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11/14/2012 02:18:13 PM · #36

Originally posted by Venser:

Originally posted by Alexkc:
No no, I didn't want to criticize the other entries. A lot of good stuff but a lot of shoehorns too IMHO.

I will, they're terrible.
At first I thought this would be FS city, instead most people just tried to submit anything. I guess since the advent of the internet, iPads, other tablets, and cell phones, it's somewhat understandable that most people don't even know what a newspaper is anymore, let alone what most photographs look like in them.

Was it supposed to look like a newspaper photo though (halftone etc.) or just a b&w photo that might end up in a newspaper?

I just know it said "It must be black and white (and the grays in between)"......

Message edited by author 2012-11-14 14:47:10.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

11/14/2012 02:26:58 PM · #37

Originally posted by beatabg:

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Was it supposed to look like a newspaper photo though (halftone etc.) or just a b&w photo that might end up in a newspaper?

I was surprised that even though in the description it says "It must be black and white (and the grays in between)", some of the photos are not really black and white, but oh well.

During the voting period, you are out-of-line to discuss groups of images in a challenge. I will welcome your comments before a challenge begins, or after the voting period has concluded. (Oh, yeah. LOL!!!!)

RyanW

Nikon D7000

11/14/2012 02:27:00 PM · #38

if i submitted what i was GOING to (and decided to put into the monthly FS) i'm sure my score would be much higher, instead i'm sitting at 4.86 with an image that's nearly identical to the one that ran in the paper the day after i took my image. So a joking "screw you, obviously i'm right (as always)" to people who low vote me :)

Yo_Spiff

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Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

11/14/2012 02:30:02 PM · #39

I think what is going on is that people have entered according to what actually appears in newspapers. Many actual newpaper images are snapshotty and not creative photography in any way.

DPC voting, however, is based on wow-factor and personal appeal. So the challenge topic and normal voting styles are at odds with each other.

Message edited by author 2012-11-14 14:30:39.

RyanW

Nikon D7000

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

11/14/2012 02:34:48 PM · #40

Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

I think what is going on is that people have entered according to what actually appears in newspapers. Many of those images are snapshotty and not creative photography.

DPC voting, however, is based on wow-factor and personal appeal. So the challenge topic and normal voting styles are at odds with each other.

Voting should be based on the challenge. Screw "oooh, that's pretty but has nothing to do with what we're supposed to be shooting".

nygold

Nikon D5000

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G

11/14/2012 02:38:36 PM · #41

Votes: 40
Views: 81
Avg Vote: 5.5500
Moved up just a tad.

Denielle

Canon EOS-7D Mark II

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

11/14/2012 02:49:39 PM · #42

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by beatabg:
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Was it supposed to look like a newspaper photo though (halftone etc.) or just a b&w photo that might end up in a newspaper?

I was surprised that even though in the description it says "It must be black and white (and the grays in between)", some of the photos are not really black and white, but oh well.

During the voting period, you are out-of-line to discuss groups of images in a challenge. I will welcome your comments before a challenge begins, or after the voting period has concluded. (Oh, yeah. LOL!!!!)

not seeing her "out-of-line" comment there.
the description does say "MUST" not "can". therefore, she's not saying anything bad about any image... she's simply pointing out the obvious... the RULE.
that shouldn't cast bias, and if it does, people are idiots.

11/14/2012 02:55:44 PM · #43

Originally posted by hahn23:

Oh really? So a group of pictures that are DNMC shouldn't be discussed either. Basically nothing should be discussed. Even this thread shouldn't exist because people are discussing scores for the entries that are currently in voting.
Sad how frustrated and negative some people seem to be... And I'm happy you are enjoying the use of "lol" that you learned recently :)

Message edited by author 2012-11-14 15:26:35.

11/14/2012 03:00:42 PM · #44

Originally posted by Denielle:

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by beatabg:
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Was it supposed to look like a newspaper photo though (halftone etc.) or just a b&w photo that might end up in a newspaper?

I was surprised that even though in the description it says "It must be black and white (and the grays in between)", some of the photos are not really black and white, but oh well.

During the voting period, you are out-of-line to discuss groups of images in a challenge. I will welcome your comments before a challenge begins, or after the voting period has concluded. (Oh, yeah. LOL!!!!)

not seeing her "out-of-line" comment there.
the description does say "MUST" not "can". therefore, she's not saying anything bad about any image... she's simply pointing out the obvious... the RULE.
that shouldn't cast bias, and if it does, people are idiots.

Thanks Denielle! Yes, just quoting the challenge description/rules.

11/14/2012 03:06:26 PM · #45

Originally posted by beatabg:

Originally posted by hahn23:

During the voting period, you are out-of-line to discuss groups of images in a challenge. I will welcome your comments before a challenge begins, or after the voting period has concluded. (Oh, yeah. LOL!!!!)

Oh really? So a group of pictures that are DNMC shouldn't be discussed either. Basically nothing should be discussed. Even this thread shouldn't exist because people are discussing scores for the entries that are currently in voting.
Sad how frustrated and negative some people seem to be... And I'm happy you are enjoying the use of "lol" that you've learned recently :)

Neil offered the following opinion in a previous scores thread. Post #54

Originally posted by Neil:

Per the rules, do not post outtakes during the challenge voting period (I've removed the offending post and reply). After the challenge ends is fine.

Also, while perhaps a gray area, I think better not to call out a subgroup of the images during the voting period. It would make a great discussion afterwards though.

Save your comments about specific images or groups of images until after the voting ends. Otherwise, it appears you are trying to sway votes for some reason. If you have a complaint about this, you should address your gripe to

Neil and the SC.

Message edited by author 2012-11-14 15:07:48.

11/14/2012 03:19:05 PM · #46

Originally posted by hahn23:

Save your comments about specific images or groups of images until after the voting ends.

So he said "better not to call out" not "definitely can't call out". Anyway I edited my message where only the challenge rule is stated - that pictures must be black and white with grays.
And please don't tell me what to do if you could. If you have a problem just report it.

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

11/14/2012 03:26:26 PM · #47

Originally posted by beatabg:

Originally posted by hahn23:

Save your comments about specific images or groups of images until after the voting ends.

So he said "better not to call out" not "definitely can't call out". Anyway I edited my message where only the challenge rule is stated - that pictures must be black and white with grays.
And please don't tell me what to do if you could. If you have a problem just report it.

I see you have a habit. Post #7

I certainly am not telling you what to do. Sometimes, the damage is done before the stretched-too-thin SC can respond to improper forum behavior. BTW, I'm not frustrated, nor negative.

Denielle

Canon EOS-7D Mark II

11/14/2012 03:31:49 PM · #48

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by beatabg:

Originally posted by hahn23:

Save your comments about specific images or groups of images until after the voting ends.

So he said "better not to call out" not "definitely can't call out". Anyway I edited my message where only the challenge rule is stated - that pictures must be black and white with grays.
And please don't tell me what to do if you could. If you have a problem just report it.

I see you have a habit. Post #7

I certainly am not telling you what to do. Sometimes, the damage is done before the stretched-too-thin SC can respond to improper forum behavior. BTW, I'm not frustrated, nor negative.

so people shouldn't abide by challenge rules, but we have to abide by forum rules?
doesn't make much sense to me.
restating challenge rules doesn't seem to "sway voters" IMO. if it does, they shouldn't be voting in the first place, because clearly they didn't READ challenge rules to begin with.

11/14/2012 03:42:22 PM · #49

Originally posted by hahn23:

"Save your comments[...]" is telling me what to do.
Oh yeah, I have a habit? That I really wanted to vote in a challenge I didn't participate in but couldn't find the original pictures to compare? Used a random word in search but didn't state any opinions about any pictures.
I see you have a habit of complaining, like in previous scores threads. If you feel like it just open a whole new thread where you can do that since this one is about the scores.
Btw. I never directly said you are frustrated or negative :)

Message edited by author 2012-11-14 15:44:19.