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05/08/2012 10:42:35 AM · #1
Description: Your photo must be made up of two or more copies of the same photo flipped to create a symmetrical image.
Rules: Advanced
Extra rule: You MUST use two or more copies of the same photo, using the same crop for each copy.

Examples:
//www.flickr.com/photos/villarhapsody/2523224813/
//www.flickr.com/photos/etavonni/9244022/
Or this guy's collection of Beautiful Mutants.
02/15/2013 01:25:29 AM · #2
awesome! I'm excited for this!

Clarification: Only one photo flipped, is that the understanding? So basically advanced editing, only you are allowed to flip it?
02/15/2013 04:45:52 AM · #3
Wow, one of my suggestions was actually picked. Now I'll have to find something to enter.

I never showed my own examples in case I wanted to reshoot them, but I don't think I'll get to the right place.
02/15/2013 09:07:37 AM · #4
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These can be a lot of fun to do, & fun to look at. Good Idea! Glad they changed it to Expert.

Message edited by author 2013-02-15 09:09:05.
02/15/2013 01:35:20 PM · #5
I'm not going to enter, but I have been doing a bunch of this stuff lately, all my myself! While these images don't always adhere to the rules, maybe you'll find something inspirational in them. :)

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Phalaenoponealahp 1 by PKMousie, on Flickr

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Phalaenoponealahp 2 by PKMousie, on Flickr

And now the freaky ones:

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Zeralien 4 by PKMousie, on Flickr

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Lauralien 2 by PKMousie, on Flickr

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Rudalien 4 by PKMousie, on Flickr

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Aliengst 1 by PKMousie, on Flickr

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Fenalien 2 by PKMousie, on Flickr

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Pealien 4 by PKMousie, on Flickr

There's lots more weird, mostly symmetrical puppies at:

//insanelytwisteddogs.tumblr.com :)

You can follow my 'best of' Tumblr too, if you like... //wunderkemmer.tumblr.com!

<3 symmetry!
02/15/2013 01:44:29 PM · #6
are ewe allow to modify one of mirrored images independent of the other?
02/15/2013 01:49:11 PM · #7
Originally posted by mike_311:

are ewe allow to modify one of mirrored images independent of the other?

Sheep have a hard time using Photoshop, and are not allowed to become members anyway ... ;-)

I think the two sides are supposed to be mirror images -- that's the point of "symmetry" -- I think editing the two sides differently defeats the purpose of the challenge.
02/15/2013 02:38:40 PM · #8
Originally posted by mike_311:

are ewe allow to modify one of mirrored images independent of the other?


I have a similar question, Are we allowed to expert edit our image, photoshop the crap out of it, and then start flipping that single pre-edited image?
02/15/2013 02:56:08 PM · #9
Originally posted by Sebi:

Originally posted by mike_311:

are ewe allow to modify one of mirrored images independent of the other?


I have a similar question, Are we allowed to expert edit our image, photoshop the crap out of it, and then start flipping that single pre-edited image?

Why not?
02/15/2013 03:00:51 PM · #10
Related question... Can the symmetry be produced by using a "mirror image" effect in a photo pp program, instead of making two copies of the same image and pasting them side by side using pp?
02/15/2013 03:09:48 PM · #11
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Sebi:

Originally posted by mike_311:

are ewe allow to modify one of mirrored images independent of the other?


I have a similar question, Are we allowed to expert edit our image, photoshop the crap out of it, and then start flipping that single pre-edited image?

Why not?


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02/15/2013 03:22:34 PM · #12
Originally posted by mefnj:

Related question... Can the symmetry be produced by using a "mirror image" effect in a photo pp program, instead of making two copies of the same image and pasting them side by side using pp?

Why not?
02/15/2013 07:47:19 PM · #13
Here's one I did long time ago;Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_86102.jpg
02/15/2013 08:42:44 PM · #14
I always called this "kaleidoscoping".
02/15/2013 09:13:35 PM · #15
Originally posted by GeneralE:


Sheep have a hard time using Photoshop, and are not allowed to become members anyway ... ;-)


I will boycott this challenge in support of the rights of sheep to enter this or any other challenge.

Sure you hear people say "Those guys are just sheep, they just follow along, never thinking for themselves" but I say "What about the black sheep? Bold individuals who stand apart form the flock, free independant thinkers."

Full rights for our ovine brothers! If they can get on the internet why should we bar their becoming members?

Fight discrimination in all its forms!
02/15/2013 09:51:33 PM · #16
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I wonder. Someone has to ask. I wonder if a flip'n'blend is legal? It's symmetrical.
No sheep were harmed in the PP of this image.

Message edited by author 2013-02-15 21:51:58.
02/15/2013 09:55:08 PM · #17
Originally posted by pixelpig:

I wonder. Someone has to ask. I wonder if a flip'n'blend is legal? It's symmetrical.

For the third time, "why not?"

In fact, "legality" is irrelevant, it's just whether the voters will think it meets the challenge description, and to that I say, again, "Why not?" :-)
02/15/2013 10:24:33 PM · #18
Originally posted by pixelpig:

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I wonder. Someone has to ask. I wonder if a flip'n'blend is legal? It's symmetrical.
No sheep were harmed in the PP of this image.


What is flip'n'blend, please? I don't have sheep.
02/15/2013 10:31:14 PM · #19
It was a side challenge!
02/15/2013 10:45:53 PM · #20
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by pixelpig:

I wonder. Someone has to ask. I wonder if a flip'n'blend is legal? It's symmetrical.

For the third time, "why not?"

In fact, "legality" is irrelevant, it's just whether the voters will think it meets the challenge description, and to that I say, again, "Why not?" :-)


I had that question originally too but I didn't get the "why not" brigade. :P lol. I guess for me, the description seemed like maybe the intent was for one image (originally posed as an advanced editing challenge with a special rule set). So I guess it comes down to if you consider 'image' to mean a single exposure or a single composition.

The way you put it makes sense though. :)
02/15/2013 11:04:30 PM · #21
Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Originally posted by GeneralE:


Sheep have a hard time using Photoshop, and are not allowed to become members anyway ... ;-)


I will boycott this challenge in support of the rights of sheep to enter this or any other challenge.

Sure you hear people say "Those guys are just sheep, they just follow along, never thinking for themselves" but I say "What about the black sheep? Bold individuals who stand apart form the flock, free independent thinkers."

Full rights for our ovine brothers! If they can get on the internet why should we bar their becoming members?

Fight discrimination in all its forms!

Ah, but you know the old saying:
"Baa, baa black sheep!"
we all know those who coined the saying were New Englanders who lost their 'r's.
therefore, Bar the Black sheep, I say!
02/15/2013 11:47:55 PM · #22
Originally posted by escapetooz:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by pixelpig:

I wonder. Someone has to ask. I wonder if a flip'n'blend is legal? It's symmetrical.

For the third time, "why not?"

In fact, "legality" is irrelevant, it's just whether the voters will think it meets the challenge description, and to that I say, again, "Why not?" :-)


I had that question originally too but I didn't get the "why not" brigade. :P lol. I guess for me, the description seemed like maybe the intent was for one image (originally posed as an advanced editing challenge with a special rule set). So I guess it comes down to if you consider 'image' to mean a single exposure or a single composition.

The way you put it makes sense though. :)


I did have a doubt.

The description for the challenge seems to say that you can take your image, copy it, flip it, & paste it back in after you have increased the canvas size to make room for it, to create a perfectly symmetrical image.

But you can also get a perfectly symmetrical image if you copy it, flip it, paste it back in as a new layer (without increasing the canvas size), & blend on difference.

Both results are symmetrical, but they don't look anything alike. The first is surreal. The second is abstract. The first one creates a duplicate of the image, mirrored. The second creates a whole new image.

To answer your question, yes. One photo, flipped.

Message edited by author 2013-02-15 23:53:42.
02/16/2013 12:43:28 AM · #23
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02/16/2013 06:32:05 AM · #24
Being a dairy farmer's granddaughter, I first read this challenge as Artificial Insemination.
02/16/2013 07:36:14 PM · #25
As this challenge was my suggestion, I will say that flip and blend certainly wasn't what I had in mind. Whether it is legal or not given that the challenge is under expert editing, I'm not sure.
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