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07/28/2011 01:00:43 PM · #26 |
I am 99.9% sure that the overall average not updating real-time is one of the new changes that Langdon has meant to make in order to help the participants' anonymity. No worries, your overall average will get updated once the voting period has ended and the results are in for every challenge. I am sure people who had participated in the rule of thirds challenge saw a sudden change in their overall average once the results got posted. This is how it should have been since the beginning anyway, but I am glad that Langdon finally got to getting it fixed.
As for why your number of comments found helpful are higher that the number of comments received, that is perhaps a bug and I am sure he will fix it. If I were to guess, it is perhaps counting the number of comments you found helpful for entries you may have in challenges currently in voting but not the comments received for those entries, hence the discrepancy. I am be wrong on this though.
Now that you all know I am Langdon himself in disguise, my post will make more sense to you. Thank you very much! |
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07/28/2011 01:08:44 PM · #27 |
I thought that it was just comments hidden during challenges that was making the numbers go weird. It's not Apr1st already is it?
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07/28/2011 01:40:37 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by nightpixels:
I am 99.9% sure that the overall average not updating real-time is one of the new changes that Langdon has meant to make in order to help the participants' anonymity. No worries, your overall average will get updated once the voting period has ended and the results are in for every challenge. I am sure people who had participated in the rule of thirds challenge saw a sudden change in their overall average once the results got posted. This is how it should have been since the beginning anyway, but I am glad that Langdon finally got to getting it fixed.
As for why your number of comments found helpful are higher that the number of comments received, that is perhaps a bug and I am sure he will fix it. If I were to guess, it is perhaps counting the number of comments you found helpful for entries you may have in challenges currently in voting but not the comments received for those entries, hence the discrepancy. I am be wrong on this though.
Now that you all know I am Langdon himself in disguise, my post will make more sense to you. Thank you very much! |
let me just preface my comment with "I am NO mathematician"
So you are saying that all these "charts" that everyone keeps will not be usable anymore? Won't people still be able to watch as each vote comes in and give an educated (not in my case) guess as to what the vote was...therefore it doesn't change "the participants' anonymity". (I'm sure I'm missing something here) I don't get what our stats have that our score page doesn't have...I see no difference...and I'm sure I'm about to have a "duh moment" here real soon..hmmm |
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07/28/2011 01:49:20 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by Ja-9:
Originally posted by nightpixels:
I am 99.9% sure that the overall average not updating real-time is one of the new changes that Langdon has meant to make in order to help the participants' anonymity. No worries, your overall average will get updated once the voting period has ended and the results are in for every challenge. I am sure people who had participated in the rule of thirds challenge saw a sudden change in their overall average once the results got posted. This is how it should have been since the beginning anyway, but I am glad that Langdon finally got to getting it fixed.
As for why your number of comments found helpful are higher that the number of comments received, that is perhaps a bug and I am sure he will fix it. If I were to guess, it is perhaps counting the number of comments you found helpful for entries you may have in challenges currently in voting but not the comments received for those entries, hence the discrepancy. I am be wrong on this though.
Now that you all know I am Langdon himself in disguise, my post will make more sense to you. Thank you very much! |
let me just preface my comment with "I am NO mathematician"
So you are saying that all these "charts" that everyone keeps will not be usable anymore? Won't people still be able to watch as each vote comes in and give an educated (not in my case) guess as to what the vote was...therefore it doesn't change "the participants' anonymity". (I'm sure I'm missing something here) I don't get what our stats have that our score page doesn't have...I see no difference...and I'm sure I'm about to have a "duh moment" here real soon..hmmm |
No, those charts will still work because they are used for a specific entry in voting and those get updated real-time (as each vote comes in). It has nothing to do with your overall average. The overall average updating real-time was a major issue and if somebody wanted to find out what entry belonged to whom that was the way. I had contacted Langdon and asked him to stop updating the overall average real-time and only update it once the results were in. So far it has worked for the Rule of Thirds challenge and hopefully it will remain the same way. Again, I am talking about our overall averages not averages for a specific challenge. You will still get to see those update as each vote comes in and you can still calculate what vote you just received but that is something you and only you will be able to see and there has been no change there, it is the overall average updating as each vote came in and being open to public which was the problem because it got abused by certain individuals to identify what entry belonged to whom.
Message edited by author 2011-07-28 13:52:52. |
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07/28/2011 01:56:39 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by nightpixels:
Originally posted by Ja-9:
Originally posted by nightpixels:
I am 99.9% sure that the overall average not updating real-time is one of the new changes that Langdon has meant to make in order to help the participants' anonymity. No worries, your overall average will get updated once the voting period has ended and the results are in for every challenge. I am sure people who had participated in the rule of thirds challenge saw a sudden change in their overall average once the results got posted. This is how it should have been since the beginning anyway, but I am glad that Langdon finally got to getting it fixed.
As for why your number of comments found helpful are higher that the number of comments received, that is perhaps a bug and I am sure he will fix it. If I were to guess, it is perhaps counting the number of comments you found helpful for entries you may have in challenges currently in voting but not the comments received for those entries, hence the discrepancy. I am be wrong on this though.
Now that you all know I am Langdon himself in disguise, my post will make more sense to you. Thank you very much! |
let me just preface my comment with "I am NO mathematician"
So you are saying that all these "charts" that everyone keeps will not be usable anymore? Won't people still be able to watch as each vote comes in and give an educated (not in my case) guess as to what the vote was...therefore it doesn't change "the participants' anonymity". (I'm sure I'm missing something here) I don't get what our stats have that our score page doesn't have...I see no difference...and I'm sure I'm about to have a "duh moment" here real soon..hmmm |
No, those charts will still work because they are used for a specific entry in voting and those get updated real-time (as each vote comes in). It has nothing to do with your overall average. The overall average updating real-time was a major issue and if somebody wanted to find out what entry belonged to whom that was the way. I had contacted Langdon and asked him to stop updating the overall average real-time and only update it once the results were in. So far it has worked for the Rule of Thirds challenge and hopefully it will remain the same way. Again, I am talking about our overall averages not averages for a specific challenge. You will still get to see those update as each vote comes in and you can still calculate what vote you just received but that is something you and only you will be able to see and there has been no change there, it is the overall average updating as each vote came in and being open to public which was the problem because it got abused by certain individuals to identify what entry belonged to whom. |
almost a "ahhh huh moment"...so how could people tell who's picture was who's...(goes to show that I have NO imagination in this arena)... |
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07/28/2011 02:05:16 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Ja-9:
Originally posted by nightpixels:
Originally posted by Ja-9:
Originally posted by nightpixels:
I am 99.9% sure that the overall average not updating real-time is one of the new changes that Langdon has meant to make in order to help the participants' anonymity. No worries, your overall average will get updated once the voting period has ended and the results are in for every challenge. I am sure people who had participated in the rule of thirds challenge saw a sudden change in their overall average once the results got posted. This is how it should have been since the beginning anyway, but I am glad that Langdon finally got to getting it fixed.
As for why your number of comments found helpful are higher that the number of comments received, that is perhaps a bug and I am sure he will fix it. If I were to guess, it is perhaps counting the number of comments you found helpful for entries you may have in challenges currently in voting but not the comments received for those entries, hence the discrepancy. I am be wrong on this though.
Now that you all know I am Langdon himself in disguise, my post will make more sense to you. Thank you very much! |
let me just preface my comment with "I am NO mathematician"
So you are saying that all these "charts" that everyone keeps will not be usable anymore? Won't people still be able to watch as each vote comes in and give an educated (not in my case) guess as to what the vote was...therefore it doesn't change "the participants' anonymity". (I'm sure I'm missing something here) I don't get what our stats have that our score page doesn't have...I see no difference...and I'm sure I'm about to have a "duh moment" here real soon..hmmm |
No, those charts will still work because they are used for a specific entry in voting and those get updated real-time (as each vote comes in). It has nothing to do with your overall average. The overall average updating real-time was a major issue and if somebody wanted to find out what entry belonged to whom that was the way. I had contacted Langdon and asked him to stop updating the overall average real-time and only update it once the results were in. So far it has worked for the Rule of Thirds challenge and hopefully it will remain the same way. Again, I am talking about our overall averages not averages for a specific challenge. You will still get to see those update as each vote comes in and you can still calculate what vote you just received but that is something you and only you will be able to see and there has been no change there, it is the overall average updating as each vote came in and being open to public which was the problem because it got abused by certain individuals to identify what entry belonged to whom. |
almost a "ahhh huh moment"...so how could people tell who's picture was who's...(goes to show that I have NO imagination in this arena)... |
Oh, c'mon Janine! If I gave you a 1 what would happen to your overall average? If I gave you a 10 what would happen to your overall average? When you post your score in a scoring thread for people to see, some will do just that to find out which one is your entry. In other words by voting very low or very high, they will watch if your overall average changes as they cast their vote and this way they will link the image to you. Make sense?
All I can say is that I am glad it got fixed. Took a while but it is a step in the right direction for DPC.
Message edited by author 2011-07-28 14:08:09. |
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07/28/2011 02:10:40 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by nightpixels:
Oh, c'mon Janine! If I gave you a 1 what would happen to your overall average? If I gave you a 10 what would happen to your overall average? When you post your score in a scoring thread for people to see, some will do just that to find out which one is your entry. In other words by voting very low or very high, they will watch if your overall average changes as they cast their vote and this way they will link the image to you. Make sense?
All I can say is that I am glad it got fixed. Took a while but it is a step in the right direction for DPC. |
wouldn't this involve tracking EVERYONE'S overall site average? i don't think anyone is THAT determined to skew results.
having said, i like it this way better myself. |
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07/28/2011 02:17:01 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by FourPointX:
Originally posted by nightpixels:
Oh, c'mon Janine! If I gave you a 1 what would happen to your overall average? If I gave you a 10 what would happen to your overall average? When you post your score in a scoring thread for people to see, some will do just that to find out which one is your entry. In other words by voting very low or very high, they will watch if your overall average changes as they cast their vote and this way they will link the image to you. Make sense?
All I can say is that I am glad it got fixed. Took a while but it is a step in the right direction for DPC. |
wouldn't this involve tracking EVERYONE'S overall site average? i don't think anyone is THAT determined to skew results.
having said, i like it this way better myself. |
Correct, but why would anybody want to do that? It's usually the individuals who either post their good scores in the scoring threats or the ones that participate regularly and consistently do well are the ones who get targeted the most. No need to keep track of everybody's scores.
Message edited by author 2011-07-28 14:26:15. |
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07/28/2011 02:37:11 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by nightpixels:
Originally posted by FourPointX:
Originally posted by nightpixels:
Oh, c'mon Janine! If I gave you a 1 what would happen to your overall average? If I gave you a 10 what would happen to your overall average? When you post your score in a scoring thread for people to see, some will do just that to find out which one is your entry. In other words by voting very low or very high, they will watch if your overall average changes as they cast their vote and this way they will link the image to you. Make sense?
All I can say is that I am glad it got fixed. Took a while but it is a step in the right direction for DPC. |
wouldn't this involve tracking EVERYONE'S overall site average? i don't think anyone is THAT determined to skew results.
having said, i like it this way better myself. |
Correct, but why would anybody want to do that? It's usually the individuals who either post their good scores in the scoring threats or the ones that participate regularly and consistently do well are the ones who get targeted the most. No need to keep track of everybody's scores. |
I think some people just used it when they were guessing whose was whose. "I think this is Wendy's! Let's give her a 1. Yup -- the average changed -- it was her."
So now I just make my entries readily identifiable to save the trolls all the work. :) |
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07/28/2011 02:39:56 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Originally posted by nightpixels:
Originally posted by FourPointX:
Originally posted by nightpixels:
Oh, c'mon Janine! If I gave you a 1 what would happen to your overall average? If I gave you a 10 what would happen to your overall average? When you post your score in a scoring thread for people to see, some will do just that to find out which one is your entry. In other words by voting very low or very high, they will watch if your overall average changes as they cast their vote and this way they will link the image to you. Make sense?
All I can say is that I am glad it got fixed. Took a while but it is a step in the right direction for DPC. |
wouldn't this involve tracking EVERYONE'S overall site average? i don't think anyone is THAT determined to skew results.
having said, i like it this way better myself. |
Correct, but why would anybody want to do that? It's usually the individuals who either post their good scores in the scoring threats or the ones that participate regularly and consistently do well are the ones who get targeted the most. No need to keep track of everybody's scores. |
I think some people just used it when they were guessing whose was whose. "I think this is Wendy's! Let's give her a 1. Yup -- the average changed -- it was her."
So now I just make my entries readily identifiable to save the trolls all the work. :) |
You are so kind! Very thoughtful of you :) haha! |
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07/28/2011 03:15:58 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by nightpixels:
Originally posted by Ja-9:
Originally posted by nightpixels:
Originally posted by Ja-9:
Originally posted by nightpixels:
I am 99.9% sure that the overall average not updating real-time is one of the new changes that Langdon has meant to make in order to help the participants' anonymity. No worries, your overall average will get updated once the voting period has ended and the results are in for every challenge. I am sure people who had participated in the rule of thirds challenge saw a sudden change in their overall average once the results got posted. This is how it should have been since the beginning anyway, but I am glad that Langdon finally got to getting it fixed.
As for why your number of comments found helpful are higher that the number of comments received, that is perhaps a bug and I am sure he will fix it. If I were to guess, it is perhaps counting the number of comments you found helpful for entries you may have in challenges currently in voting but not the comments received for those entries, hence the discrepancy. I am be wrong on this though.
Now that you all know I am Langdon himself in disguise, my post will make more sense to you. Thank you very much! |
let me just preface my comment with "I am NO mathematician"
So you are saying that all these "charts" that everyone keeps will not be usable anymore? Won't people still be able to watch as each vote comes in and give an educated (not in my case) guess as to what the vote was...therefore it doesn't change "the participants' anonymity". (I'm sure I'm missing something here) I don't get what our stats have that our score page doesn't have...I see no difference...and I'm sure I'm about to have a "duh moment" here real soon..hmmm |
No, those charts will still work because they are used for a specific entry in voting and those get updated real-time (as each vote comes in). It has nothing to do with your overall average. The overall average updating real-time was a major issue and if somebody wanted to find out what entry belonged to whom that was the way. I had contacted Langdon and asked him to stop updating the overall average real-time and only update it once the results were in. So far it has worked for the Rule of Thirds challenge and hopefully it will remain the same way. Again, I am talking about our overall averages not averages for a specific challenge. You will still get to see those update as each vote comes in and you can still calculate what vote you just received but that is something you and only you will be able to see and there has been no change there, it is the overall average updating as each vote came in and being open to public which was the problem because it got abused by certain individuals to identify what entry belonged to whom. |
almost a "ahhh huh moment"...so how could people tell who's picture was who's...(goes to show that I have NO imagination in this arena)... |
Oh, c'mon Janine! If I gave you a 1 what would happen to your overall average? If I gave you a 10 what would happen to your overall average? When you post your score in a scoring thread for people to see, some will do just that to find out which one is your entry. In other words by voting very low or very high, they will watch if your overall average changes as they cast their vote and this way they will link the image to you. Make sense?
All I can say is that I am glad it got fixed. Took a while but it is a step in the right direction for DPC. |
I guess I'm not that devious (no insult intended here)...never even thought to try this...but then I've rarely post my scores. |
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07/28/2011 09:20:51 PM · #37 |
Gosh, I missed all the brouhaha...
But I do see that now the comments marked helpful equals the comments received (in my case, I mark everything helpful) and the count no longer includes comments I made on my own pictures, which is nice. As to why I comment on my own pictures? Sometimes I feel a picture needed a comment and no one else offered... :-) |
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07/28/2011 09:41:06 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Gosh, I missed all the brouhaha...
But I do see that now the comments marked helpful equals the comments received (in my case, I mark everything helpful) and the count no longer includes comments I made on my own pictures, which is nice. As to why I comment on my own pictures? Sometimes I feel a picture needed a comment and no one else offered... :-) |
The comments you made are no longer included in your count? Mine are still are. I mark everything as helpful except my own (which you can't) and the wrong numbers are gone, but there's still an 18 count difference. |
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07/28/2011 09:42:49 PM · #39 |
| I think my comments made are still in the made count, but not in the received count. Comments received, and comments marked helpful are the same number now. They used to be separated by the number of comments I'd left on my own photographs. |
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07/28/2011 09:47:58 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
I think my comments made are still in the made count, but not in the received count. Comments received, and comments marked helpful are the same number now. They used to be separated by the number of comments I'd left on my own photographs. |
I understood what you meant. Mine are still separated by the number of comments I've left on my own. |
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07/28/2011 10:52:37 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by Kelli:
Originally posted by Melethia:
I think my comments made are still in the made count, but not in the received count. Comments received, and comments marked helpful are the same number now. They used to be separated by the number of comments I'd left on my own photographs. |
I understood what you meant. Mine are still separated by the number of comments I've left on my own. |
Definitely weird. |
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07/28/2011 11:19:08 PM · #42 |
I totally don't understand any of this.
But what I do know is that my total vote received hasn't changed since Tuesday and I know it should have gone down based on the total votes of my current entries in voting. |
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07/28/2011 11:21:48 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by Kelli:
Originally posted by Melethia:
I think my comments made are still in the made count, but not in the received count. Comments received, and comments marked helpful are the same number now. They used to be separated by the number of comments I'd left on my own photographs. |
I understood what you meant. Mine are still separated by the number of comments I've left on my own. |
Definitely weird. |
Most certainly: ...my received comments are not changing... |
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07/29/2011 12:58:27 AM · #44 |
| Yeah, my average vote rec'd should be plummeting as well. And now my comments rec'd/helpful are off by 8 which doesn't correlate to anything. Very weird. |
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07/29/2011 01:15:07 AM · #45 |
| My votes received hasn't changed since rollover on Wednesday morning. It was OK up to then. I submitted a ticket, as I am sure lots of others have too. |
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07/29/2011 01:44:35 AM · #46 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Yeah, my average vote rec'd should be plummeting as well. And now my comments rec'd/helpful are off by 8 which doesn't correlate to anything. Very weird. |
Oh, it done plummeted now. I guess it was waiting for rollover. Gosh - I can look forward to that happening again with the next one, too? |
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07/29/2011 10:12:42 AM · #47 |
| mine altered "some" at roll-over (score) but the comments received and helpful are all buggered up...it's going to drive me crazy...I'm supposed to be off by 2 comments now I'm off by 6 and I can't tell if I've missed marking someone's comments. I don't like this part of it at all....hhhhmmmmmm |
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07/29/2011 10:29:15 AM · #48 |
| Maybe the US Commerce Department was put in charge of revisions. |
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07/29/2011 11:39:31 AM · #49 |
| My average went up after rollover, but only by a small amount. If it is the fix about which nightpixels was talking, then it's only adding in the challenge just passed, not updating the real current with all of the challenges in voting. |
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07/29/2011 12:27:09 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by Melethia:
Yeah, my average vote rec'd should be plummeting as well. And now my comments rec'd/helpful are off by 8 which doesn't correlate to anything. Very weird. |
Oh, it done plummeted now. I guess it was waiting for rollover. Gosh - I can look forward to that happening again with the next one, too? |
you are not alone, the next one promises brutality for me, barely hanging on to a 4 now. |
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