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09/17/2012 04:28:19 PM · #26
Originally posted by Ammie:

Originally posted by Simms:

We've seen this before and no doubt we will see it again and again. The thing is, no one looks at you like a cheat - we all know it happens and we understand it must really `hurt`. I think the SC need to stick to this rule and fully understand why the rule is a blanket one.

Saying that, I really hope you manage to retrieve the original image and hopefully find a better way (more DPC friendly) in future to copy your files across to your computer.

Don't know about the in future. I feel cheated and robbed. I'm not even going to try and find the original because I feel I already submitted it.


Seriously, don't feel the Site Council are being vindictive here, its a blanket rule that applies to all - it sucks bug time I agree (the situation). At the end of the day its only a virtual ribbon, you know you had a ribbon winning shot and through one of those quirky rules its been denied.
09/17/2012 04:33:03 PM · #27
Originally posted by Ammie:

I feel cheated and robbed. I'm not even going to try and find the original because I feel I already submitted it.


its a good things we dont actually win real prizes...
09/17/2012 04:34:26 PM · #28
Originally posted by Ammie:


Don't know about the in future. I feel cheated and robbed. I'm not even going to try and find the original because I feel I already submitted it.


Really? I mean seriously? Believe me, I feel your pain, but you just have to chalk this up to learning; it's no use to blame others. Per the rules, the original you submit must be an unmodified file from your camera. The one you submitted was not. End of story, unless you put in the effort to recover the file from your card. You were previously told this is probably possible unless it's been over-written. If you choose not to, that's your prerogative.
09/17/2012 04:41:12 PM · #29
You've still got your Sherpet awards.. ;)
09/17/2012 04:42:42 PM · #30
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by Ammie:


Don't know about the in future. I feel cheated and robbed. I'm not even going to try and find the original because I feel I already submitted it.


Really? I mean seriously? Believe me, I feel your pain, but you just have to chalk this up to learning; it's no use to blame others. Per the rules, the original you submit must be an unmodified file from your camera. The one you submitted was not. End of story, unless you put in the effort to recover the file from your card. You were previously told this is probably possible unless it's been over-written. If you choose not to, that's your prerogative.


Aimee - your current stance is really quite surprising. There are quite a few of us who have spent a good amount of time today trying to help you out in getting the original unedited images to SC for validation. As I said in a PM earlier, check your cards and see if the files are still there. If they are there, you can upload them directly into an email without even moving them to your computer. If you overwrote them, come back to us and we can try to give you recommendations of software to get the files back.There are ways to get the UNMODIFIED files. It is up to you to submit them. We have given ideas and recommendations on how to proceed, but you seem to be sticking your feet in.

The rules around unmodified files are very clear and have been this way since the start of the site.

Message edited by author 2012-09-17 16:47:02.
09/17/2012 05:01:39 PM · #31
Amanda, I'm looking at your profile and EVERY one of the images I see on your top-scores line is a horizontal shot, so I think it's very likely you've never had a "rotated" shot validated, and therefore this is the first time you've encountered this quirk with the Windows Picture Viewer. You've gotten very helpful advice here, please don't just throw in the towel. There are many ways to recover the original from a card, even if it's ostensibly no longer on there.
09/17/2012 05:13:14 PM · #32
Originally posted by Ammie:

Originally posted by Simms:

We've seen this before and no doubt we will see it again and again. The thing is, no one looks at you like a cheat - we all know it happens and we understand it must really `hurt`. I think the SC need to stick to this rule and fully understand why the rule is a blanket one.

Saying that, I really hope you manage to retrieve the original image and hopefully find a better way (more DPC friendly) in future to copy your files across to your computer.

Don't know about the in future. I feel cheated and robbed. I'm not even going to try and find the original because I feel I already submitted it.


I understand completely, and felt the same way when it happened to me. I figured I was safe opening the file in photoshop elements and then doing a save as. But it changed my file. At the time, it was a photo that far surpassed anything I had taken, and I was so incredibly proud of it. It wasn't my fault, and the SC should understand that.

But the problem is, that there's no way they can tell whether the file was modified in other ways. They know I don't cheat. They know you don't cheat. But it's too difficult to ask the SC to make a judgement call on each photo that shows signs of being modified in some way. The only way to be fair is to have everyone play by the same rules. It doesn't feel fair, but just because we didn't realize that our software changes the original, doesn't really change anything -- the original was still modified.

Give it some time. I wanted to quit immediately when it happened, but after a couple of days I realized that the rule is a good one, even though I got stung by it. It happened once, and now I know better.

(by the way, I started shooting RAW simply because I didn't want to keep making a backup copy of my jpeg files. I thought it was a ridiculous waste of space having another copy, and I hated RAW. Now I realize just how powerful it is. It actually was a good side affect of the DQ -- but I certainly didn't realize it at the time. :)

Message edited by author 2012-09-17 17:16:34.
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