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07/23/2004 03:17:52 PM · #1


Not my image, but what are the odds of the photographer catching this?
07/23/2004 03:23:24 PM · #2
Here's a Fake or Foto? quiz.
07/23/2004 03:33:07 PM · #3
I took the challeng on the link.I got 7 out of ten correct..lol
I think the photo is real.All the shadows in the whole photo are consistant.
07/23/2004 03:36:04 PM · #4
It could be "real" but staged ....
07/23/2004 03:37:33 PM · #5
Matrix did better than myself, I got 6 out of 10. Photo is real
07/23/2004 03:38:01 PM · #6
I think it's real and it's brilliant. Bit worried about the guy on the bike though.
07/23/2004 03:39:47 PM · #7
I'm guessing it's real and not staged. If you look closely, you'll see that the bicycle has hydraulic disc brakes on the front wheel. My guess is that this is a newish bike and/or brake system for the rider. Probably, he found himself needing to brake hard to avoid the lamp post and "over-braked" with those discs.

Just a theory.
07/23/2004 03:41:50 PM · #8
Funny. I got 9 out of 10 on the quiz- and the one I missed I originally had correct, but changed my mind before clicking the button.
07/23/2004 03:42:52 PM · #9
Ouch!

David
07/23/2004 03:54:47 PM · #10
Staged: if he was hurling forward mid-post-slam, his backpack would probably be sliding up his back rather than hanging peacefully.
07/23/2004 03:56:35 PM · #11
Originally posted by alanbataar:

Staged: if he was hurling forward mid-post-slam, his backpack would probably be sliding up his back rather than hanging peacefully.


In an impact like that, his backpack would be pushed against his 'back' - hence creating the hanging effect.
07/23/2004 04:07:56 PM · #12
Originally posted by alanbataar:

Staged: if he was hurling forward mid-post-slam, his backpack would probably be sliding up his back rather than hanging peacefully.

That would be the case only after he had reacted to slow his body down (or hit something). This shot seems to be an instant before he hits the handle-bars; backback and body would still be moving at the same speed, the same as they are when riding normally. It doesn't matter to the laws of motion if he has something under him or not; only a change in acceleration would make a difference.

David
07/23/2004 04:15:17 PM · #13
Originally posted by GeneralE:

It could be "real" but staged ....

I say staged. The position of the foot is more in the position to hold up the body in that posotion than to support a fall.
07/23/2004 04:19:47 PM · #14
What a great topic starter.The way I look at it's real.Even if not he falls by the way he is leaning.I see two people looking at the accident. Can you find them?
07/23/2004 04:20:52 PM · #15
I say real because the back of the bike is at an angle and wouldn`t stay up on its own.
07/23/2004 04:31:09 PM · #16
I took the quiz and got 9 out of ten correct...

The only one I got wrong was very difficult to tell if it was real or CG. I pegged it for real when it is actually CG.

I think CG has a few more years to go, maybe as much as 10 years to be able to truly fool the discerning eye.
07/23/2004 04:46:11 PM · #17


I used PS to bring up the detail in the shadows to separate his head from the pole more.

I have to say real because there are too many things that match up too well. The shadows being consistent is the give away though. In the above image the shadow of his left shoulder is visible on the pole. This illustrates that he turned his body to avoid hitting it. This turn was no doubt accomplished by putting his foot down and twisting, producing the odd placement of the foot (not placed to catch a fall, but to prevent a collision) and by pushing down on the handlebars while twisting (to keep them from catching him in the groin) the tilt of the front wheel and the reverse fall-over of the rear of the bike are explained.

David

/edit: forgot to add, that he is apparently quite use to taking spills as he has learned to roll with it instead of fighting it. This does question if the event was staged or not, but the fall itself seems all too real.

Message edited by author 2004-07-23 16:48:25.
07/23/2004 04:54:25 PM · #18
Originally posted by Britannica:


I used PS to bring up the detail in the shadows to separate his head from the pole more.

I have to say real because there are too many things that match up too well. The shadows being consistent is the give away though. In the above image the shadow of his left shoulder is visible on the pole. This illustrates that he turned his body to avoid hitting it. This turn was no doubt accomplished by putting his foot down and twisting, producing the odd placement of the foot (not placed to catch a fall, but to prevent a collision) and by pushing down on the handlebars while twisting (to keep them from catching him in the groin) the tilt of the front wheel and the reverse fall-over of the rear of the bike are explained.

David

/edit: forgot to add, that he is apparently quite use to taking spills as he has learned to roll with it instead of fighting it. This does question if the event was staged or not, but the fall itself seems all too real.


Wow! Are you a professional debunker brought in to help determine whether a UFO image is 'true' or 'false' and how the shot could have been made?

That's an excellent analysis you did there.
07/23/2004 05:09:29 PM · #19
if its fake, its a damn good one.

The only thing odd is that he doesnt have his arm out to catch himself...anyone that is falling like that surely would instinctively have his or her hand out to break his or her fall.

Also, after studying the shadows, they look real...
07/23/2004 05:19:53 PM · #20
I did that fake or foto, and got them all right on the first try. Unfortunately, the bonus round was much harder to discern, I only got one right on that. I was kind of fun, and I have used 3D Studio MAX before, so I may have had an advantage.

-Danielle

BTW, I agree with Nelzie, that Britannica made a great analysis of the photo.
07/23/2004 05:23:26 PM · #21
Where's his other leg, is what I want to know?
07/23/2004 05:33:32 PM · #22
it must be staged. no guy in his right mind would let someone take their picture holding that shopping bag. . .
07/23/2004 05:37:03 PM · #23
I redid the challenge, fixing my error and took the Bonus Challenge.

Only one of them gave me some issue. Got 4 for 4, first try in under 3 minutes. I just rushed through it.
07/23/2004 05:41:12 PM · #24
I'm telling you, it's those damn disc brakes. They'll put you on your ass before you have a chance to guess what happened.
07/23/2004 06:00:48 PM · #25
Staged. The composition has enough on the right to include the bike crash. No tourist would "snapshot" with the main subject so off center. Whoever took the shot aimed it just enough to include the accident.

Cropped from a larger image? Doubtful.
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