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03/29/2013 04:57:37 PM · #51
No style...

No Class...

Just expensive cameras and glass...

Though I do find myself liking B&W more and more... And film... Starting to really love film....
03/29/2013 06:06:44 PM · #52
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

The risk of following the stylistic lead of another in music is becoming a cover band. If you simply perform the originals of another, you are relegated to a wedding band status. Creating a live version of the recording of another artist is seen as derivative and of no artistic value.

And yet there seems to be a burgeoning market for "tribute bands" ("Fab Four", "Brit Floyd") which not only cover the originals, but play them note-for-note as nearly as possibly, with Dweezel Zappa's effort to play his dad's compositions perhaps the most ambitious of these attempts ... :-)

"Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal."
-- T.S. Eliot
03/31/2013 10:23:36 PM · #53
"Good art is not universal. Bruce Willis is universal. Godzilla is universal. All good art is tribal."

-Sherman Alexie
03/31/2013 10:45:29 PM · #54
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Originally posted by LoVi:

"If you are working in an intentionally mannered way, then you are limiting yourself to conform to a cliche."
BrennanOB -

I disagree... quite a bit of music is played with notes in a mostly mannered and intentional way... it is the INTERPRETATION of playing music that creates one's own style...... to set an intention allows one to set a goal....to set a goal...one is motivated....to be motivated is to live.....

setting intentions help clarify chaos...


The risk of following the stylistic lead of another in music is becoming a cover band. If you simply perform the originals of another, you are relegated to a wedding band status. Creating a live version of the recording of another artist is seen as derivative and of no artistic value. Entertaining and worthy of technical praise it lacks value because it is done in the style of another. If you make your own version of another's song, the more divergent the better. When Johnny Cash covered Nine Inch Nails' song Hurt, he changed it enough to make it his own and create something amazingly unique.
Adding the elements that you enjoy in the work of another is a great learning tool, and can spur your own style, but the risk is in following the masters without adding enough of yourself to get above the level of a cover band.


Some great points. Better a lousy original band than a technically perfect yet soulless cover band. Same goes for photography, perhaps.
04/01/2013 12:15:43 AM · #55
Originally posted by gcoulson:

Originally posted by Alexkc:

Originally posted by jagar:

We all see and imagine things differently, photography is just an extension of that, I didn't and i don't try to have a style but I also don't try to copy anybody else's either, a style just happens I think.


+1

As for me, I never searched for a style. What I constantly look for is a way to experiment and improveand if it leads towards a style, as Jagar said, it just happened.

so a "style" is something you arrive at over time as a product of your experiences, be it intentional or not?


style comes from definitely listening to your inner self, embracing the artistic or sometimes purely technical and always photographing for yourself and not others is a key, some people have stronger styles because they have a different view of the world and some purposely develop a style and others it comes from time and experience, you can teach to imitate style but to have your own you must forego conventions of others and the masses.

it comes from your inner love of seeing in a different way to others and staying true to yourself, some people change style, artists evolve over time as art isnt static and neither are artists, where as photographs are static. some styles are clearer to spot than others. styles can also be the type of genre you shoot and become known for but it doesnt and cant define a style on its own. style can box you in if your not careful but can always get you noticed good or bad.

its good to not limit yourself and push forward and you can still retain a style while evolving but i see so many people who are technically proficient or great with tools but do not understand themselves and how to express that through their photography and therefore lack that in their work and therefore there is no style to see consistantly through their work, just imitations...

Message edited by author 2013-04-01 00:18:32.
04/01/2013 01:43:28 PM · #56
Just wanted to personally thank everyone for their participation in this thread. I think we had some good, lively and productive discussion. It was good to hear the viewpoints from folks with all different philosophies.

Wish we had more debates/discussions like this here on DPC.
04/01/2013 07:06:14 PM · #57
I was a bit surprised to see my name mentioned as someone having a recognizable style, mainly because it wasn't too long ago I was asking this same question. For me I have certain subjects i enjoy shooting and have developed several actions and a workflow with editing that I like so I guess the style just kinda fell in place. I sure it has been stated, shoot what you love the style will develop naturally.
04/02/2013 08:46:31 AM · #58
as others have mentioned, a lot of "style" comes from your shooting habits. habits can be either good or bad; i'm prone to thinking that good habits are ones that are developed on purpose and that bad habits tend to come from things that are done without thinking of the consequences. every now and then we'll all have our happy accidents; the key, though, is getting to the point of producing consistently.

even though this thread is over 3 years old, it had some pretty good ideas for defining and finding one's visual voice.
04/02/2013 11:18:28 AM · #59
Originally posted by Skip:

as others have mentioned, a lot of "style" comes from your shooting habits. habits can be either good or bad; i'm prone to thinking that good habits are ones that are developed on purpose and that bad habits tend to come from things that are done without thinking of the consequences. every now and then we'll all have our happy accidents; the key, though, is getting to the point of producing consistently.

even though this thread is over 3 years old, it had some pretty good ideas for defining and finding one's visual voice.


That discussion was short but interesting. Most of the rules are about what not to do, so I made up 6 Rules of Photography of my own--

6 Rules of Photography
know your gear
know your limitations
know your subject(s)
know how human vision works
be ready
be aware of what's behind you
04/02/2013 11:20:30 AM · #60
Originally posted by gcoulson:

Just wanted to personally thank everyone for their participation in this thread. I think we had some good, lively and productive discussion. It was good to hear the viewpoints from folks with all different philosophies.

Wish we had more debates/discussions like this here on DPC.


+1
04/02/2013 01:34:35 PM · #61
Someone once told me that I have a "style-less style." I always liked that assessment.
04/02/2013 01:49:27 PM · #62
ha. you are beyond style.
04/02/2013 01:51:04 PM · #63
Originally posted by Skip:

as others have mentioned, a lot of "style" comes from your shooting habits. habits can be either good or bad; i'm prone to thinking that good habits are ones that are developed on purpose and that bad habits tend to come from things that are done without thinking of the consequences. every now and then we'll all have our happy accidents; the key, though, is getting to the point of producing consistently.



this is probably the best assessment of style i have come across.
04/02/2013 02:11:47 PM · #64
Originally posted by bvy:

Someone once told me that I have a "style-less style." I always liked that assessment.


An English novel in the 1800's would call your style "artless." (not artificial; natural; simple; uncontrived: artless beauty; artless charm.)
04/02/2013 02:23:16 PM · #65
i heard style-less is in style these days.
04/02/2013 02:27:39 PM · #66
Originally posted by bvy:

Someone once told me that I have a "style-less style." I always liked that assessment.

Interesting how we can have the same style and yet our pictures look nothing alike ... :-)
04/02/2013 02:50:07 PM · #67
What is a habit?
Anything you have done more than 3 times.
That's almost everything.
There is no way to do anything only once.
On the other hand, every moment is unique.
There is no way to perfectly repeat yourself.
There is no such thing as habit.
There is only the illusion of habit.

Style as habit is built on the illusion of predictability.
The more predictable you are perceived to be, the more style you are perceived to have.
It is possible to be predictably unpredictable.
Style is always only perceived by other people.
You can know your own style only by attempting to emulate it.

When you're shooting with your camera, the last thing you should think of is style.
04/02/2013 02:54:27 PM · #68
Originally posted by skewsme:

i heard style-less is in style these days.

What's out of style? Whatever it is, that's my style!
04/02/2013 02:56:34 PM · #69
beyond the last thing, pixelpig.

everything is like a slippery fish taken from its watery home...
04/02/2013 03:50:30 PM · #70
very lao tzu, pixelpig!
04/02/2013 05:41:16 PM · #71
Originally posted by Ann:

Originally posted by bvy:

Someone once told me that I have a "style-less style." I always liked that assessment.


An English novel in the 1800's would call your style "artless." (not artificial; natural; simple; uncontrived: artless beauty; artless charm.)

I like you.
04/02/2013 06:17:00 PM · #72
Time to bring up Piet Hein again; the Danish mathematician and poet has this to say:

There is one art,
no more, no less;
to do all things
with artlessness.


That dovetails with the ideal of artless beauty and charm.
04/02/2013 07:21:55 PM · #73
We should have an "artless" challenge. I fear I would then make something terrifically artful.
04/02/2013 07:32:22 PM · #74
Originally posted by bvy:

Originally posted by Ann:

Originally posted by bvy:

Someone once told me that I have a "style-less style." I always liked that assessment.


An English novel in the 1800's would call your style "artless." (not artificial; natural; simple; uncontrived: artless beauty; artless charm.)

I like you.


Awesome. Your writing is as artless as your art, bvy.
04/03/2013 12:24:07 AM · #75
Nobody's ever accused me of having a style... thankfully.
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