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07/29/2004 06:59:31 PM · #1 |
"All Persons who opened a PayPal account between October 1, 1999 and January 31, 2004 ...may be eligible to receive a payment from the proposed class action settlement in the lawsuit In re PayPal Litigation, Case No. 02 1227 JF PVT, pending in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California in San Jose."
"If you make a timely, valid claim using the Short Form Claim, you will receive a payment of $50 ... I understand a $1.00 charge will be deducted to cover the cost of issuing and mailing my check" |
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07/29/2004 07:00:45 PM · #2 |
| Where did you get that info? And where do I sign up?! |
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07/29/2004 07:04:52 PM · #3 |
| Yea I lost more than $50 on PayPal, I filled in and sumited my long form along with the proper documentation. Hopefully I get some kind of reimbursement. |
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07/29/2004 07:05:41 PM · #4 |
I got that email yesterday too.
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07/29/2004 07:07:20 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Where did you get that info? And where do I sign up?! |
Received info from a blog. Click on link. Don't have a PayPal account but assumed that some of the people here used it to pay for there accounts.
Fingers crossed. Hoping that with an extra $49 in peoples pockets they would invest in some prints :) |
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07/29/2004 07:17:36 PM · #6 |
| can someone tell me why we can claim this money |
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07/29/2004 07:30:57 PM · #7 |
| Cuz PayPal cheated you out of it? |
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07/29/2004 07:31:12 PM · #8 |
Read the fine print... I don't think everyone who opened a PayPal accounted between that time period gets the $50. It says:
...sign a statement under penalty of perjury, which may be verified using PayPal's records, that you experienced an unauthorized or incorrect electronic transfer or an account limitation or denial of access to your account.
(emphasis mine)
This class action settlement is to address those who filed a lawsuit claiming that PayPal violated the federal Electronic Fund Transfer Act and I'm pretty sure you have to be part of the Class to get the settlement. |
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07/29/2004 07:47:35 PM · #9 |
EddyG is right, it's not because you have a Paypal account that you can claim that $50. You need to have had problems with Paypal first.
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07/29/2004 08:17:43 PM · #10 |
The way I read it, there are two categories of claimants. The first is for those who had problems with PayPal. The second is for those who have had no problems but has an account opened during the period in question. There is a million dollars set aside for the group of claimants that have had no problems. Check into it.
Message edited by author 2004-07-30 22:08:45. |
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07/29/2004 08:24:40 PM · #11 |
| I cant understand why people how are getting a great service should get money from them because some other people are having trouble. I just can't believe that the US justice system works that way. |
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07/29/2004 08:48:39 PM · #12 |
| I had not problem with them, I'm not going to try to get that 50 even if I could!. |
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07/29/2004 09:22:28 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by oskar:
I cant understand why people how are getting a great service should get money from them because some other people are having trouble. I just can't believe that the US justice system works that way. |
Dude! Us Americans are lazy, materalistic & greedy... If you're tired of going to work every day all you have to do is spill a cup of hot coffee in your own lap & you're set for life. That's one of the main reason's the health care "system" here is such a mess; (some) Doctors aren't delivering babies because their affraid of getting sued. It's really a shame and one of the reason President Jr. needs to be sent home.
Edit: Another thread going on highlights (in a rather humorous way) how great this country is: Click Me
Message edited by author 2004-07-29 21:34:02. |
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07/30/2004 12:07:08 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by imolaavant:
Originally posted by oskar:
I cant understand why people how are getting a great service should get money from them because some other people are having trouble. I just can't believe that the US justice system works that way. |
Dude! Us Americans are lazy, materalistic & greedy... If you're tired of going to work every day all you have to do is spill a cup of hot coffee in your own lap & you're set for life. That's one of the main reason's the health care "system" here is such a mess; (some) Doctors aren't delivering babies because their affraid of getting sued. It's really a shame and one of the reason President Jr. needs to be sent home.
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You're blaming Bush because there are some Americans out there who choose to take advantage of the judicial system and screw things up for the rest of us? I guess it doesn't matter to you that this stuff has been going on long before Bush even entered politics. Or that he has slightly more important things to worry about than frivolous lawsuits.
Anyway, why assume a candidate that is notorious for not being firm on any issue will be more apt to fix this problem than a candidate who is notorious for being unwaveringly firm on every issue?
Sorry, I'm gonna stop. This has nothing to do with PayPal. Shame on me!!! :(
ps :: i'm getting back $50!!! paypal, i take back everything bad i ever said about you ;)
Message edited by author 2004-07-30 00:12:07. |
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07/30/2004 02:43:47 AM · #15 |
More info here
Also:
Account holders must have opened a PayPal account between October 1, 1999 and January 31, 2004. They may not reside in the following countries: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Finland, France, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, The Netherlands, or United Kingdom. And of course, they must not be employees or former employees of PayPal. |
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07/30/2004 03:18:32 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by brownt:
They may not reside in the following countries: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Finland, France, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, The Netherlands, or United Kingdom. |
buggrit - no fair (although of course morally i wouldn't dream of stiffing Paypal who are wonderful and just people, but the option would have been nice). although, it does look as if it could be bring-home-the-bacon day for the many treeless-fishloving icelanders out there ;) |
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07/30/2004 06:09:56 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by redmoon:
buggrit - no fair (although of course morally i wouldn't dream of stiffing Paypal who are wonderful and just people,... |
Obviously you are unaware of their practices...
Paypal Sucks |
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07/30/2004 11:16:15 AM · #18 |
I got this email also. Since I did not fit the parameters for getting money back I did not follow up.
However...
I also get lots of phishing emails from scam artists trying to get my accounts, PINs, credit card numbers, etc. Many of them use PayPal as their cover.
My first thought on getting this email was that it was one of the better phishing scams. If I had been eligible, I might have followed up by checking the courts or with PayPal directly. No way would I just play along with this without independent confirmation.
BE CAREFUL! Scammers are getting more proficient every day. There is even one out there that replaces your browser's address bar with a fake that sends you to their site even though you type in PayPal's real URL.
I'm not saying that this IS a scam, just be careful what information you give them without independant confirmation. And if anyone got this who never used PayPal, that would raise the red flag even further.
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07/30/2004 11:21:16 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by imolaavant:
Dude! Us Americans are lazy, materalistic & greedy... If you're tired of going to work every day all you have to do is spill a cup of hot coffee in your own lap & you're set for life. That's one of the main reason's the health care "system" here is such a mess; (some) Doctors aren't delivering babies because their affraid of getting sued. It's really a shame and one of the reason President Jr. needs to be sent home.
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If you are referring to the "infamous" lawsuit against McDonalds brought by an 81-year old woman who spilled their hot coffee in her lap, then that incident happened in Februrary 1992 - during the Clinton administration. I don't remember reading anything about him or his administration petitioning for tort reform during the remaining 7 years 11 months of his term.
But for my own edification, what would you have expected Bush & Co to do to prevent this type of lawsuit, which you claim are "one of the main reason's the health care "system" here is such a mess", and why President Jr. needs to be sent home?
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07/30/2004 11:23:59 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by drgsoell:
I'm not saying that this IS a scam, just be careful what information you give them without independant confirmation. And if anyone got this who never used PayPal, that would raise the red flag even further.
drg |
Absolutely...and I find it very strange that no mention of this class action suit or settlement is made ANYWHERE on PayPal's official website...things that make you go hmmmmm.......... I forwarded my email that I received to PayPal's "spoof" email department for further investigation just to find out if it's real or not. BEWARE!!!
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07/30/2004 11:28:53 AM · #21 |
Well, it's for real...here's the response from PayPal... who knew?
Dear Laurie Black,
Thank you for contacting PayPal.
Thank you for bringing the "Notice of Pendency of Class Action and Proposed
Settlement¨ email to our attention. We can confirm that PayPal sent this
email. We apologize for any confusion this may have caused.
On June 11th, 2004 PayPal entered into a Settlement Agreement with Girard
Gibbs & De Bartolomeo LLP and Wolf Popper LLP for a lawsuit filed in 2002
on behalf of a class alleging that PayPal did not appropriately communicate
about customer transactions and did not appropriately process limits that
were placed on some customer accounts. In this agreement, PayPal does not
acknowledge that any of the allegations in the case are true and entered
into the Settlement Agreement to avoid further costs of litigation, and to
devote resources to more productive areas of our business
PayPal's employees and subsidiaries can not provide information or legal
advice in relation to the class action lawsuit and proposed settlement. You
may seek additional information about the settlement from the attorneys for
the class. They can be reached via email or by first class mail at:
paypalsettlement@settlement4onlinepayments.com
Girard Gibbs & De Bartolomeo LLP
601 California Street, Suite 1400
San Francisco, California 94108
Wolf Popper LLP
845 Third Avenue
New York, NY 10022
Additionally, you can obtain more information at
//www.settlement4onlinepayments.com.
If you have any further questions regarding your account, please log in to
your PayPal account and click on Help (located on the upper right side) ³
Contact Us ³ Help by Email ³ Contact Customer Service.
Sincerely,
PayPal Account Review Department
PayPal
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07/30/2004 11:32:35 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by maharris:
There is a million dollars set aside for the group of claimants that have had no problems. |
That's just pure madness. A million dollars for the group of people with no actual reason to claim?
And people wonder why the legal profession has a bad reputation. |
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07/30/2004 11:37:06 AM · #23 |
PayPal really did just settle a lawsuit (//zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5258259.html). I also got the email. To get the money, you can either use a short form or a long form. The short form is here: https://ppl.gardencitygroup.com/ppl/fs/shortClaim?action=clear
They ask for name, address, and email information.
As cautioned above, always be careful about such things. To me this looks legit. They are not asking for bank account info or passwords or anything that somebody couldn't already get from a phonebook. |
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07/30/2004 11:48:10 AM · #24 |
I don't think it is a question about being a legit settlement or not. That it is. What people need to realize is that you can't just go to the "Short Form", fill it out, and get $50 deposited in your PayPal account. You have to meet the requirements of the Class, and agree that you do under penalty of perjury. To be part of the Class, you have to believe that before February 1, 2004 you had access to your PayPal account improperly restricted as the result of an unauthorized or incorrect funds transfer.
There is also $1 million set aside for "statutory damages" for people who are not part of the above Class (which is why everyone got the email). For that, you fill out a simple form with account and identification information, and release PayPal from any future liability in this lawsuit or any future, similar complaints. Everyone who completes that form will share the $1 million chunk.
Message edited by author 2004-07-30 11:49:27. |
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07/30/2004 11:53:12 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by joebok:
PayPal really did just settle a lawsuit (//zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5258259.html). I also got the email. To get the money, you can either use a short form or a long form. The short form is here: https://ppl.gardencitygroup.com/ppl/fs/shortClaim?action=clear
They ask for name, address, and email information.
As cautioned above, always be careful about such things. To me this looks legit. They are not asking for bank account info or passwords or anything that somebody couldn't already get from a phonebook. |
Keep in mind that those forms are only for people who have had a problem that they can prove. If you've never had a problem, you can only apply for the Statutory Damages Fund. |
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