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04/02/2013 08:09:53 PM · #1
even considering all the things it could be good for, do you trust it? is it worth the risk?

how do you feel about fb generating stories about you that you will never see?

here's something you might want to read before you toggle back over...
04/02/2013 08:17:28 PM · #2
I had a Facebook account for a few months, but when I realized that I had never posted anything to it except articles about Facebook security, I closed the account.
04/02/2013 08:25:47 PM · #3
i use it to keep in touch with my family and friends, but lately its been annoying with the ads and all the changes they are making. i'm real close to killing my account.

my friend circle is pretty small, consisting of only close family and friends. i think i only have like 30 friends of so.
04/02/2013 08:40:46 PM · #4
www.photoattorney.com has a leading article on social networks stripping metadata.
04/02/2013 08:51:36 PM · #5
I do post pictures on FB documenting events of our daily life. So is my wife who is a bigger fan of FB. I do not particularly like it but I do live in a country 10,000 km away from my home country and I have to say it's a good way to have family and friends updated with what we are up to. Interesting post, good to know about. Thanks
04/02/2013 09:03:44 PM · #6
I dont trust facebook...The company is too liberal and promotes their views
04/02/2013 10:29:42 PM · #7
Originally posted by cowboy221977:

I dont trust facebook...The company is too liberal and promotes their views


interesting, these guys don't seem to care about that...

https://www.facebook.com/SeanHannity

https://www.facebook.com/RushLimbaugh

https://www.facebook.com/billoreily

04/02/2013 10:43:17 PM · #8
Originally posted by Tiberius:

I do post pictures on FB documenting events of our daily life. So is my wife who is a bigger fan of FB. I do not particularly like it but I do live in a country 10,000 km away from my home country and I have to say it's a good way to have family and friends updated with what we are up to. Interesting post, good to know about. Thanks


I've lived in the same neighborhood for the past eleventy-billion years. If I want to communicate with a friend, I just walk down to the lunch place down the street, and the person I'm looking for will usually walk by before I get to the front of the line.
04/03/2013 12:20:05 AM · #9
Do I trust Facebook? Um, no.
04/03/2013 12:59:40 AM · #10
I like Facebook. I enjoy keeping up with people that way. I've run into old friends through Facebook. Do I trust FB? It's a business. They'll find ways to make money. So no. I don't trust it. But I still like it and still use it, and people can steal my photos from there. Eh. Life is short. I can't worry about FB. :-)
04/03/2013 03:06:42 AM · #11
Living in Scotland and most of my family and friends living in the Netherlands FB is one good way to keep in touch. Just for some short messages, about the weather, funny experiences and so on.
But at the same time I dislike it because of the many adds, the unwanted messages you get from friends from friends from 'friends'. And I certainly don't trust FB.
04/03/2013 03:18:57 AM · #12
I never trusted them and will never. Whatever you post, they can and will use it anyway they want, with or without your consent and one day you'll regret that you posted it in the first place.
04/03/2013 04:55:10 AM · #13
Originally posted by Melethia:

I like Facebook. I enjoy keeping up with people that way. I've run into old friends through Facebook. Do I trust FB? It's a business. They'll find ways to make money. So no. I don't trust it. But I still like it and still use it, and people can steal my photos from there. Eh. Life is short. I can't worry about FB. :-)


My thoughts exactly...who cares.
04/03/2013 05:23:06 AM · #14
Originally posted by Tiny:

Originally posted by Melethia:

I like Facebook. I enjoy keeping up with people that way. I've run into old friends through Facebook. Do I trust FB? It's a business. They'll find ways to make money. So no. I don't trust it. But I still like it and still use it, and people can steal my photos from there. Eh. Life is short. I can't worry about FB. :-)


My thoughts exactly...who cares.


I don't post on FB because I don't like the way it slowly takes everything you post and generates an on-line life for you. Employers use it to vet staff, journalists would use it in the event that you became newsworthy, you are literally leaving the front door open for anybody to wander in (even with the tightest security settings it's only as secure as the non-secure FB servers)to take a look around.

Had FB been launched as it is now people would have avoided it, but it's gradually getting bigger and more invasive and people don't realise what the end-state will be, FB doesn't even know yet, it will find out its boundaries by public discontent. Imagine I set up a website, asked you all to tell me everything about you so I could sell it to advertisers. Let me access your contact list so I can see who you know (even if your contacts don't want you to) and how this changes over time, give me your photos so I know where you've been and tag them so I know who else was there too. Would you?

Wow, a picture of your new house. And you're going on holiday next week with your whole family but not taking your camera gear with you? And you're letting the WHOLE WORLD know.

Message edited by author 2013-04-03 05:30:50.
04/03/2013 06:17:05 AM · #15
Facebook definitely has creepy moments. I don't have my full name, address, school or employment details on facebook (or anywhere else for that matter) and it keeps giving me random questionnaires (How many Kilometres do you live from this city 0_0). I once liked my school's page so I could get info on the annual reunion and a few days later I was asked whether I wanted to add the school to my page details.

So there's no doubt FB's gagging for info but I'm not an oversharer so I'm not that concerned. I actually think I should post a bit more with my full name because the first thing that pops up on my 2 page google search is a guestbook entry on a disney site when I was 11. *sigh*

Message edited by author 2013-04-11 13:00:55.
04/03/2013 09:15:09 AM · #16
I don't "trust" it more than any other corporation. I didn't have much use for it at first, and just checked in once in a while to see what my kids were up to. Once I had a few cycling contacts, however, it became my best way of finding group rides and then figuring out who everyone was afterwards. (When I posted my photos, then people started tagging themselves and friends)
04/03/2013 09:55:56 AM · #17
I have family and friends all over the planet. FB is the best way to keep up with them.

You do need to watch your settings and what you post. For example, I don't post about trips or other instances when I'll be away until after the fact. I don't "check-in" at places either.

I'd be more concerned about sites like Spokeo which mine public databases to dig up stuff about you that's much more sensitive than what you're posting on FB.

04/03/2013 09:58:59 AM · #18
i find it interesting that i can do a search on my computer and when i look at my phone googlen now gives me an ETA to that destination if applicable on my phone.

so no, facebook doesn't worry me. i'm just annoyed withed the overcrowding of the interface with junk.

i am perfectly aware that my interests are being bought and sold.

04/03/2013 10:59:29 AM · #19
Originally posted by Spork99:


You do need to watch your settings and what you post. For example, I don't post about trips or other instances when I'll be away until after the fact. I don't "check-in" at places either.

I'd be more concerned about sites like Spokeo which mine public databases to dig up stuff about you that's much more sensitive than what you're posting on FB.


^This is the truth. Anything you put anywhere on the internet, is public. Forever. And there are tools out there that are very good at digging it all up.
04/03/2013 11:15:48 AM · #20
Originally posted by Ann:

Originally posted by Spork99:


You do need to watch your settings and what you post. For example, I don't post about trips or other instances when I'll be away until after the fact. I don't "check-in" at places either.

I'd be more concerned about sites like Spokeo which mine public databases to dig up stuff about you that's much more sensitive than what you're posting on FB.


^This is the truth. Anything you put anywhere on the internet, is public. Forever. And there are tools out there that are very good at digging it all up.


i got into a discussion on a local town board about local politics.

to set up the story, the mayor in out town got a DUI and is refusing to step down, the town budget is in shortfall and cops needed to be layed off. well this started a whole crap storm from the PBA and teh boards have been on fire over the mayor and how we need to support police. general politics and lobby.

i thought i was anonymous on this particular board, well i was in favor of the cuts since basically our town is low crime and we have lots of cops that we can spare to shave some. the next thing i know i am a cop hater and this particular fellow has dug up all kinds of information about me and as made it aware that he who knows who i am, where i live what my interests are and that he intends to let the cops know i do not "support" them and that i better stay out of trouble. he isn't just saying this, he has made it perfectly clear to me he knows who i am though little comments that he does indeed know who i am.

now this isn't a town sponsored message board, it a local newspaper community forum, and there is ZERO information on my profile, i only gave an email when i signed up and one i use for spam at that.

what i don't know is if he is just being intimidating or he will make good on his threats, i guess I'll know if i ever get pulled over or if i need to call them for help.

so yeah facebook is the least of my concerns.

04/03/2013 11:18:18 AM · #21
Originally posted by mike_311:

now this isn't a town sponsored message board, it a local newspaper community forum, and there is ZERO information on my profile, i only gave an email when i signed up and one i use for spam at that.

I don't get this. The most the message board admins can get from your posts is your IP address (which he'd have to contact the ISP to trace back, and then only with a warrant). And if the only other info you've given them is a fake email address, I'm not sure how he can figure out who you are.

Are you sure he's not calling your bluff?

ETA: Speaking of which, all he has to do now is Google your name and find this thread....

Message edited by author 2013-04-03 11:20:02.
04/03/2013 11:32:40 AM · #22
Originally posted by JH:

Originally posted by mike_311:

now this isn't a town sponsored message board, it a local newspaper community forum, and there is ZERO information on my profile, i only gave an email when i signed up and one i use for spam at that.

I don't get this. The most the message board admins can get from your posts is your IP address (which he'd have to contact the ISP to trace back, and then only with a warrant). And if the only other info you've given them is a fake email address, I'm not sure how he can figure out who you are.

Are you sure he's not calling your bluff?


he knows my wife's name, the street i live on and he also told me to go take pictures :) i forget what else he said.

its not a fake email, it doesn't have my name in it just an old moniker, i'm guess he used that, i don't know.

one other time i made a comment about permits costs and some other dopes piled on about how the inspector is fat and just sits around and eat donuts all day.

i went in to get the permits and voiced my displeasure and they asked me if i made the donut comments. i blew it off as if i didn't know what they were talking about and next thing i know the inspector is complaining to my contractor about how i trash them all day on the message boards and he made life hell my the contractor.

that was a few years ago.

04/03/2013 11:41:20 AM · #23
Originally posted by JH:



ETA: Speaking of which, all he has to do now is Google your name and find this thread....


its not any different than if had gone to the public meeting and voiced my opinion in "public".

besides he's moved on, the mayor isn't running this fall and the town cut the cops, he was just trying to intimate people into supporting the police on the forum, typical union tactic.

the whole thing a big sham, the PBA went knocking on door to get the public to put up signs on their lawns and and their was an outcry that they were intimidated to do so.

Message edited by author 2013-04-03 11:41:51.
04/03/2013 11:53:26 AM · #24
Originally posted by Ann:

Originally posted by Spork99:


You do need to watch your settings and what you post. For example, I don't post about trips or other instances when I'll be away until after the fact. I don't "check-in" at places either.

I'd be more concerned about sites like Spokeo which mine public databases to dig up stuff about you that's much more sensitive than what you're posting on FB.


^This is the truth. Anything you put anywhere on the internet, is public. Forever. And there are tools out there that are very good at digging it all up.


A lot of information about you that's accessible, often some of the most sensitive, isn't things you post personally, but it's things that others post or make accessible online. Things like county records, city records, state records, court records, tax records etc. Information you may have written down on a form you submitted can be scanned, loaded into a database and made accessible. Information that some clerk may have written down about you has likely been scanned in a similar fashion. Creditors can make mistakes and in an instant your credit rating goes from 750 to 550 because someone transposed a couple of digits. That can take years to fix. Mistakes get made and things like SSN's are made accessible to anyone searching.
04/03/2013 12:03:30 PM · #25
If someone really knows their stuff, they can identify you with a ridiculously small amount of information. It's often referred to as the 33 bits of entropy. As in it only takes 33 bits of info to identify you. Your average person may need much more than that, but it still doesn't take much.

It could have been as easy as searching for your spam email and finding other sites you also use the spam email on. If you identified yourself on any of those other sites then it's easy to connect the dots.
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