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 03/11/2012 12:08:52 AM · #251
Originally posted by tnun:
there once was a gal name of Margret
with herself she never had arg'ment
until on a thread
she never had read
she totally soared off the target.
Spot on, and loving it!
 03/11/2012 12:56:44 AM · #252
Originally posted by tnun:
there once was a gal name of Margret
with herself she never had arg'ment
until on a thread
she never had read
she totally soared off the target.


+1 just for the sheer creative genius. :)
 03/11/2012 01:10:15 AM · #253
Originally posted by bvy:
Originally posted by MargaretN:
I have finally given up on reading this thread as there are just too many posts and wildly ra(n)ging opinions! BUT I personally resent that some participants consider Photoshop as a tool of the devil, something we should not touch as DPCers.

Please name one such participant who suggested as much.

This one.

Message edited by author 2012-03-11 01:11:03.
 03/11/2012 01:39:52 AM · #254
Are you guys STILL arguing about this????
 03/11/2012 01:40:52 AM · #255
No we're not.
 03/11/2012 09:04:19 AM · #256
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
No we're not.


Yes, we are. ;D
 03/11/2012 11:22:50 AM · #257
Originally posted by tanguera:
Are you guys STILL arguing about this????

Both sides think they've won the argument.
 03/11/2012 11:39:53 AM · #258
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by tanguera:
Are you guys STILL arguing about this????

Both sides think they've won the argument.


Time for a poll
 03/11/2012 11:44:37 AM · #259
going to the mattresses
 03/11/2012 11:52:28 AM · #260
Originally posted by hahn23:
going to the mattresses


Oh - I thought that would mean when you found a horse's head in your bed - Yikes - glad I was wrong!
 03/11/2012 11:57:35 AM · #261
Three words:
Big
League
Chew

It would be cool to have a debate on DPChat, amirite?
 03/11/2012 01:18:24 PM · #262
Originally posted by deeby:
Three words:
Big
League
Chew

It would be cool to have a debate on DPChat, amirite?


What's the reference to Big League Chew? I must've missed that meme.
 03/11/2012 01:44:07 PM · #263
you never heard of big league chew?

its the bubble gum made to mimic chewing tobacco, it was a staple of little league baseball in my heyday.
 03/11/2012 03:07:47 PM · #264
Originally posted by MargaretN:


What's wrong with using software to enhance/realize your VISION?? Maybe the problem is that many participants just DON'T HAVE IT!??


I think you are discounting as lacking vision the approach of a number of photographers who have no images on DPC but quite a lot in museums all over the world and their ugly mugs and names on pretty much any reputable art encyclopedia.
Let's not be deluded, these people work blows into the water the work of *any* photographer on DPC, if critic or popular acclaim is the parameter.
Please come back to Earth, you might have your preferences, but they reflect a tiny fraction of what 'people with vision' have done, are doing and will do with photography.

Really sorry if this cames accross as rude, I am not in the habit of expressing things this bluntly, but I think what you said is wrong and very puzzling coming from somebody who likes photography and should therefore know about photography.

Message edited by author 2012-03-11 17:58:58.
 03/11/2012 03:23:22 PM · #265
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by deeby:
Three words:
Big
League
Chew

It would be cool to have a debate on DPChat, amirite?


What's the reference to Big League Chew? I must've missed that meme.

Near the beginning of the thread...
 03/11/2012 04:34:43 PM · #266
Originally posted by deeby:
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by deeby:
Three words:
Big
League
Chew

It would be cool to have a debate on DPChat, amirite?


What's the reference to Big League Chew? I must've missed that meme.

Near the beginning of the thread...


Right. I know it's gum, and I know someone mentioned it back there.

I'm just trying to figure out whether it was just a random post or there's some meaning to it.

I guess it's random. :)
 03/11/2012 06:35:59 PM · #267
Originally posted by mcaldo:
Originally posted by MargaretN:


What's wrong with using software to enhance/realize your VISION?? Maybe the problem is that many participants just DON'T HAVE IT!??


I think you are discounting as lacking vision the approach of a number of photographers who have no images on DPC but quite a lot in museums all over the world and their ugly mugs and names on pretty much any reputable art encyclopedia.
Let's not be deluded, these people work blows into the water the work of *any* photographer on DPC, if critic or popular acclaim is the parameter.
Please come back to Earth, you might have your preferences, but they reflect a tiny fraction of what 'people with vision' have done, are doing and will do with photography.

Really sorry if this cames accross as rude, I am not in the habit of expressing things this bluntly, but I think what you said is wrong and very puzzling coming from somebody who likes photography and should therefore know about photography.

I have attacked a general notion, you have attacked me personally. That's very wrong.
 03/11/2012 08:19:50 PM · #268
Originally posted by MargaretN:

I have attacked a general notion, you have attacked me personally. That's very wrong.

Funny that, you did the same to me.

CS
 03/11/2012 08:30:46 PM · #269
Originally posted by cosmicassassin:
Originally posted by MargaretN:

I have attacked a general notion, you have attacked me personally. That's very wrong.

Funny that, you did the same to me.

CS

Never mind

Message edited by author 2012-03-11 20:32:24.
 03/11/2012 08:39:49 PM · #270
Originally posted by mike_311:
And for the record anyone who doesn't want to learn postprocessing and think they can do it all with a camera, is just as "lazy".


What a freakin' howl!!!!

I have found that the better I get as a photographer, the less skills I need post-processing.
 03/11/2012 08:51:26 PM · #271
I give up.
 03/11/2012 09:33:27 PM · #272
Originally posted by MargaretN:
Originally posted by mcaldo:
Originally posted by MargaretN:


What's wrong with using software to enhance/realize your VISION?? Maybe the problem is that many participants just DON'T HAVE IT!??


I have attacked a general notion, you have attacked me personally. That's very wrong.


I don't feel it's wrong but I see your point if you take it personally.
I find it amusing because my comment, which is a bit atypical for me honestly, was triggered by exactly what you lament about it. I saw it as a personal attack at people which disagree from you, and I think that I might not be the only one reading it that way.
You have suggested explicitly that specific people, not people in general I am afraid, but those that don't share your view on this topic, disagree because after all they lack of vision.

My point being that your idea of 'vision' and how to develop is by no mean the only one, neither a mainstream one when you look at what has been called phtoogrpahy and deemed outstanding over the last century. Not to say that your ideal is worth less of any other, but your ideal is yours, not necessarily everybody's. And DPC is varied enough to reflect that your ideal is just one among many, all of which should ideally be respected and allowed to develop.

My feeling is that you, like most other DPCers, value the site because it helps you working towards your idea of good photography.
The challenge rules are a tool for photographers to get better under certain constraints and perhaps realize that certain things can be achieved no matter what the constraints are, and sometimes also realize that an alternative approach can deliver different but very effective results.

Some photographers use the ruleset you wish abolished to develop towards their ideal, as having to submit at that terms is much easier than self-imposing restrictions.
You don't share their kind of approach, and see challenges with more restrictive rulesets as a wasted opportunity for you to work on what you aspire to, and show the result. So you want that limitations lifted, fair enough. And to promote that you suggest that those rulesets are not a tool for developing phtoographers, but a shelter for people with no vision. That's what you wrote, quite clearly.
That's a personal attack, however else you wish to call it.

This is not fair at all and it is also gratutiously insulting people who are not criticizing your preferences, or calling you unispired because of them.

I didn't mean to call you an ignorant, if that's how you are reading my comment and the reason why you feel attacked on a personal basis.
I don't think there is any requirement of taking an interest in a variety of approaches to make good images.
But, I stand by what I said, it's difficult for me to understand your point of view when there are so many photographers which didn't do photography the way you like, and still are deemed geniuses.
And obviously a number of people on DPC taking that as an inspiration, and trying to work towards that with what the site offers, rulesets included.

So, fair enough you want a change. Fair enough there should be a poll about it if enough feel the same.
Honestly, I don't even oppose what you suggest.
But I do oppose you slandering some of your fellow DPCers calling them vision-less, which is pretty much the worst thing you can say of a photographer, which you did.

As for the real topic of this thread, I think General nailed it with his comment.

Message edited by author 2012-03-11 21:38:06.
 03/11/2012 09:47:02 PM · #273
oh. I thought Margaret meant maybe we didn't have the SOFTWARE. I have always believed that the mistress of the universe would provide whatever software was necessary... Others may not share that point of view.
 03/11/2012 10:11:03 PM · #274
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by mike_311:
And for the record anyone who doesn't want to learn postprocessing and think they can do it all with a camera, is just as "lazy".


What a freakin' howl!!!!

I have found that the better I get as a photographer, the less skills I need post-processing.


i made that as a smart ass reply to someone and retracted it when i realized i insulted people i didn't intend to.

this thread turned into a pretty heated argument over what is the best way to take pictures, everyone has their own workflow, we should respect that.

03/11/2012 10:37:02 PM · #275
Originally posted by tnun:
oh. I thought Margaret meant maybe we didn't have the SOFTWARE.


I have to admit you had me jump and go back checking the original post, in case I had misunderstood big time.

I have to give to Adobe that they do provide some vision online for free.
And we shouldn't forget that visionary of Bill gates too..

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