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03/15/2012 11:48:23 PM · #1 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
One feature I see they have kept is the mysterious "direct print" feature, so you can hook this bad boy up to your home printer and crank out the prints without any messy editing. Has anyone ever used this feature? |
I presume that's used by people shooting "events" and offering on-site print sales? I'd have thought swapping cards and downloading was more efficient, but I may be missing something...
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03/15/2012 10:40:29 PM · #2 |
| One feature I see they have kept is the mysterious "direct print" feature, so you can hook this bad boy up to your home printer and crank out the prints without any messy editing. Has anyone ever used this feature? |
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03/15/2012 07:56:39 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by Medoomi:
I'm looking at the FAQ on page 183... How do you read it?
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Yep, I read it the same way you did. You get the same image type for multi-image as what you had selected for single image capture... with the exception of SRAW+JPEG or MRAW+JPEG where you get RAW+JPEG. |
Thanks kirbic... It's definitely raised my expectations of what the mk3 can do. Sounds like they've done most things right this time around... |
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03/15/2012 07:50:57 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Medoomi:
I'm looking at the FAQ on page 183... How do you read it?
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Yep, I read it the same way you did. You get the same image type for multi-image as what you had selected for single image capture... with the exception of SRAW+JPEG or MRAW+JPEG where you get RAW+JPEG.
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03/15/2012 07:12:40 PM · #5 |
Soooo.... am I reading the Canon 5D mark 3 manual correctly? ... From the looks of it, the camera can record HDR *into* a RAW file. Everything I had read previously said that the resultant file would be a jpeg (recording into an 8-bit jpeg certainly *seemed* asinine as an only option, but that's what I was led to believe).
Here's the new manual.
I'm looking at the FAQ on page 183... How do you read it?
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oooh, and there's an option in the customization menus, to disable the full time focus drive on lenses like the 85 1.2L when the focus button is held. I can't say how many times I've stuffed up the focus on the 85 because the focus drive stays active on the full time manual focus ring... :-(
Message edited by author 2012-03-15 19:36:02. |
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03/04/2012 11:32:49 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
I like old fashioned too. For example I have recently eschewed computers and am now surfing the web on my slide rule. |
HA!
Some of the improvements I am for, very strongly... Like, ISO, Pixel Resolution, Fast image processors, AF points, Better Metering, durability, new glasses in new lenses... but all goes into basic category with improvements, not adding new items into it. |
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03/04/2012 11:27:37 AM · #7 |
I like old fashioned too. For example I have recently eschewed computers and am now surfing the web on my slide rule.
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03/04/2012 11:14:49 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
...I think that's a bit of a naive view - many of us will buy new things, not because they are new but because we would get value from the new feature set... |
If I help my 14 years young son how to spell things, or help a new pro photographer how to adjust their ISO settings and why, I think there is something wrong with the new and improved stuff we're having lately... some of you probably know what I mean, and why I am against the new and improved stuff without understanding and learning the basics. Way too many options mean way too many other things to look at instead of the basics. |
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03/04/2012 11:04:03 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Originally posted by ancientimages:
... Perhaps you should take a peek at this... |
Actually I heard that Act Of Valor was filmed with a Canon... however, it's not what I was trying to be sarcastic about. No camera brand but all... First, I am totaly against vido on a DSLR camera, which should be used only for still shoot. but since they made them this way, people take advantage, that's perfectly fine.
I call myself a photographer, not filmographer... I want to learn how to take photos instead of camera deciding what should I do... if anything at all.
give a sample, once they had Word for typing text only, and started to include spell checker and all that, fine... it's like having a DSLR camera with live view option... but, once they included a "Web Designer", which Front Page or other web designer programs for, I disliked it because all that stuff in it, beat the purpose. I never used it anyways, but it was there. Same as video recorder in a DSLR.
I know I can't win this, but I can make points... I sense that some of you feel the same, but want to go with the crowd, accepting new stuff... I don't, or very difficult for me to do. "old fashion", "things were used to" make me feel better inside, I don't have to force myself to like everything comes out new. |
I think that's a bit of a naive view - many of us will buy new things, not because they are new but because we would get value from the new feature set. Sure, normally we only use a subset of those features, but so what? By including many features, the manufacturer makes its product relevant to a wider range of people (each may only use a fraction of the feature set but together they have broad needs and wants) and as a consequence the greater sales can justify their R&D. Of course, some manufacturers keep it simple, concentrate on 'just the photography' and sell us high quality products that aren't over-complex - but then look at the price of a Leica M9... |
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03/04/2012 10:47:43 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by ancientimages:
... Perhaps you should take a peek at this... |
Actually I heard that Act Of Valor was filmed with a Canon... however, it's not what I was trying to be sarcastic about. No camera brand but all... First, I am totaly against vido on a DSLR camera, which should be used only for still shoot. but since they made them this way, people take advantage, that's perfectly fine.
I call myself a photographer, not filmographer... I want to learn how to take photos instead of camera deciding what should I do... if anything at all.
give a sample, once they had Word for typing text only, and started to include spell checker and all that, fine... it's like having a DSLR camera with live view option... but, once they included a "Web Designer", which Front Page or other web designer programs for, I disliked it because all that stuff in it, beat the purpose. I never used it anyways, but it was there. Same as video recorder in a DSLR.
I know I can't win this, but I can make points... I sense that some of you feel the same, but want to go with the crowd, accepting new stuff... I don't, or very difficult for me to do. "old fashion", "things were used to" make me feel better inside, I don't have to force myself to like everything comes out new. |
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03/04/2012 10:37:36 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Canon 5D Mark III
- Auto focus is faster than 550 horse power Ferrari
- 1,258 AF points, nothing missed on the face to focus, including a piece of meet stuck between her teeth
- ISO 3 million 40 thousand... You sure can take wedding photos, in a closet with no light, either bride and groom wants you there while they're banging or not.
- 100 Frame Per second to see a car flipping in the air and expression of the driver while ejecting from the car... don't miss a millisecond of it
- SHD (Super HD) movie option with AF... Oscar Guaranteed results. On the dial, there is a "Porn" option to avoid sweat on the view finder.
- 67 thousand menu option. You can adjust everything and everything in it with very sensitive measurements... yet, camera does it all for you automatically if you select "A"
- Radar detector. Finally someone thought about that. Just put the camera on your dashboard, and stop those speed tickets.
- WiFi option to send text messages from one camera to any phone.
- 23 inch screen in the back to chimp around much easier.
- Touchscreen image editor. You can get rid of all the hair on her face, before it gets out of the camera.
- Toaster option with Jelly dispenser next to 5 built in memory card holder.
- Comes in 8 colors, including pink and shit color
Remember, they all are thinking about YOU photographers ;)
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Sarcasm is not for Canon only, but all new cameras coming out every other month now. This is a pee contest, who can pee farther. Love your current camera and learn how to take good photos instead. |
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Perhaps you should take a peek at this....
Oops! Really, Nikon?
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03/04/2012 10:08:22 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Canon 5D Mark III
- Auto focus is faster than 550 horse power Ferrari
- 1,258 AF points, nothing missed on the face to focus, including a piece of meet stuck between her teeth
- ISO 3 million 40 thousand... You sure can take wedding photos, in a closet with no light, either bride and groom wants you there while they're banging or not.
- 100 Frame Per second to see a car flipping in the air and expression of the driver while ejecting from the car... don't miss a millisecond of it
- SHD (Super HD) movie option with AF... Oscar Guaranteed results. On the dial, there is a "Porn" option to avoid sweat on the view finder.
- 67 thousand menu option. You can adjust everything and everything in it with very sensitive measurements... yet, camera does it all for you automatically if you select "A"
- Radar detector. Finally someone thought about that. Just put the camera on your dashboard, and stop those speed tickets.
- WiFi option to send text messages from one camera to any phone.
- 23 inch screen in the back to chimp around much easier.
- Touchscreen image editor. You can get rid of all the hair on her face, before it gets out of the camera.
- Toaster option with Jelly dispenser next to 5 built in memory card holder.
- Comes in 8 colors, including pink and shit color
Remember, they all are thinking about YOU photographers ;)
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Sarcasm is not for Canon only, but all new cameras coming out every other month now. This is a pee contest, who can pee farther. Love your current camera and learn how to take good photos instead. |
Nice one. |
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03/04/2012 09:36:20 AM · #13 |
| when i saw you'd posted in here i was hoping and expecting an "its not as good as my old nikon..." style post but alas nope..... :) |
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03/04/2012 08:00:57 AM · #14 |
Canon 5D Mark III
- Auto focus is faster than 550 horse power Ferrari
- 1,258 AF points, nothing missed on the face to focus, including a piece of meet stuck between her teeth
- ISO 3 million 40 thousand... You sure can take wedding photos, in a closet with no light, either bride and groom wants you there while they're banging or not.
- 100 Frame Per second to see a car flipping in the air and expression of the driver while ejecting from the car... don't miss a millisecond of it
- SHD (Super HD) movie option with AF... Oscar Guaranteed results. On the dial, there is a "Porn" option to avoid sweat on the view finder.
- 67 thousand menu option. You can adjust everything and everything in it with very sensitive measurements... yet, camera does it all for you automatically if you select "A"
- Radar detector. Finally someone thought about that. Just put the camera on your dashboard, and stop those speed tickets.
- WiFi option to send text messages from one camera to any phone.
- 23 inch screen in the back to chimp around much easier.
- Touchscreen image editor. You can get rid of all the hair on her face, before it gets out of the camera.
- Toaster option with Jelly dispenser next to 5 built in memory card holder.
- Comes in 8 colors, including pink and shit color
Remember, they all are thinking about YOU photographers ;)
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Sarcasm is not for Canon only, but all new cameras coming out every other month now. This is a pee contest, who can pee farther. Love your current camera and learn how to take good photos instead.
Message edited by author 2012-03-04 08:10:03. |
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03/04/2012 05:51:22 AM · #15 |
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03/02/2012 07:55:29 PM · #16 |
The mark II is a great camera. I mostly use it, with my 500 f4 L IS to shoot birds. For most situations, it has been great. But when the birds get erratic, the autofocus can let me down. Leading to oof images. Unfortunate, as these images are often the peak of action. But alas that old autofocus system! So for me, the mark III looks great! Hugely improved autofocus is a real plus to me. It seems the responsiveness of the camera is improved too. Less shutter lag and black out. Along with 6 fps. Not blazing but nice. I'm a big stickler of noise, sorry.... Usually staying at iso 800 or under. So an added performance in image quality, is another big plus to me.
So looking it all over, I took the plunge and called Henry's. preordered up a mark III and booster. So now it's just to wait. Get the call, go test it out. Then most likely pay for it and take it home.
Then sell the markII. Ahhh, good times....
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03/02/2012 07:29:25 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by macpapas:
Canon is marketing that the noise at ISO 6400 on the M3 is comparable to ISO 1600 on the M2 (a two stop difference). This is an improvement I can appreciate. |
It's a marketing "claim".
Image1 is ISO800 and looks noisy to me.
//web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos5dmk3/
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03/02/2012 05:54:30 PM · #18 |
Canon is marketing that the noise at ISO 6400 on the M3 is comparable to ISO 1600 on the M2 (a two stop difference). This is an improvement I can appreciate.
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03/02/2012 05:13:24 PM · #19 |
Yep, I took a peek at the ISO 100 and ISO 12800 files and compared color channels side-by-side. The 12800 file actually looks pretty darn good. Very good looking noise, what there is of it.
These are JPEGs and there will be some in-camera funny business, though. I will make my final judgment when I can poke at RAW files. Still, damn nice looking files.
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03/02/2012 04:47:46 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
They do look awfully damn good. Even up to ISO 12800 they look very clean. Of course, there are no 100% crops |
Btw, I just noticed that the original shots are available to download for each image. Under each image after you have clicked on them, there is a link called "original". Just click on it and download the original ones for closer inspection, if you are interested.
//www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/albums/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii-low-light-iso-samples
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03/02/2012 04:47:11 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by HawkinsT:
So... now I just have to wait 6 months and get it for current 5D II prices (I'm sure it won't be staying at rrp for long, they never do). |
Good luck with that ;-)
In general, I think that rapid price drops from the introductory price are a thing of the past. I remember when the original 5D was released, the price was $3299 USD, and by 9 months later it was more like $2700. The 5D Mk II, OTOH, did not drop in price nearly so much. If you look at street prices at introduction and 6 to 9 months later, I think you'll see that in recent years there has not been a big percentage drop.
Now, if sales are slow (they misjudged the market) then things may be different.
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03/02/2012 04:35:43 PM · #22 |
| So... now I just have to wait 6 months and get it for current 5D II prices (I'm sure it won't be staying at rrp for long, they never do). |
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03/02/2012 03:43:18 PM · #23 |
would anyone like to buy a kidney or a liver maybe a lung? only 30 years and 1 week on the clock
haha i'll be getting a mk2 if the price drops down a little now then :) |
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03/02/2012 03:33:28 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by AllenP:
I am looking at the results at ISO 3200 and 6400 in particular and if what I am seeing is really true, I must say they look incredible. |
They do look awfully damn good. Even up to ISO 12800 they look very clean. Of course, there are no 100% crops to compare, and these samples are downsized quite a bit. I'm really waiting until I can play with some RAW files in Lr. That will tell the tale.
I'm as much interested in the *character* of the noise as the amount. If it's fine-grained and has absent of banding artifacts, it will make me sit up and take notice. I know that Canon has taken some abuse on the 5DII banding, and I'm sure they paid attention to this.
ETA: I'm sure it will be weeks, perhaps a month or more before we really know how good the beast is. At that point I might ping Calumet and see whether they have any good deals going. When I bought the 5D, I got 12 months with no payment, no interest on my Calumet credit card. Spread that purchase price out over 12 months, it doesn't seem so painful! |
And a good excuse to visit chicago
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03/02/2012 03:21:52 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I told the wife this morning that if she could find a week for our family in Cuba during March break, we should do it. How do you think it would go over if I just got this new camera instead? |
Just tell her, you need to take "nicer" pictures of your vacation in Cuba and for that you will need a newer camera :) |
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