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05/06/2013 02:50:44 PM · #1
grab those off-the-shelf boxes while you can, cuz they are going away...

a summary.
05/06/2013 02:56:17 PM · #2
The problem with everything being cloud-based is that sometimes we want to work (or have to work) in a location without an internet connection. And God forbid anyone have a slow connection.

I think this is a huge mistake on Adobe's part to force folks to use cloud services in order to continue with their products.
05/06/2013 03:01:24 PM · #3
Man that sux....So you will have to pay a monthly fee to be able to use adobe. That just priced me out of photoshop. I'm glad I have CS-5
05/06/2013 03:05:22 PM · #4
I wonder how this affects a stand alone product like Acrobat. We have lots of desktop PCs with Acrobat Pro installed.

And are the Elements products affected?
05/06/2013 03:10:25 PM · #5
Wow, that sounds like a horrible idea.

Adobe has complete dominance of this market. If ever there was a time for a competitor to get a foothold, now would be the time.
05/06/2013 03:14:23 PM · #6
Originally posted by bhuge:

Wow, that sounds like a horrible idea.

Adobe has complete dominance of this market. If ever there was a time for a competitor to get a foothold, now would be the time.


I bet its coming
05/06/2013 03:15:13 PM · #7
"Adobe will allow everybody who currently owns a license to CS3 and up to subscribe to Creative Cloud for $29.95 per month for limited time."
$360 a year for what appears to be an introductory offer, is also a deal breaker.
05/06/2013 03:17:32 PM · #8
Originally posted by sfalice:

"Adobe will allow everybody who currently owns a license to CS3 and up to subscribe to Creative Cloud for $29.95 per month for limited time."
$360 a year for what appears to be an introductory offer, is also a deal breaker.


And the $600 a year eventual retail price is just fantastically stupid.

I'm soooo glad that CS2 (which they botched up and released for free this year) will actually do everything I need if I set Topaz and Nik on top of it, and use Capture One Pro for my RAW conversion work.
05/06/2013 03:22:09 PM · #9
I have the entire package VIA cloud for $19.99 (student discount). Makes more sense for me to do that than pay for all the individual software or expensive suites... As for the disconnected thing, you download it fully to your system and it installs as it would from the disk so the sky is not falling completely… The software reaches to the server and "authorizes" every so often, but perhaps someone else can chime in with the "just how often." I have been using it without internet (to be able to authorize) at times, but not for a length of time yet. No issues, yet.
05/06/2013 03:22:51 PM · #10
Wow, sometimes you wonder if anyone in a company is actually thinking.

If you have Adobe stock, sell it now before it's worthless!
05/06/2013 03:26:03 PM · #11
Originally posted by sfalice:

"Adobe will allow everybody who currently owns a license to CS3 and up to subscribe to Creative Cloud for $29.95 per month for limited time."
$360 a year for what appears to be an introductory offer, is also a deal breaker.


Yeah I dont like the idea of paying a monthly fee for a software I could buy. I like to be able to buy software and then use it til I decide it is too outdated or needs an upgrade.
05/06/2013 03:36:10 PM · #12
not surprising, i'm sure piracy is playing a big part in this. the software we use in the office is a cloud subscription. it works really well when offline too. the software deactivate after 30days of not being able to connect to the license server.
05/06/2013 03:41:42 PM · #13
Originally posted by Mike:

not surprising, i'm sure piracy is playing a big part in this. the software we use in the office is a cloud subscription. it works really well when offline too. the software deactivate after 30days of not being able to connect to the license server.

So you'd better not be a geologist doing a two month summer program out of a bush camp.
05/06/2013 03:47:13 PM · #14
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by Mike:

not surprising, i'm sure piracy is playing a big part in this. the software we use in the office is a cloud subscription. it works really well when offline too. the software deactivate after 30days of not being able to connect to the license server.

So you'd better not be a geologist doing a two month summer program out of a bush camp.


Or live on your sailboat with sporadic and very poor access every now and then. Many folks like this use a thumb drive to go to libraries, etc., to upload stuff. We did. Now you'd have to haul your computer with you at least once a month.
05/06/2013 03:49:09 PM · #15
i'm sure they have a solution for that with some sort of license check out option.

Message edited by author 2013-05-06 15:50:06.
05/06/2013 04:19:33 PM · #16
I was just thinking about this kind of thing the other day, and how much I hope it wouldn't come to fruition. I really hope they re-think this. This is downright stupid.
05/06/2013 04:19:47 PM · #17
For someone like me who only upgrades software when I buy a new computer, even at $29.95/month, my cost would triple. If I were a working pro who used it every day, it *might* be worth it. But as a weekend photographer who doesn't make much money from photography, $29.95/month is just too damn expensive.

05/06/2013 04:31:40 PM · #18
I remember taking a survey on this. In the survey I specifically mentioned I would not pay a yearly subscription to use their product. I am like Ann I only upgrade every few years. I think a huge part of their customers are just average joes not in business and will no longer be able to afford their product or justify the expense.

So will this also effect photoshop elements? I've considered upgrading to the Creative suite but haven't been able to justify it. It will make me mad if it is for elements too. Most people owning elements are not in business and won't want to spend money on a subscription.

And which versions of CS will this effect? I've got a neighbor who is a software developer for Adobe and said he could get me a discounted copy of CS if I decided to upgrade. If I do I want to make sure I get a older version that won't be effected.
05/06/2013 04:34:02 PM · #19
I'm just a bit confused. I bought Photoshop CS4 in Feb of 2009 (299 upgrade from elements) and since then I've upgraded to Photoshop CS5 for 199 and to Photoshop CS6 for 199. In the same time, I've gone from Lightroom 2 ($99) to Lightroom 3 (also $99) to Lightroom 4 ($79). This is an average of about $250 per year for both products.

Now, if I'm reading it all correctly, I'll have to pay $30 per month ($360/year) for the first year and $50 per month ($600/year) after that to use these two applications.

The Lightroom 5 Beta was just released. Does this mean that they'll be releasing a standalone installation of Lightroom 5 (presumable for a $79 or $99 upgrade price)? Could I have the standalone installation of Lightroom 5 ($99) and a cloud pricing based install of Photoshop CC for $19.99/month, which means about $319 for the year, which is still more than I have been paying, but would ensure that I have the most updated versions?
05/06/2013 04:34:13 PM · #20
I'll be using my CS6 for a while to come yet, but I guess when that gets too old, I'll be looking at alternatives.

Good bye, Adobe - hello......... Corel?

How stupid of Adobe.
05/06/2013 04:37:21 PM · #21
Originally posted by alanfreed:

I was just thinking about this kind of thing the other day, and how much I hope it wouldn't come to fruition. I really hope they re-think this. This is downright stupid.


The stock market agrees with you. The NASDAQ closed up slightly today. Adobe's stock price went down.
05/06/2013 04:45:55 PM · #22
Here is Adobe's pricing plan page.

Does this nonsense include Adobe Acrobat Pro, also?
05/06/2013 04:50:07 PM · #23
As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on this move, but I really don't like it. I did recently choose to move to subscription for MS Office, because we have several machines that require Office, and the subscription lets me load it onto as many as five machines. Now, IFCreative Cloud allows me to run it on whatever machine I choose, that's a potential advantage. And IF it allows me to subscribe to apps I need only occasionally on a single-month basis, it's a potential advantage. What I refuse to get stuck with is a subscription that's as expensive (or more so) than upgrading an equivalent perpetual license every version.
Part of Adobe's justification for this makes no sense to me. They claim that it eliminates separate development paths for Creative Cloud and Creative Suite. Bullcrap. If they had just treated perpetual-license customers the same as subscribers and provided "hot updates" at the same time as Creative Cloud versions were updated, they would have no dual development process. It's an excuse to push their customer base toward subscription.
05/06/2013 05:24:55 PM · #24
maybe adobe is realizing that they are never going to be able to improve its capabilities to justify getting users to fork over $700+ at every release.

cs2 is still viable for many and its free. CS7 is coming out and how many are still perfectly happy with cs4 or 5?

05/06/2013 05:26:41 PM · #25
then again at $14.99 for students...

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