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07/02/2012 09:42:23 AM · #1 |
My dear DPC colleagues,
I've lear a lot from this site. Altough I don't came here as often as in the past I always like to return here for advice and to see how things are going (I might even start entering challenges again).
Less that on eyear ago I started to thing in giving stock a chance and trying to hearn some moeny, as a side job from it. I do some other type of photo jobs also from time to time and I dicided to give this a go.
I am "seroius" in 5 stock sites (Shutterstock, Fotolia, Dreamstime, Canstockphoto and Depositphotos) although I also have photos in some mode, I stoped uploading to them. I had a problem with my model releases fr Istock, but Ill be uploading to them more seriously soon.
My objectives that I had established last year where to get about 500 images online and to get about 100$ per month with them. Until now I didn't acoumplish none of this. i recognise that my photos are not tipical stock photos, so I guess this means more images to do the same money that others might be doing. Even so, and with 405 photos accepted in Shuterstock, that is from far the best selling site for me, ehre are my toughts and analysis:
To simplify things a bit I will only take in account Fotolia, Shytterstock and Dreamstime as th eother sales are only marginal. To be onest the only significant sales are with Suttherstock, and the other ones are just too low to even compare. Only Fotolia is tarting to pick up some sales.
As you can see in the prevoius graphic, Fotolia is the less egigent and where I have the mode portfolio aproved, followed by Shutterstock. So if I had to choose only on site to put my files it would be clearly Shutterstock. I don't get why Dreanstime i sso picky sometimes, specially for the sales I have.
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In the second graph you can see that Shutterstock is the site where I have more downloads per portfolio photos (almost a 1/1 ratio) and the others are well behind with 0.17 (fotolia) and 0.12 (Dreamstime) downloads/photos in portfolio. This is sinse I started uploading, so this might change when I start to procude more stock oriented photos.
One rather interesting issue is the feeling that I had that Shutterstok was giving me more moeny per download, in average, so I did some statistic work and I was surprised! Dreamstime is on top with an average of 0.57$ per download, while Fotolia is paying me 0.43$ and Shutterstock is 0.39$ in average. Interesting.
Shutterstock Portfolio
Here you have a link to my shutterstock portfolio if you want to take a peek and comment.
Please feel free to share your thoughts and personal experience or just give a comment on my portfolio.
Best regards to you all,
Nuno
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07/02/2012 09:43:50 AM · #2 |
Those two links that are now working are from a google doc. Can someone halp me fix the links?
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07/02/2012 02:54:55 PM · #3 |
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07/02/2012 04:38:00 PM · #4 |
I think your portfolio looks good. I might diversify a bit if you want to see more sales. You have a lot of the same pose different model. Which is probably why you are having a hard time with dreamstime, they are really strict about similars.
I am having good success with stock, after 6 months I am seeing my sales increase at shutterstock every month. I reached payout after 2 months there and have made payout every month and quite a bit more ever since then. My goal is to reach $500 in sales on shutterstock a month by the end of the year and by the way things are going I should easily make my goal.
Like you said sales are much slower for the other sites, Istock and Dreamstime are neck in neck for me, followed closely by fotolia and 123RF. Then a couple that don't do as well but I keep uploading because I do get occasional sales are deposit and canstock.
Istock and Dreamstime's payout is $100 and I am nearly there, fotolia and 123rf are $50 and I just got my first payout. It will be a few months before I get a payout of $50 from either deposit or canstock. So as you can see there is a huge difference in sites. If anyone is thinking of doing stock start at shutterstock first otherwise you will be dissapointed.
Here is my portfolio on shutterstock for anyone interested:
My Shutterstock Portfolio
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07/02/2012 05:12:51 PM · #5 |
curious your opinion of iStockphoto.
thanks,
jim
Originally posted by Nuno:
My dear DPC colleagues,
I've lear a lot from this site. Altough I don't came here as often as in the past I always like to return here for advice and to see how things are going (I might even start entering challenges again).
Less that on eyear ago I started to thing in giving stock a chance and trying to hearn some moeny, as a side job from it. I do some other type of photo jobs also from time to time and I dicided to give this a go.
I am "seroius" in 5 stock sites (Shutterstock, Fotolia, Dreamstime, Canstockphoto and Depositphotos) although I also have photos in some mode, I stoped uploading to them. I had a problem with my model releases fr Istock, but Ill be uploading to them more seriously soon.
My objectives that I had established last year where to get about 500 images online and to get about 100$ per month with them. Until now I didn't acoumplish none of this. i recognise that my photos are not tipical stock photos, so I guess this means more images to do the same money that others might be doing. Even so, and with 405 photos accepted in Shuterstock, that is from far the best selling site for me, ehre are my toughts and analysis:
To simplify things a bit I will only take in account Fotolia, Shytterstock and Dreamstime as th eother sales are only marginal. To be onest the only significant sales are with Suttherstock, and the other ones are just too low to even compare. Only Fotolia is tarting to pick up some sales.
As you can see in the prevoius graphic, Fotolia is the less egigent and where I have the mode portfolio aproved, followed by Shutterstock. So if I had to choose only on site to put my files it would be clearly Shutterstock. I don't get why Dreanstime i sso picky sometimes, specially for the sales I have.
[img][/img]
In the second graph you can see that Shutterstock is the site where I have more downloads per portfolio photos (almost a 1/1 ratio) and the others are well behind with 0.17 (fotolia) and 0.12 (Dreamstime) downloads/photos in portfolio. This is sinse I started uploading, so this might change when I start to procude more stock oriented photos.
One rather interesting issue is the feeling that I had that Shutterstok was giving me more moeny per download, in average, so I did some statistic work and I was surprised! Dreamstime is on top with an average of 0.57$ per download, while Fotolia is paying me 0.43$ and Shutterstock is 0.39$ in average. Interesting.
Shutterstock Portfolio
Here you have a link to my shutterstock portfolio if you want to take a peek and comment.
Please feel free to share your thoughts and personal experience or just give a comment on my portfolio.
Best regards to you all,
Nuno |
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07/02/2012 05:33:07 PM · #6 |
Istock seems to still be good on sales if you can get your photos accepted. They are a big pain in the behind with so many thing that I haven't really gotten many photos uploaded to my portfolio there yet.
Here are a list of complaints I have with them:
1. uploading 1 photo at a time is such a pain
2. their keywording system is tedious it takes about 5 min per photo to submit,(most weeks I just don't have time) and then you find out you accidentally left one in that you shouldn't have and it gets rejected.
3. they are sooooo picky about everything that it is hard to get anything accepted, and I thought shutterstock was hard.
4. If you not exclusive they don't pay you very much per download, although I have had some good sales over there too.
5. you can only upload 18 a week, seriously only 18! But I guess if each photo takes 5 min to upload and keyword then who has time for more than 18. |
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07/02/2012 07:02:05 PM · #7 |
... this latest from Alamy:
Alamy publish report following round table discussion featuring key industry figures
Originally posted by Article Abstract:
The stock image industry has to challenge the status quo of the current pricing and licensing models if it wants to be fit for purpose for 21st century image use
Alamy publish report following round table discussion featuring key industry figures
28th June 2012 |
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07/02/2012 07:31:13 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
... this latest from Alamy:
Alamy publish report following round table discussion featuring key industry figures
Originally posted by Article Abstract:
The stock image industry has to challenge the status quo of the current pricing and licensing models if it wants to be fit for purpose for 21st century image use
Alamy publish report following round table discussion featuring key industry figures
28th June 2012 |
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Seems like Shutterstock has already answered most of the problems they say they're having. What's surprising is that it's taking until 2012 for Alamy to figure out that traditional stock is on the way out. That's about eight years too late. I don't submit to Alamy, actually I tried at first never got a sale. I think Alamy is on the way out unless they change. |
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07/02/2012 07:54:36 PM · #9 |
| Jen I have a question for you. When you submitt your shots do they become sole copyright of that site? IE I can not print and sell them anywhere else? |
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07/02/2012 08:07:56 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by littlemav:
Jen I have a question for you. When you submitt your shots do they become sole copyright of that site? IE I can not print and sell them anywhere else? |
No, unless someone contacts you and wants to buy exclusive rights to the photo (which happens occasionally and is like hitting the jackpot) It is yours, you own it and can do anything you want with it. The people who buy the images on stock site however have rules about how they can use the photo such as the number of prints that can be made of the photo and so on. |
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07/03/2012 02:42:21 PM · #11 |
If you submit to iStock the DeepMeta tool //www.deepmeta.com/ will help you with some of the problems. Specially with the upload and the keywording system.
Originally posted by sjhuls:
Istock seems to still be good on sales if you can get your photos accepted. They are a big pain in the behind with so many thing that I haven't really gotten many photos uploaded to my portfolio there yet.
Here are a list of complaints I have with them:
1. uploading 1 photo at a time is such a pain
2. their keywording system is tedious it takes about 5 min per photo to submit,(most weeks I just don't have time) and then you find out you accidentally left one in that you shouldn't have and it gets rejected.
3. they are sooooo picky about everything that it is hard to get anything accepted, and I thought shutterstock was hard.
4. If you not exclusive they don't pay you very much per download, although I have had some good sales over there too.
5. you can only upload 18 a week, seriously only 18! But I guess if each photo takes 5 min to upload and keyword then who has time for more than 18. |
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