty disqualifications with our new revision of the border rule, which states: "Your submission may include a border, but the border may not contain any text, clip art, photographs, or other artwork."

As with all rule changes, no challenges that are currently being voted on or have already been voted on are affected by the rules change. To be more specific, your submissions to the Square challenge may use the new border rule. Since Windows & Doors is no edit restrictions already, it's a moot point.

We apologize for any confusion this whole issue has caused. Let's get back to the photography! :)

Drew
01/21/2003 06:43:32 PM · #2
Excellent choice for a new rule :)
01/21/2003 06:46:11 PM · #3
bravo. onward.
01/21/2003 06:49:14 PM · #4
Can I put a drop shadow on my border?
01/21/2003 06:56:04 PM · #5
To further clarify, the "Got Milk" and "Road Signs Revisited" challenges are still governed by the rule that was in effect at the time of submission (no more than 2, concentric, nested, solid-colored borders).

-Terry
01/21/2003 06:56:36 PM · #6
Originally posted by kiwiness:

Can I put a drop shadow on my border?


Yes.

-Terry
01/21/2003 06:58:19 PM · #7
Wonderful!
01/21/2003 07:31:33 PM · #8
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Originally posted by kiwiness:

Can I put a drop shadow on my border?


Yes.

-Terry

How? DPC rules regarding selections and editing in general are not being eliminated.
I make borders in Photoshop for almost all my photos, and I don't think any feathering or gradients are practical; MIGHT be able to create something with the blur tool...
01/21/2003 08:04:40 PM · #9
Despite I currently don't like borders very much, I think it's a good change.
Maybe someday I'll even try out all this border stuff, too. :-)
01/21/2003 08:13:41 PM · #10
Originally posted by stephan:

Despite I currently don't like borders very much, I think it's a good change.
Maybe someday I'll even try out all this border stuff, too. :-)

Careful, it can become as addictive as photography...and expensive as it represents a move back towards prints...
01/22/2003 10:15:28 AM · #11
Perfect!
01/22/2003 11:31:45 AM · #12
So anything goes with borders...
01/22/2003 11:54:58 AM · #13
Originally posted by marbo:

So anything goes with borders...


Well, there's no clipart, no other photographs, no text, copyright notices, or logos, so I won't say anything goes. This wording change is primarily to eliminate the nitpicky DQ's for beveling, multi-color and such. Just be sure to reread the rule above before submitting. Also keep in mind overly complex borders probably won't score well with the voters here.

-Terry
01/22/2003 11:57:22 AM · #14
What's with the borders? Why was it allowed in the first place? They are distracting, and totally pointless. (IMHO, of course) The photo should just stand on its own. I'm considering distracting 1 from my rating on photos with borders...
01/22/2003 12:05:16 PM · #15
Yes i also think borders should be banned, but have used them myself.
I won`t mark a photo down becuase of a border.
I wonder if there has ever been a vote on borders and what the result would be.

Message edited by author 2003-01-22 12:20:07.
01/22/2003 12:17:57 PM · #16
Originally posted by jonr:

What's with the borders? Why was it allowed in the first place? They are distracting, and totally pointless. (IMHO, of course) The photo should just stand on its own. I'm considering distracting 1 from my rating on photos with borders...


I'm glad everyone is open minded :)

01/22/2003 12:28:21 PM · #17
Originally posted by jonr:

What's with the borders? Why was it allowed in the first place? They are distracting, and totally pointless. (IMHO, of course) The photo should just stand on its own. I'm considering distracting 1 from my rating on photos with borders...


A border, if done well, can enhance a photograph's impact by subtly helping focus the viewer's attention in the right place. This is why art galleries and museums hang much of their work in frames rather than just sticking it right up on the wall. A poorly chosen frame, on the other hand, may well detract from a work of art. Frames were allowed because a large number of users wanted to be able to present their work that way. The overall response to allowing borders has been quite positive.

-Terry
01/22/2003 12:36:55 PM · #18
What can I say.... using borders is a double-edge sword. Some do a great job of it others.... DON'T!. :o) It can enhance or lower your score. I guess it's a bit like photography, you hope that by doing lots of it you'll get better at it. :o)
01/22/2003 12:47:04 PM · #19
That`s just the problem, people who are great at creating borders have an advantage. I think it should just be about photography.
01/22/2003 12:48:15 PM · #20
That has been my argument all the time marbo, I agree with you.
01/22/2003 01:00:29 PM · #21
Judging by the voting patterns of this site, I think that simple borders will fare better than extravagent ones, and simple borders are very easy to create. It's worth noting that 4 of the 6 ribbon-winners this week had no border.

Perhaps a tutorial on basic borders is in order.

-Terry
01/22/2003 01:05:38 PM · #22
Originally posted by marbo:

That`s just the problem, people who are great at creating borders have an advantage. I think it should just be about photography.


I'm sort of on the fence in that I like nicely done borders and dislike those badly done.

With regards to giving certain people an advantage, doesn't digital photography naturally allow this with the use of Photoshop and the like? I'm not suggesting PS can change a poor picture into a fantastic one, but I think it does help. I'm something of a newbie, but it seems certainly from the howtos in the tutorial section that editing is quite prevalent.

As point of reference, this comes from someone good at Photoshop but bad at photography. :-)
01/22/2003 02:38:08 PM · #23
Originally posted by marbo:

That`s just the problem, people who are great at creating borders have an advantage. I think it should just be about photography.


I think that all pictures benefit from a 4-5 pixel black border. Other than that, I believe borders are a waste.

Jsut my two cents
01/22/2003 03:55:45 PM · #24
When you take a nice photo and you want to display it, will you just print it out, borderless/frameless? We're not just taking photos here, we're displaying our work. It's in the interest of all potographers to learn how to border their photo (or whether you want to add one at all), as eventually you're going to have to display your work somehow. I just think it is appropriate to allow borders in competitons like this, as this is a place of learning. If someone decides to create a horrible border for their beautiful pic, you can adjust your voting accordingly, but dont forget to comment on why you might have done that, ie: if the border is totally wrong, the photographer should get the courtesy of knowing, and he/she will learn from this. But in the end, I beleive that the right border for the right image can be very usefull in displaying your photo, where sometimes no border at all can leave you with a ratherdull image, when it is against the medium grey of this website.
01/23/2003 01:19:58 AM · #25
I like borders, and am very glad we've been allowed to use them (and now I can use drop shadows, yay!)... creating a good looking border is just another skill to learn, like taking a good photograph. I dont think it's a big deal at all.
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