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03/23/2012 10:08:33 AM · #51
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Perhaps the challenge description should have read "camera must be handheld".


good luck pulling that out of the exif.

;)
03/23/2012 10:08:48 AM · #52
as much as I rage against threads which attempt to define how to vote or what meets the challenge...

This challenge does not actually require closing your eyes and shooting. It requires closing the "eye" that looks to find sharp, technically set-up, perfectly exposed, contrived shots which are designed to "score well" here normally.

This all stems from someone asking "how can I make my shot "be better?"

The response was, "score higher or be better?"

and after a pause, Posthumous said, prophetically, "go take a hundred shots blindfolded and pick the best one"

I know its weird but it was very "religious"- almost like the parable of story of healing the blind man "spiritually" and the blind man saying "i still can't see" and then the healer saying- "you don't see with your eyes." - but since you are not convinced, I will physically heal you as well.

Its an ironic twist, all these flashy photographers see- but they are really "blind."
I have seen but been blind for years, I don't need to close my eyes to shoot.

Don't take everything literally, close your "scoring viability eyes" and open your inner eye to a shot based upon feel, passion, hate- anything- just not upon fancy equipment and accepted norms of photographic behavior.

Thats my take on it, silly as it may be.
03/23/2012 10:50:01 AM · #53
Wait, I'm not supposed to keep my eyes shut for my previous entries??? THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING WRONG....
03/23/2012 10:58:21 AM · #54
Originally posted by blindjustice:

This challenge does not actually require closing your eyes and shooting. It requires closing the "eye" that looks to find sharp, technically set-up, perfectly exposed, contrived shots which are designed to "score well" here normally.

So it's another Art of 2011 challenge? Now I'm really confused.

Why don't we really call it what it's going to be, Free Study 2012 - Week of March 22-29? At least that would save a lot of the confusion floating around.

CS
03/23/2012 11:12:18 AM · #55
Originally posted by cosmicassassin:

Originally posted by blindjustice:

This challenge does not actually require closing your eyes and shooting. It requires closing the "eye" that looks to find sharp, technically set-up, perfectly exposed, contrived shots which are designed to "score well" here normally.

So it's another Art of 2011 challenge? Now I'm really confused.

Why don't we really call it what it's going to be, Free Study 2012 - Week of March 22-29? At least that would save a lot of the confusion floating around.

CS


the confusion is the point
03/23/2012 11:16:43 AM · #56
I'm thinking this challenge works nicely for a road trip I am about to embark on. I haven't even had a full weekend off since the fall, and now I get three whole days off!

My initial thought for this challenge is to keep a special memory card to pop in my camera at various points along my journey to shoot blind with along the way. Then I will simply stop adding when the image count reaches 100.

Another thought is to do all captures with my iPad for this challenge, and then process them with and submit from the iPad. Could be fun! Or not once the voting begins... :-/
03/23/2012 11:25:19 AM · #57
Originally posted by posthumous:


the confusion is the point


also should be a tshirt.
03/23/2012 11:33:52 AM · #58
My iPhone 4S will work well for this. Often, I ask myself if my eyes were closed when I captured an image.

03/23/2012 11:52:52 AM · #59
Originally posted by blindjustice:

as much as I rage against threads which attempt to define how to vote or what meets the challenge...

This challenge does not actually require closing your eyes and shooting. It requires closing the "eye" that looks to find sharp, technically set-up, perfectly exposed, contrived shots which are designed to "score well" here normally.

This all stems from someone asking "how can I make my shot "be better?"

The response was, "score higher or be better?"

and after a pause, Posthumous said, prophetically, "go take a hundred shots blindfolded and pick the best one"

I know its weird but it was very "religious"- almost like the parable of story of healing the blind man "spiritually" and the blind man saying "i still can't see" and then the healer saying- "you don't see with your eyes." - but since you are not convinced, I will physically heal you as well.

Its an ironic twist, all these flashy photographers see- but they are really "blind."
I have seen but been blind for years, I don't need to close my eyes to shoot.

Don't take everything literally, close your "scoring viability eyes" and open your inner eye to a shot based upon feel, passion, hate- anything- just not upon fancy equipment and accepted norms of photographic behavior.

Thats my take on it, silly as it may be.


+1
also,
"Like"

I am impressed by how strongly photographers seem to feel about premeditating/previsualizing the shot. The right lens, manual settings, cable shutter release, mirror lockup, tripod, making an effort to be at the predetermined right place at the predetermined right time, knowing the photographer's ephemeris by heart. There seems to be a high value placed on getting the shot to turn out the way the photographer has decided it should look. These photographers will do all that, & then technically close their eyes before they press the shutter release. Which is OK.

I like this challenge. Use your third eye to take the shot, the inner eye, shoot on impulse, when it feels good. Ignore the viewfinder. It's possible to feel the light on your skin. Interesting shots are all around, all the time, each instant of light is unique...ooh look, something shiny!
03/23/2012 12:06:04 PM · #60
A question, based on some of the posted opinions of what fits this concept:

I carry my G11 with me when I ride my bike and have gotten pretty decent at taking pics while riding. I actually refer to it as "shooting blind". Though my eyes are open, I am just pointing the camera in the general direction of the subject without using the viewfinder or screen to frame it. So, does this fit?

Examples shot this way, from just the other day:
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03/23/2012 12:22:48 PM · #61
I do this whenever I walk around NYC. It's challenging, but fun. I don't know how we can be sure the entry was taken without looking... Cant one just set up the shot on a tripod and them click the shutter with your eyes closed?? I don't get it..

ETA: My "eyes were closed" when I wrote this..

Message edited by author 2012-03-23 16:51:00.
03/23/2012 12:27:34 PM · #62
Sounds fun, I'll give it a go and I'll respect the spirit of the challenge, might even have a few spirits before hand, could that be the secret recipe for the blue here ?
03/23/2012 12:31:37 PM · #63
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

A question, based on some of the posted opinions of what fits this concept:

I carry my G11 with me when I ride my bike and have gotten pretty decent at taking pics while riding. I actually refer to it as "shooting blind". Though my eyes are open, I am just pointing the camera in the general direction of the subject without using the viewfinder or screen to frame it. So, does this fit?

Examples shot this way, from just the other day:
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I've often shot blind too, in exacly the same way, when there is just no way in hell you can look through the viewfinder to frame the shot. You get your settings and shoot.
03/23/2012 12:35:35 PM · #64
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

A question, based on some of the posted opinions of what fits this concept:

I carry my G11 with me when I ride my bike and have gotten pretty decent at taking pics while riding. I actually refer to it as "shooting blind". Though my eyes are open, I am just pointing the camera in the general direction of the subject without using the viewfinder or screen to frame it. So, does this fit?

I do (or did more in the past) a similar technique in the car, even to create stitched panoramics ...
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But to answerr your question, no I don't think it meets the spirit of the challenge -- I find I'm pretty predictive in my framing when shooting by this "dead-reckoning" technique ... the description says "eyes closed" which is rather (unusually) specific ... and somehow I can't support bike-riding (or driving) with closed eyes ... :-(
03/23/2012 12:48:47 PM · #65
Originally posted by cutout:

getting RIPPED out of your comfort zone might be a bit painful
sorry darlings, no esthetically high highfaluting monstrosity`s this time
put away your technique
and start having fun


Why is hitting your camera button 100 times without looking more fun than composing photos? I figures since this site is full of photographers, they would enjoy taking pictures the classic way (that is, looking at what you're composing), but hey, I'm not an arty high brow type so what do I know.
03/23/2012 01:02:18 PM · #66
Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:

Originally posted by cutout:

getting RIPPED out of your comfort zone might be a bit painful
sorry darlings, no esthetically high highfaluting monstrosity`s this time
put away your technique
and start having fun


Why is hitting your camera button 100 times without looking more fun than composing photos? I figures since this site is full of photographers, they would enjoy taking pictures the classic way (that is, looking at what you're composing), but hey, I'm not an arty high brow type so what do I know.


so this challenge is most likely not for you
thats alright :)
03/23/2012 01:13:48 PM · #67
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

A question, based on some of the posted opinions of what fits this concept:

I carry my G11 with me when I ride my bike and have gotten pretty decent at taking pics while riding. I actually refer to it as "shooting blind". Though my eyes are open, I am just pointing the camera in the general direction of the subject without using the viewfinder or screen to frame it. So, does this fit?

Examples shot this way, from just the other day:
Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_1005893.jpg Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_1005897.jpg


DNMC, horizon too straight.

;)
03/23/2012 01:28:43 PM · #68
Originally posted by posthumous:

DNMC, horizon too straight.
;)

Actually, the pic on the left didn't require any straightening. But I do understand that if someone gets lucky with a well composed and straight shot, others may presume it wasn't shot in accordance with the challenge specs.
03/23/2012 01:33:48 PM · #69
Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:

Originally posted by cutout:

getting RIPPED out of your comfort zone might be a bit painful
sorry darlings, no esthetically high highfaluting monstrosity`s this time
put away your technique
and start having fun


Why is hitting your camera button 100 times without looking more fun than composing photos? I figures since this site is full of photographers, they would enjoy taking pictures the classic way (that is, looking at what you're composing), but hey, I'm not an arty high brow type so what do I know.


Once in awhile a challenge that's pure luck does no harm, it will be intresting to see what we can come up with unintentionally. One must be ready to accept a crap score to enter this one though.
03/23/2012 01:36:39 PM · #70
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by posthumous:

DNMC, horizon too straight.
;)

Actually, the pic on the left didn't require any straightening. But I do understand that if someone gets lucky with a well composed and straight shot, others may presume it wasn't shot in accordance with the challenge specs.

Thus the true challenge.
03/23/2012 01:37:34 PM · #71
bump
Originally posted by blindjustice:

as much as I rage against threads which attempt to define how to vote or what meets the challenge...

This challenge does not actually require closing your eyes and shooting. It requires closing the "eye" that looks to find sharp, technically set-up, perfectly exposed, contrived shots which are designed to "score well" here normally.

This all stems from someone asking "how can I make my shot "be better?"

The response was, "score higher or be better?"

and after a pause, Posthumous said, prophetically, "go take a hundred shots blindfolded and pick the best one"

I know its weird but it was very "religious"- almost like the parable of story of healing the blind man "spiritually" and the blind man saying "i still can't see" and then the healer saying- "you don't see with your eyes." - but since you are not convinced, I will physically heal you as well.

Its an ironic twist, all these flashy photographers see- but they are really "blind."
I have seen but been blind for years, I don't need to close my eyes to shoot.

Don't take everything literally, close your "scoring viability eyes" and open your inner eye to a shot based upon feel, passion, hate- anything- just not upon fancy equipment and accepted norms of photographic behavior.

Thats my take on it, silly as it may be.
03/23/2012 01:42:01 PM · #72
No matter how I compos, its never get straight. So I shot blindly all the time.

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03/23/2012 01:46:25 PM · #73
Originally posted by mariuca:

bump
Originally posted by blindjustice:

as much as I rage against threads which attempt to define how to vote or what meets the challenge...

This challenge does not actually require closing your eyes and shooting. It requires closing the "eye" that looks to find sharp, technically set-up, perfectly exposed, contrived shots which are designed to "score well" here normally.

This all stems from someone asking "how can I make my shot "be better?"

The response was, "score higher or be better?"

and after a pause, Posthumous said, prophetically, "go take a hundred shots blindfolded and pick the best one"

I know its weird but it was very "religious"- almost like the parable of story of healing the blind man "spiritually" and the blind man saying "i still can't see" and then the healer saying- "you don't see with your eyes." - but since you are not convinced, I will physically heal you as well.

Its an ironic twist, all these flashy photographers see- but they are really "blind."
I have seen but been blind for years, I don't need to close my eyes to shoot.

Don't take everything literally, close your "scoring viability eyes" and open your inner eye to a shot based upon feel, passion, hate- anything- just not upon fancy equipment and accepted norms of photographic behavior.

Thats my take on it, silly as it may be.

love you
03/23/2012 02:14:56 PM · #74
Originally posted by cutout:

Originally posted by mariuca:

bump
Originally posted by blindjustice:

as much as I rage against threads which attempt to define how to vote or what meets the challenge...

This challenge does not actually require closing your eyes and shooting. It requires closing the "eye" that looks to find sharp, technically set-up, perfectly exposed, contrived shots which are designed to "score well" here normally.

This all stems from someone asking "how can I make my shot "be better?"

The response was, "score higher or be better?"

and after a pause, Posthumous said, prophetically, "go take a hundred shots blindfolded and pick the best one"

I know its weird but it was very "religious"- almost like the parable of story of healing the blind man "spiritually" and the blind man saying "i still can't see" and then the healer saying- "you don't see with your eyes." - but since you are not convinced, I will physically heal you as well.

Its an ironic twist, all these flashy photographers see- but they are really "blind."
I have seen but been blind for years, I don't need to close my eyes to shoot.

Don't take everything literally, close your "scoring viability eyes" and open your inner eye to a shot based upon feel, passion, hate- anything- just not upon fancy equipment and accepted norms of photographic behavior.

Thats my take on it, silly as it may be.

love you


Beautiful words Paul!

I'm very happy that this idea was chosen (when I saw that Don really went with this and suggested it as a challenge, I wasn't sure if he was mocking me or not :) )

Today I went with my camera in the neighborhood, tried to capture photos using everything I got except the sense of sight.
It was a very interesting experience, and I really liked some of the photos that I got.
BTW, the first 100 pictures are only to warm up ;)

Here are few of today's "random captures" that I got (of course, I wont submit them to the challenge, they are just for the fun of it)
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03/23/2012 02:19:36 PM · #75
Originally posted by KfirLevAri:



Today I went with my camera in the neighborhood, tried to capture photos using everything I got except the sense of sight.
It was a very interesting experience, and I really liked some of the photos that I got.
BTW, the first 100 pictures are only to warm up ;)

Here are few of today's "random captures" that I got (of course, I wont submit them to the challenge, they are just for the fun of it)
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LOVE THESE! They are truly beautiful! Just a glimpse of what to expect in the challenge. I hope too many people don't try and "fix" their photo with overdoing the editing. Great shots!
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