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09/19/2011 12:49:38 PM · #1 |
| I know this is a long shot, but I figured I would try. Does anyone know of or use something that works? I would love to be able to just buy something that would spray some CO2 to slow the insect down. I've looked a bit online and the forums, but can't seem to find anything. I'm hoping for something simple like the CO2 fill ups for bike tires or maybe something that attaches to a paintball container. Any ideas on where I can get something like that? |
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09/19/2011 01:35:20 PM · #2 |
| I've never tried it, but I've heard keeping them in the refrigerator for a few minutes before the shoot can slow them down. I don't know of anything to spray on them. |
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09/19/2011 01:39:44 PM · #3 |
RAID will slow them down.....oh wait.... :P
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09/19/2011 02:01:15 PM · #4 |
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09/19/2011 02:02:00 PM · #5 |
| Of course, I shoot my insects at full speed, I find them much more interesting that way :) |
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09/19/2011 02:15:52 PM · #6 |
| I don't know of a temporary dispatching fluid. The methods readily available to capture, dispatch, mount and display insects are a one way street. |
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09/19/2011 02:45:01 PM · #7 |
| I tried the refrigerator route for like a day. Basically, they look dead for a few minutes then they warm up and fly away ASAP. I find I have more luck tracking them as they go about their day. It's funner and less frustrating. |
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09/19/2011 03:12:03 PM · #8 |
You can get a tank of co2 at tons of places. I use Air Gas
But the more important question is how well it would work... and I don't think it really would all that well. Insects and other arthropods have quite low requirements for oxygen volume, and I'm not sure if they wouldn't just quickly conk out once it got low enough to really impact them.
If anything, the dry ice idea may work the best because it is also cold air. You could try having the dry ice elevated with some ducting going into a container (paper towel tube or some such), letting it sit for some time to fill the container since it is more dense and will sink. Then I'd say refrigerate the insect to slow them a bit initially and place them in the container. That might be worth a shot. |
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09/19/2011 03:16:14 PM · #9 |
| I confess to having trapped flies on the window with a glass and a card with the intention of releasing them outside BUT on occasion I have let them linger in the glass long enough to get a leetle tired and then I photographed them. I do NOT feel at all good about that, nor were the photos worth a darn. I am generally loathe to rearrange nature. |
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09/19/2011 03:18:43 PM · #10 |
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09/19/2011 03:39:48 PM · #11 |
You *might* be able to stun them with ethyl chloride spray*, but it might also kill them or (literally) blow them away -- use with caution!
*Often found in first-aid kits, for freeze/numbing superficial injuries |
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09/19/2011 03:43:46 PM · #12 |
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09/19/2011 03:57:52 PM · #13 |
DPC suffers from such guilt complexes...
I've never tried CO2. Sounds complicated. Fridge works fine. Lately I've been shooting them in flight which is much more challenging.
Somehow we don't feel guilty when our house is invaded by ants, or our veggies by aphids, or our BBQ by yellow jackets or mosquitos. :) |
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09/19/2011 04:00:34 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
DPC suffers from such guilt complexes...
I've never tried CO2. Sounds complicated. Fridge works fine. Lately I've been shooting them in flight which is much more challenging.
Somehow we don't feel guilty when our house is invaded by ants, or our veggies by aphids, or our BBQ by yellow jackets or mosquitos. :) |
Selective conscience...
I've got a question for another of your threads.... ;P |
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09/19/2011 04:43:21 PM · #15 |
Luckily, because of the exoskeleton, they look alive for a while,
even when they are dead. as long as you kill them gently,
they can be posed into lifelike positions,
except for the flying bugs, which really don't fly too well drugged or chilled anyway.
Spritz them with water and film them looking menacing,
after you crazy glue them to a flower or something. |
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09/19/2011 04:54:15 PM · #16 |
I've found that the 'fridge is the best bet. When you pull them out, you do have to act quickly though, and the smaller they are, the quicker they re-animate!
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09/19/2011 05:12:06 PM · #17 |
| liquid helium. If it works for overclocking ... |
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09/19/2011 05:50:28 PM · #18 |
In my 10th grade biology class we had the option of doing a research paper or an insect collection. I picked the insect collection. I got a "kill jar" from the teacher that was supposed to kill the insects quickly. The centerpiece of my collection was this enormous Praying Mantis. I had put it in the kill jar and pinned it to the board the night before, along with all of my other insects. I took it to school and turned it in.
The next morning, the teacher asked me if I'd used the kill jar on my specimens. I said I had and then asked why. Evidently, my Praying Mantis had come back to life and despite having two pins through its body, had gone on a feeding frenzy, eating most of my insects and several of my classmates. |
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09/19/2011 05:52:56 PM · #19 |
| Not that I can recommend it, but the "traditional" stunner for bees is tobacco smoke (think about that ...) ... but bees are under enough duress right now, I say leave them alone. However, if you want to try a 100% "organic" neurotoxin on some mosquitos, flies, or aphids, I won't report you ... ;-) |
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09/19/2011 05:54:11 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
DPC suffers from such guilt complexes... |
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Not everyone... I heard that some individual on this very site once glued a bunch of lady bugs to a leaf or something like, just to take their photo... Meanie :O)
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09/19/2011 05:54:46 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
... eating most of my insects and several of my classmates. |
How did they explain that to their parents?! And who replaced them on the baseball team ...? ;-) |
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09/19/2011 05:56:50 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
In my 10th grade biology class we had the option of doing a research paper or an insect collection. I picked the insect collection. I got a "kill jar" from the teacher that was supposed to kill the insects quickly. The centerpiece of my collection was this enormous Praying Mantis. I had put it in the kill jar and pinned it to the board the night before, along with all of my other insects. I took it to school and turned it in.
The next morning, the teacher asked me if I'd used the kill jar on my specimens. I said I had and then asked why. Evidently, my Praying Mantis had come back to life and despite having two pins through its body, had gone on a feeding frenzy, eating most of my insects and several of my classmates. |
WOW, not that is something. I bet the teacher did NOT ask you to do that again huh?
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09/19/2011 07:16:41 PM · #23 |
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09/19/2011 08:37:57 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Spork99:
... eating most of my insects and several of my classmates. |
How did they explain that to their parents?! And who replaced them on the baseball team ...? ;-) |
It only ate the weaklings...their parents were relieved for the most part. :) |
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09/20/2011 09:26:17 AM · #25 |
| Just sing a lullaby to the insects and offer them some warm milk; if that doesn't work you can simply ask them to hold still for a minute. I'm sure they'll ablige. |
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