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01/20/2003 04:22:10 AM · #1
It's really tough voting on all these milk photos. I was hoping that more people would think "outside the box" on this one. There are some good ones, but most of them seem to be, well, boring milk.

I think I'll give a 10 to any photo that does NOT have milk, a milk product, or a milk cow in it.

01/20/2003 09:26:11 AM · #2
WOW WOW WOW
I might get a 10 then yeappy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lionel
01/20/2003 09:52:26 AM · #3
I really wish I had had the time to set up the shot I wanted to take. Dang. One weekend is just not enough for some of these challenges.

ps -- my shot idea had no milk, but a milk product. I'd be interested to know which shots you prefer that do not have "milk, a milk product, or a milk cow" in them. There are a lot of ways to be "outside the box" without being "outside the topic," IMHO.

pps -- too....many.....splash.....shots.....


*edited a b/c I didn't want my glaringly obvious grammatical error to show. :)

Message edited by author 2003-01-20 09:53:31.
01/20/2003 09:57:04 AM · #4
I was really expecting to see at least a few gratuitous breast shots in this challenge. Jacko & I are undoubtedly disappointed :)
01/20/2003 09:58:18 AM · #5
true there is many ways .. but the more outside the box you are the more risky it is to get comments 'I do not see the challenge'.

The challenge is a box with no border, you do not know when you cross them, they are different for everybody .. but the more you are from the center of the box with the challenge explicitly visible, the more risky it is.

I am not saying that a challenge explicitly met is not a good photo, and you can still be creative with a bottle of milk!

My landscape entry was risky ... I guess it was on the border of the box, even a little ouside .. I was outside the box for roughly 15 people, and 'on the border slightly inside' for 5.

01/20/2003 10:21:23 AM · #6
Yup! ;)

Originally posted by alansfreed:

I was really expecting to see at least a few gratuitous breast shots in this challenge. Jacko & I are undoubtedly disappointed :)

01/20/2003 10:49:16 AM · #7
People tell us to be creative go outside the box, and then we get comment like "I don't get it"! What gives?
01/20/2003 10:56:20 AM · #8
I think a lactating breast would have done very well indeed ;)

I took a glance at a couple of the photos, and there are at least a few standouts... Some else mentioned that all the shots are of boring milk... well, milk is the subject. Like this weeks sign challenge, the real task is to take an ordinary subject and make it look extraordinary.

Brian
01/20/2003 11:21:26 AM · #9
Originally posted by Antithesis:

It's really tough voting on all these milk photos. I was hoping that more people would think "outside the box" on this one. There are some good ones, but most of them seem to be, well, boring milk.

I think I'll give a 10 to any photo that does NOT have milk, a milk product, or a milk cow in it.



I agree. I'm very surprised at the photos we submited this week. I think they are by far, the more average that we've submited in a long time. I predict splashes of milk wining every place...

LM
01/20/2003 11:37:12 AM · #10
Originally posted by Sonifo:

People tell us to be creative go outside the box, and then we get comment like "I don't get it"! What gives?


This goes to my point in another thread: there are ALWAYS going to be those "don't get it" people. I, for one, much much much prefer a well-shot photo that you might have to think about for a few seconds to a photo that is "eh" but EXACTLY WHAT THEY THINK THE VOTERS ARE LOOKING FOR.

I really don't think it's any coincidence that the average score per commenter is the highest of the three "averages" per picture. Most of the time, if people take the time to really look at a photo for a few seconds and THINK ABOUT IT, the reasoning will become clear.

*shrug* Too many speed voters, I think. I dunno...
01/20/2003 11:42:51 AM · #11
Originally posted by lmhr:

I predict splashes of milk wining every place...


In the last couple of weeks, two "splash" pictures have won 1st place. Now people are gunning for the blue ribbon with the thought in mind that splashes are always going to work. The same thing happened with Setz's "Libery and Justice" pic.

IMO, the reason that the splash picture(s) did so well is that a) they were somewhat original and b) they were very well-executed. Mediocre copies of winning photos are definitely not going to have the same impact as their predecessors.

I would MUCH MUCH MUCH rather see unique ideas implemented... But I guess that's just me.

Rob
01/20/2003 11:50:36 AM · #12
i'm guessing everyone in this thread besides me and lionel did not submit for this weeks challenge, because no one who did would be talking trash like this
01/20/2003 12:07:59 PM · #13
My shot (which isn't hard to guess given the comments I posted last week about being vegan, probably) isn't exactly a creative masterpiece, but I'm happy with it. It took about 6 or 7 attempts to get the effect I was looking for, and although the final shot didn't quite get there, it was satisfying. It's rating pretty well, just below the scores for my two most recent shots.

But that's just the nature of a challenge like this. The theme is a "thing", not an emotion or a concept. Abstract challenge topics give people a lot more room to play around and get meaning into their photos. A challenge topic that says "photograph this thing, or things related to it" doesn't do that. You're just going to get a lot of setup, closeup shots with varying levels of technical prowess. It's a facet of photography that's worth exploring, but it's not going to inspire many people.

01/20/2003 12:46:17 PM · #14
Originally posted by achiral:

i'm guessing everyone in this thread besides me and lionel did not submit for this weeks challenge, because no one who did would be talking trash like this


I didn't submit this week. (Haven't started voting yet either, so I haven't seen the pictures.) All I could come up with, were splashes and ideas that I did not have the resources to pull off. So rather than do "me too", I decided to take the week off. Splashes may or may not do well this week. However as for the way I tend to vote, about the 85th time I've seen something the score tends to drop way down; unless the person has figured out ways to keep it fresh and new.

-alex
01/20/2003 01:50:46 PM · #15
I think the dairy industry would generally be proud of a lot of the shots in this weeks challenge. I am certainly not marking anyone down because they actually (HORRORS!!) used milk or a dairy product in a Got Milk? challenge. What the heck are you guys looking for anyway?!?

01/20/2003 01:52:54 PM · #16
Originally posted by achiral:

i'm guessing everyone in this thread besides me and lionel did not submit for this weeks challenge, because no one who did would be talking trash like this


who's talking trash? and how do you know what Lionel submitted anyway?
01/20/2003 02:03:04 PM · #17
City boy! What do I know! If you read this, forget it! I'm a city boy, so I don't know nuthin about cows!

Message edited by author 2003-01-20 16:30:00.
01/22/2003 02:55:56 PM · #18
This thread pretty much died two days ago but I wanted to say that some people have commented on my photo being outside the box and seeming not to like it. It actually has a diary product in it too. I guess I'll just hang my head low for not getting a splash, mustach, or cow shot. But I guess those aren't good enough either.
01/22/2003 09:23:56 PM · #19
i thought the milk challenge was pretty inspirational. to me, milk is a topic with alot of potential for 'poetic' interpretation.

that's why i have a 5.5 :) .. a little *too* poetic methinks :) ..

01/22/2003 09:59:31 PM · #20
Originally posted by magnetic9999:

i thought the milk challenge was pretty inspirational. to me, milk is a topic with alot of potential for 'poetic' interpretation.

that's why i have a 5.5 :) .. a little *too* poetic methinks :) ..

Why sakes alive
A five-point-five
I'll trade it for
My four-point-four!
01/22/2003 10:10:07 PM · #21
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Why sakes alive
A five-point-five
I'll trade it for
My four-point-four!


A four-point-four
Add point eight more
And you'll get to
My five-point-two!

-Terry, who also has too much time on his hands.
01/22/2003 10:20:09 PM · #22
Hey, maybe we should require comments to be haiku; CC reviews could be in sonnet form...
Actually, if you do have any spare time, can you zip some up into an archive file and email it to me? I'm running behind as usual...
01/22/2003 10:39:07 PM · #23
Irish Poetry:

There once was a photo of dairy,
whose lighting I found kind of glarey,
The focus was off
Or intentionally soft
and the challengfe was met, but just barely

01/22/2003 11:25:38 PM · #24
Haiku

A photographer Diary ...
... Got milk ?
Score falls


Bonne nuit
Lionel

Message edited by author 2003-01-22 23:33:10.
01/23/2003 01:52:03 AM · #25
My first vote was 8
I thought I'd do it this time
... 5.480

(Pronounce the 0 as "oh" please, otherwise I have too many syllables).
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