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03/04/2013 12:06:56 AM · #1101 |
| Australia... Proof of how well gun laws work! |
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03/04/2013 08:46:37 AM · #1102 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Australia... Proof of how well gun laws work! |
So, if this happened in the USA, a bunch of armed, vigilante citizens would've shot the robbers?
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03/04/2013 10:42:44 AM · #1103 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Australia... Proof of how well gun laws work! |
What's your point here? That a single incident obviates years of statistical evidence? |
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03/04/2013 02:41:51 PM · #1104 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Cory:
Australia... Proof of how well gun laws work! |
What's your point here? That a single incident obviates years of statistical evidence? |
Well, based on the one-incident-tars-all principle I'd say we now have grounds to consider banning guns for hunting and home defense ... or maybe if we just take the guns away from the men ...
Man Stores Bullets In Oven ...
Hunter's stray bullet kills man after a mile-long ricochet off a boar (Europe gets into the act!) |
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03/04/2013 02:51:33 PM · #1105 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Cory:
Australia... Proof of how well gun laws work! |
What's your point here? That a single incident obviates years of statistical evidence? |
Nope - just that gun bans really don't work to remove guns from the criminals who really want them.
Clearly there are potential benefits, but I just don't expect that the government could actually do this in a way that will be successful at achieving their goals - and I tend to think of Austrialia's government as being more effective than our own by quite a shot.
By the way, Australia is, from what I understand, suffering from a problem with home invasions - since the criminals pretty much know it's gonna be a UFC style fight, rather than a gun fight, they are willing to take bigger risks.
And for the General, I think we need to encourage this - why? 7 billion people - we could do with a few less idiots running around and procreating - hell I might even advocate for replacing guardrails with giant metal spikes that point towards the oncoming traffic at a 45 degree angle.
Honestly, shit happens, and random idiocy and accidents will always happen - we can't stop those no matter what we do (and the idiots will still be dangerous, likely for a longer period of time, without guns)... The goal, as stated, is to remove the guns from the hands of those who would intentionally seek to harm others.
ETA: ROFL at the "Maybe he was just making handgun-helper" comment, that's gold.
Message edited by author 2013-03-04 14:52:31. |
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03/07/2013 05:14:20 PM · #1106 |
Watch this, it really says it all.
You're not allowed to have a gun, but they acknowledge they can't help you for at least 2-3 minutes and more likely 20-30 minutes.
You're on your own. |
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03/07/2013 05:46:05 PM · #1107 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Watch this, it really says it all.
You're not allowed to have a gun, but they acknowledge they can't help you for at least 2-3 minutes and more likely 20-30 minutes.
You're on your own. |
Must be terrible to live in a place where one has no knowledge of the number of crimes that transpire in a given area, what the average response is to an alarm, where the burglars are so bold as to continue their activities even after an audible alarm has sounded... I know I sure would not want to live there.
Couple that with the inability to do conduct threat risk analysis, engage in target hardening, adopting good physical security posture and devising security and safety mechanisms to counter or at the very least delay an assault on your residence... yep, blame it all on the police and the inability to own a gun. If indeed guns were the solution to crime, then one would think that the USA should be the safest country in the world.
Good grief man, maybe Americans should all move north of the border ...folks here have no guns and still manage to survive.
Ray
Message edited by author 2013-03-07 17:53:33. |
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03/07/2013 08:27:16 PM · #1108 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by Cory:
Watch this, it really says it all.
You're not allowed to have a gun, but they acknowledge they can't help you for at least 2-3 minutes and more likely 20-30 minutes.
You're on your own. |
Must be terrible to live in a place where one has no knowledge of the number of crimes that transpire in a given area, what the average response is to an alarm, where the burglars are so bold as to continue their activities even after an audible alarm has sounded... I know I sure would not want to live there.
Couple that with the inability to do conduct threat risk analysis, engage in target hardening, adopting good physical security posture and devising security and safety mechanisms to counter or at the very least delay an assault on your residence... yep, blame it all on the police and the inability to own a gun. If indeed guns were the solution to crime, then one would think that the USA should be the safest country in the world.
Good grief man, maybe Americans should all move north of the border ...folks here have no guns and still manage to survive.
Ray |
You have to forgive Cory. Like what happened in Tron, he's been sucked Into the Live Leaks web site. Must be horrible. |
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03/07/2013 09:06:49 PM · #1109 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by Cory:
Watch this, it really says it all.
You're not allowed to have a gun, but they acknowledge they can't help you for at least 2-3 minutes and more likely 20-30 minutes.
You're on your own. |
Must be terrible to live in a place where one has no knowledge of the number of crimes that transpire in a given area, what the average response is to an alarm, where the burglars are so bold as to continue their activities even after an audible alarm has sounded... I know I sure would not want to live there.
Couple that with the inability to do conduct threat risk analysis, engage in target hardening, adopting good physical security posture and devising security and safety mechanisms to counter or at the very least delay an assault on your residence... yep, blame it all on the police and the inability to own a gun. If indeed guns were the solution to crime, then one would think that the USA should be the safest country in the world.
Good grief man, maybe Americans should all move north of the border ...folks here have no guns and still manage to survive.
Ray |
You have to forgive Cory. Like what happened in Tron, he's been sucked Into the Live Leaks web site. Must be horrible. |
Why do they now tell women that are being raped to yell fire..... Yell fire and they come running... however , if the pretty eoman had a little pistol and put 2 rounds under the chin...all would be done.
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03/08/2013 01:13:59 AM · #1110 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by Cory:
Watch this, it really says it all.
You're not allowed to have a gun, but they acknowledge they can't help you for at least 2-3 minutes and more likely 20-30 minutes.
You're on your own. |
Must be terrible to live in a place where one has no knowledge of the number of crimes that transpire in a given area, what the average response is to an alarm, where the burglars are so bold as to continue their activities even after an audible alarm has sounded... I know I sure would not want to live there.
Couple that with the inability to do conduct threat risk analysis, engage in target hardening, adopting good physical security posture and devising security and safety mechanisms to counter or at the very least delay an assault on your residence... yep, blame it all on the police and the inability to own a gun. If indeed guns were the solution to crime, then one would think that the USA should be the safest country in the world.
Good grief man, maybe Americans should all move north of the border ...folks here have no guns and still manage to survive.
Ray |
You have to forgive Cory. Like what happened in Tron, he's been sucked Into the Live Leaks web site. Must be horrible. |
Just my imagination, I'm sure.
Of course, Ray, admittedly, you are pretty biased here. ;)
No offense, but the last people I want trying to help me are the cops. I don't call 911. Hell, once I called the cops because the neighbor was taking pot shots at me and my friends - after an hour my dad and I left in a truck - 100 yards down the road we had shotgun barrels in our faces, with very nervous cops on the other end of the stick.
Yeah, I want cops protecting me like I want cancer.
Message edited by author 2013-03-08 01:15:26. |
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03/08/2013 07:18:21 PM · #1111 |
Originally posted by cowboy221977:
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by Cory:
Watch this, it really says it all.
You're not allowed to have a gun, but they acknowledge they can't help you for at least 2-3 minutes and more likely 20-30 minutes.
You're on your own. |
Must be terrible to live in a place where one has no knowledge of the number of crimes that transpire in a given area, what the average response is to an alarm, where the burglars are so bold as to continue their activities even after an audible alarm has sounded... I know I sure would not want to live there.
Couple that with the inability to do conduct threat risk analysis, engage in target hardening, adopting good physical security posture and devising security and safety mechanisms to counter or at the very least delay an assault on your residence... yep, blame it all on the police and the inability to own a gun. If indeed guns were the solution to crime, then one would think that the USA should be the safest country in the world.
Good grief man, maybe Americans should all move north of the border ...folks here have no guns and still manage to survive.
Ray |
You have to forgive Cory. Like what happened in Tron, he's been sucked Into the Live Leaks web site. Must be horrible. |
Why do they now tell women that are being raped to yell fire..... Yell fire and they come running... however , if the pretty eoman had a little pistol and put 2 rounds under the chin...all would be done. |
So does the woman ask the rapist hold on let me get my gun out first before you sneak up and attack me? You act like there's all this time use a gun in that situation. Perhaps if her bra shot projectiles, maybe. |
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03/08/2013 07:42:35 PM · #1112 |
Originally posted by yanko:
So does the woman ask the rapist hold on let me get my gun out first before you sneak up and attack me? You act like there's all this time use a gun in that situation. Perhaps if her bra shot projectiles, maybe. |
Check this out |
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03/08/2013 08:20:59 PM · #1113 |
Anecdotes are not statistical evidence. I'll go with actual statistical evidence every time. It's still safer to live in a home without a gun than with one, anecdotes be damned.
That's all I came here to say.
Well, and...that bra is pretty awesome. Where can I get one? Amazon? |
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03/08/2013 09:27:15 PM · #1114 |
| I hear they now make iPhone cases with tasers. |
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03/09/2013 01:55:17 AM · #1115 |
Originally posted by yanko:
So does the woman ask the rapist hold on let me get my gun out first before you sneak up and attack me? You act like there's all this time use a gun in that situation. Perhaps if her bra shot projectiles, maybe. |
Col Jeff Cooper is generally credited (in certain gun circles) as deriving or at least promoting the color code of awareness.
White is reserved only for your most protected of places (typically a home sactuary like a master bedroom). Condition White is most closely associated with sleep. A person daydreaming or staring off into space or in general not aware of their surroundings are the most likely to be victimized, injure themselves, have an accident, etc. Predators specifically look for victims in condition white - not paying attention to ones surroundings.
Yellow is a ready state of alertness generally regarded as aware of one's surroundings. Noticing where the fire exits are in a resturant, the ability to see the bottoms of the rear tires of the car in front of you while stopped at a traffic light, the knowing of what cloathes your child had on or whether your cell phone battery is charged. These kinds of activities would be examples of condition Yellow. A general awareness without paranoia. Yellow is the processing of all senses input - including the Etheric.
Orange is a focused awareness where tunnel vision begins to exert itself. An example would be you are approaching an intersection and you have the green light, you notice a vehicle approaching from either the right or left (red light) and it is not slowing down. You become focused on the actions of the approaching vehicle and begin to make plans of evading a collision - either by braking or some other evasive manuever.
Red is the actual act of avoiding the collision where the heart rate increases, adrenlin dumps, your body prepares for fight or flight, and you actually begin braking or manuevering to avoid the impact or brace for it.
Massad Ayoob at LFI added the color Black to identify the skewed perception, auditory exclusion, and other physio-psycological aspects of violent encounters like time slowing.
I, at Awareness Associates LLC added Grey to signify the aftermath problems. Specifically the effects of tunnel vision, auditory exclusion, skewed perception, etc that impact a person's ability to remember or recall the event accurately. Grey symbolizes why witness accounts vary person to person, why the victim recalls items out of sequence or doesn't remember parts of the event - yet can recall other parts with absolute clarity.
White - Yellow - Orange - Red - Black - Grey (see my avatar)
Predators look for people in condition White. It is when you will most likely be victimized. Condition Yellow is the preferred state of alertness for all persons outside their sleep quarters and requires an active engagement with one's surroundings. A person armed, should never be in condition white while in public. It lacks responsibility and should be shunned. The ability to successfully transition into condition Orange (alerted to a potential threat) or to Red (actively engaged in that threat) requires the awareness state of condition Yellow.
Message edited by author 2013-03-09 04:41:00. |
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03/09/2013 06:32:53 AM · #1116 |
Just out of curiosity  Flash, have you a book or instructional manual on this stuff... I would love to purchase one and read it.
While I do agree with your point about condition "White", I would add that people should become aware of their vulnerabilities and address them accordingly. As I mentioned earlier, Security Awareness, Threat Risk Analysis and Target Hardening are some of the basics that one should consider to elevate the level of security in one's environment.
There are public service announcements on the proper procedures to follow in case of fire and how to execute a escape... why not have similar programs for home protection.
Have a great day,
Ray |
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03/09/2013 02:14:27 PM · #1117 |
Originally posted by Flash:
Originally posted by yanko:
So does the woman ask the rapist hold on let me get my gun out first before you sneak up and attack me? You act like there's all this time use a gun in that situation. Perhaps if her bra shot projectiles, maybe. |
Col Jeff Cooper is generally credited (in certain gun circles) as deriving or at least promoting the color code of awareness.
White is reserved only for your most protected of places (typically a home sactuary like a master bedroom). Condition White is most closely associated with sleep. A person daydreaming or staring off into space or in general not aware of their surroundings are the most likely to be victimized, injure themselves, have an accident, etc. Predators specifically look for victims in condition white - not paying attention to ones surroundings.
Yellow is a ready state of alertness generally regarded as aware of one's surroundings. Noticing where the fire exits are in a resturant, the ability to see the bottoms of the rear tires of the car in front of you while stopped at a traffic light, the knowing of what cloathes your child had on or whether your cell phone battery is charged. These kinds of activities would be examples of condition Yellow. A general awareness without paranoia. Yellow is the processing of all senses input - including the Etheric.
Orange is a focused awareness where tunnel vision begins to exert itself. An example would be you are approaching an intersection and you have the green light, you notice a vehicle approaching from either the right or left (red light) and it is not slowing down. You become focused on the actions of the approaching vehicle and begin to make plans of evading a collision - either by braking or some other evasive manuever.
Red is the actual act of avoiding the collision where the heart rate increases, adrenlin dumps, your body prepares for fight or flight, and you actually begin braking or manuevering to avoid the impact or brace for it.
Massad Ayoob at LFI added the color Black to identify the skewed perception, auditory exclusion, and other physio-psycological aspects of violent encounters like time slowing.
I, at Awareness Associates LLC added Grey to signify the aftermath problems. Specifically the effects of tunnel vision, auditory exclusion, skewed perception, etc that impact a person's ability to remember or recall the event accurately. Grey symbolizes why witness accounts vary person to person, why the victim recalls items out of sequence or doesn't remember parts of the event - yet can recall other parts with absolute clarity.
White - Yellow - Orange - Red - Black - Grey (see my avatar)
Predators look for people in condition White. It is when you will most likely be victimized. Condition Yellow is the preferred state of alertness for all persons outside their sleep quarters and requires an active engagement with one's surroundings. A person armed, should never be in condition white while in public. It lacks responsibility and should be shunned. The ability to successfully transition into condition Orange (alerted to a potential threat) or to Red (actively engaged in that threat) requires the awareness state of condition Yellow. |
So how does this relate to my post? If a predator typically looks for victims in condition white which you've stated is mostly associated with sleep state how doesn't the woman protect herself with a gun?
Message edited by author 2013-03-09 14:15:33. |
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03/09/2013 02:25:21 PM · #1118 |
Originally posted by yanko:
So how does this relate to my post? If a predator typically looks for victims in condition white which you've stated is mostly associated with sleep state how doesn't the woman protect herself with a gun? |
I think he was saying that if you're carrying a gun, then you'd better be code yellow - and if you're walking around code white, instead of a gun, you might as well pack the KY-Jelly.
Or at least that was what I understood.
Message edited by author 2013-03-09 14:25:37. |
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03/09/2013 03:18:17 PM · #1119 |
| The code white thing with a gun didn't work out very well for that gent in South Africa. If you believe his side of the story. |
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03/11/2013 06:51:25 PM · #1120 |
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03/11/2013 11:50:03 PM · #1121 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by Flash:
Originally posted by yanko:
So does the woman ask the rapist hold on let me get my gun out first before you sneak up and attack me? You act like there's all this time use a gun in that situation. Perhaps if her bra shot projectiles, maybe. |
Col Jeff Cooper is generally credited (in certain gun circles) as deriving or at least promoting the color code of awareness.
White is reserved only for your most protected of places (typically a home sactuary like a master bedroom). Condition White is most closely associated with sleep. A person daydreaming or staring off into space or in general not aware of their surroundings are the most likely to be victimized, injure themselves, have an accident, etc. Predators specifically look for victims in condition white - not paying attention to ones surroundings.
Yellow is a ready state of alertness generally regarded as aware of one's surroundings. Noticing where the fire exits are in a resturant, the ability to see the bottoms of the rear tires of the car in front of you while stopped at a traffic light, the knowing of what cloathes your child had on or whether your cell phone battery is charged. These kinds of activities would be examples of condition Yellow. A general awareness without paranoia. Yellow is the processing of all senses input - including the Etheric.
Orange is a focused awareness where tunnel vision begins to exert itself. An example would be you are approaching an intersection and you have the green light, you notice a vehicle approaching from either the right or left (red light) and it is not slowing down. You become focused on the actions of the approaching vehicle and begin to make plans of evading a collision - either by braking or some other evasive manuever.
Red is the actual act of avoiding the collision where the heart rate increases, adrenlin dumps, your body prepares for fight or flight, and you actually begin braking or manuevering to avoid the impact or brace for it.
Massad Ayoob at LFI added the color Black to identify the skewed perception, auditory exclusion, and other physio-psycological aspects of violent encounters like time slowing.
I, at Awareness Associates LLC added Grey to signify the aftermath problems. Specifically the effects of tunnel vision, auditory exclusion, skewed perception, etc that impact a person's ability to remember or recall the event accurately. Grey symbolizes why witness accounts vary person to person, why the victim recalls items out of sequence or doesn't remember parts of the event - yet can recall other parts with absolute clarity.
White - Yellow - Orange - Red - Black - Grey (see my avatar)
Predators look for people in condition White. It is when you will most likely be victimized. Condition Yellow is the preferred state of alertness for all persons outside their sleep quarters and requires an active engagement with one's surroundings. A person armed, should never be in condition white while in public. It lacks responsibility and should be shunned. The ability to successfully transition into condition Orange (alerted to a potential threat) or to Red (actively engaged in that threat) requires the awareness state of condition Yellow. |
So how does this relate to my post? If a predator typically looks for victims in condition white which you've stated is mostly associated with sleep state how doesn't the woman protect herself with a gun? |
Cory has the essence of it.
1. Having been a Sexual Harrassment Assault Rape Prevention instructor nearly 20 years ago (PPCT certified)and authored articles in national womens magizines on self protection (specifically awareness) my point was that no one should be in condition white while in public. Especially one who is armed as that is purely irresponsible.
2. Obvioulsy people are in condition white as people get injured in their kitchens, in their garages, doing chores around the house, while on vacation, at work, while driving their vehicles, swimming, walking, running, riding their bicycles, playing with their pets, shooting guns for sport, hunting, going to college, etc etc etc.
3. The body has a number of senses (including the Etheric)- taste, touch, smell, sight, and hearing. Although some persons do not have all these senses, many do and those who are without some, often others are heightened or more accute. One purpose for these senses is to alert you to danger.
4. Ignoring these senses or turning them off is unwise - unless you are under sanctuary protection.
5. In the 90's, a common statistic was that a woman had a 25% chance (1 in 4)of being sexually assaulted at some point in her lifetime. Usually between the ages of 16-25. Date rape was the most common from of assault and college campuses were the most likely location.
6. If the woman in your rape statement was armed, then she should have been in condition yellow (keenly aware of her senses - meaning no drinking or drugs) and paying attention to her Etheric sense of danger. If she were in condition Yellow and paying attention to her senses, then I submit that the likelyhood of her being raped would be greatly dimenished as she would not be in a position to be assaulted in the first place. You cavalier statement about here needing a projectile shooting brassier is both unfounded and evidence of your understanding of the issue.
7. Whether a person or an animal, predators look for prey not paying attention. I challenge anyone to go to a local grocery store parking lot and simply sit and watch the patrons coming and going. Watch how they load their groceries, handle their childern/purse/doors/carseats/ and their driving in and out of the lot. It is illuminating. The opportunities for an assault are mindboggling. Watch people walking on the sidewalk in a downtown area and how close they are to building coming upon a blind corner. No knowledge of what is around the corner of the building yet they walk next to the building. There is no reaction time IF someone is there. Reaction time requires space and space is out by the curb - not next to the building. Same in a parking lot. Space is in the middle of the driving lanes not next to the cars.
8. 21 feet is the distance from which a person with a knife in hand can attack an armed person with a holstered gun and stab them before the gun can be drawn and fired. Police officers know this. Civilians rarely are aware of this unless they have been exposed to Sgt Dennis Tuellers reaction drill (Massad Ayoob - LFI). Awareness (paying attention to your senses input - including the etheric) allows for maximum reaction time. Reaction time is critical for avoiding an assault. Therefore - condition Yellow is critical.
PPCT Inc (Pressure Point Control Tactics Incorporated) was a research and training facility founded by Bruce Siddle. Bruce counted many military and law enforcement agencies in his credits including the RCMP. Unlike martial arts that may require years and years of training to become proficient, PPCT was based on targeting nerve centers and disrupting the communication between the brain and the muscle group - thus essentially paralyzing (temporarily) the assailant. PPCT is what allowed smaller female police officers to control and arrest much larger male offenders. It was Bruce Siddle who developed his SHARP (Sexual Harrassment Assault Rape Perevention) class available to women. In the last 25 years, much information has become readily available over the internet for those who want to find it.
A women's safety should be paramount to all of us - but mostly to the women herself. Awareness is the foundation to every other element of one's personal defense plan. Condition Yellow should be practiced and maintained vigilently while in public. |
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03/12/2013 12:28:45 AM · #1122 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Just out of curiosity Flash, have you a book or instructional manual on this stuff... I would love to purchase one and read it.
While I do agree with your point about condition "White", I would add that people should become aware of their vulnerabilities and address them accordingly. As I mentioned earlier, Security Awareness, Threat Risk Analysis and Target Hardening are some of the basics that one should consider to elevate the level of security in one's environment.
There are public service announcements on the proper procedures to follow in case of fire and how to execute a escape... why not have similar programs for home protection.
Have a great day,
Ray |
Ray -
So much of what I have compiled over the last 25 years is readily available on the internet. So much of my material is ancient by todays media (meaning VHS tapes and actual books, hardcover and softcover). The names to google would be Col Jeff Cooper (original founder of Gunsite), Massad Ayoob (original founder of LFI, Lethal Force Institute), Bruce Siddle (original founder of PPCT Inc), Sgt Dennis Tueller (last I knew he was promoted but likely has retired). Within this group of researchists and trainiers was a whole cadre of personnel (mostly from military or law enforcement) that generally developed the modern gunfighting techniques over the last 40-50 years. Jeff Cooper and Massad wrote scores of articles published in a number of handgunning magazines over a few decades. There are compilations out there. Police Bookshelf - might be a resource if you are looking for books to purchase. I would suspect that nearly all their titles would be available on Amazon as well. As I have mentioned many times before - Massad Ayoob's In The Gravest Extreme although a bit dated today, still stands as one of the best books ever written for anyone considering a firearm as part of their personal defense plan. Massad's The Physio-Psychological aspects of violent encounters was the single best video I had ever seen - of course attending traing at one of Massad's multiday seminars was even better. Actually performing the Teuller Drill and having that documented in my training file was critical to my early training and understanding of reaction time and crucial role distance plays. Bruce Siddle taught the brain process of percieving a threat, preparing an action against the threat, and implementaing that action. The time time elements involved (reaction time) and the requirements to succeed. Bruce was instrumental in the development of techniques that were effective against those high on drugs and alcohol yet werr defensible in court. The Rodney King event illustrates clearly ineffective techniques at the time by the LAPD. The Malice Green event in Detroit is another example. Bruse Siddle and PPCT promoted a different approach to restraint, using medical research as the foundation for their teaching. When the communication signals between the brain and the muscle is interrupted, then no action can be made - even when under the influence of PCP or alcohol. Paralysis (temporary) allows for the arresting officers to restrain the violent resister. I'm certain you were exposed to some of Bruce Siddles techniques while with the RCMP - even it it wasn't presented as such. Didn't your department have a DT instructor who was PPCT certified? Besides being a SHARP instructor, I was also PPCT certified as a Basic PPCT instructor and a Weapon Retention/Disarm Instructor. Those certifications have long ago expired.
Anyway - Google the names or check out Police Bookshelf. |
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03/14/2013 03:09:57 PM · #1123 |
It still amazes me how the states with the most restrictive gun laws are also places that have these high profile shootings....
The Brady scorecard goes from 0 to 100...100 being the most restrictive...OK so Mass is at 65 out of 100...Colorado...scored 15 ot of 100...New York 62 out of 100...California 81 out of 100.....Compare that to Louisiana 2 out of 100
here are the stats
So do you really thing more restrictions will make things better
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03/14/2013 03:26:54 PM · #1124 |
Originally posted by cowboy221977:
It still amazes me how the states with the most restrictive gun laws are also places that have these high profile shootings....
The Brady scorecard goes from 0 to 100...100 being the most restrictive...OK so Mass is at 65 out of 100...Colorado...scored 15 ot of 100...New York 62 out of 100...California 81 out of 100.....Compare that to Louisiana 2 out of 100
here are the stats
So do you really thing more restrictions will make things better |
Yes. If all the states had the same restrictions, you wouldn't have to worry about someone taking a 10 minute drive to the next state to get what they want (NJ 72/PA 26). In NJ I don't walk around worrying about getting shot unless I have to go to Camden. The average person, the local drunk, the kids on drugs, they don't have guns to shoot me with. It doesn't mean I won't get mugged, robbed, etc. But my chances of being shot are pretty low.
eta: //blog.northjersey.com/thepoliticalstate/243/nj-near-bottom-of-gun-ownershipdeath-rate-list/
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03/14/2013 03:34:30 PM · #1125 |
In order to purchase a firearm you must be a resident of that state....another option is it can be shipped to an FFL dealer n your state where your state laws apply...Ammo is a different story.
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