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02/13/2011 01:53:31 PM · #126 |
I sharpened before, then resized, then sharpened
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02/13/2011 04:38:38 PM · #127 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I'm finding the minimal to be quite annoying. Simply because I've just started my high contrast b&w phase. I tried upping the contrast in the camera, but I still want more out of the shots. It would have been interesting seeing what I could have done with these. |
Me too. Everything looks so washed out. Not edgy enough for Street photog. |
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02/13/2011 04:54:41 PM · #128 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I sharpened before, then resized, then sharpened |
Wendy, I am pretty certain you can only sharpen once under minimal editing rules - might be worth double checking. |
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02/13/2011 05:00:00 PM · #129 |
I think you can sharpen as many times as you like as long as you use no tools that are adaptable.
It's the resizing you can do more than once, which rules out the Adamus technique. I did think about shoot in a small jpeg size so that my original would in effect be small enough for the Adamus technique to work on the full size image - but since I had no history of trying that, I shot full size instead. |
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02/13/2011 05:02:42 PM · #130 |
I checked the rules a number of times, and they seem to only restrict the resizing to once, not the sharpening.
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02/13/2011 08:21:11 PM · #131 |
maybe it was asked and answered here before (then I apologize), but...
can I convert from Adobe RGB to sRGB colorspace? I found just now that my camera saves JPEGs in Adobe, but browsers like sRGB... |
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02/13/2011 08:27:07 PM · #132 |
Originally posted by LevT:
maybe it was asked and answered here before (then I apologize), but...
can I convert from Adobe RGB to sRGB colorspace? I found just now that my camera saves JPEGs in Adobe, but browsers like sRGB... |
That is a very good question, which is not addressed in the Minimal rules. My camera also captured in AdobeRGB. Without a conversion to sRGB, which almost all display devices use, some colors will be clipped. I found the colors from AdobeRGB to be "muddy" on an Internet display monitor. So, I converted to sRGB and rediscovered the natural colors of the scene, as I saw with my eyes. So, the Minimal rules prohibit adjusting hue and saturation. But, that is quite different from converting to sRGB color space, which is a global change. So, my lowly opinion is that since the conversion to sRGB was not specifically prohibited, it must be acceptable.
edited to correct grammar.
Message edited by author 2011-02-13 20:33:23. |
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02/13/2011 08:47:14 PM · #133 |
 PennyStreet just reminded me in a private email that "Save for Web" option includes automatic conversion to sRGB, so we are (almost :)) certainly fine. |
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02/14/2011 04:21:09 PM · #134 |
Shifting topic from the minimal editing rules to Street photography tips, etc...
I went out shooting today for the street challenge. I am limited in equipment, using the 18-55mm at f8. I tried using about a 35mm and a 50mm focal length. I came back and checked my shots and really felt they were better if I cropped about 50% of the photo. That got the subject to be a nice size in the frame. I really found that I couldn't get in close enough to people without feeling like I was invading their physical space. I mean I am feeling uncomfortable getting within 10 feet of people and shooting. I found that is not close enough.
What are some of you doing to get over that hurdle... especially you crop sensor people. How close are some of you getting to your subjects at 35mm or 50mm focal lengths?? Do you feel comfortable?
Thanks.
Message edited by author 2011-02-14 16:21:22. |
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02/14/2011 04:34:07 PM · #135 |
Originally posted by EL-ROI:
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What are some of you doing to get over that hurdle... especially you crop sensor people. How close are some of you getting to your subjects at 35mm or 50mm focal lengths?? Do you feel comfortable? .... |
(My camera has full sized sensor.) The images I liked best from my street photography adventure were captured with my 135mm prime. That would be 135 x 1.6 = 216mm equivalent to adjust for an APS-C sized sensor camera. One doesn't need that much lens focal length, but it did accomplish the candid thing. I also used my 200mm prime and 24-105mm zoom, but I was either too far away or too close with those focal lengths. (1.6X conversions would be 320mm and 38 - 168mm).
It's also about MY comfort level and a goal of capturing a candid, relaxed person. I observed other photographers right in the face of people. Those people posed and changed their behavior. Nothing candid about that.
eta: I was about 15 feet away to properly compose a human being from head to toe in the view finder. My biggest problem was shooting through the gaps between passing pedestrians. But, it was crowded enough that the subject was oblivious to me.
Message edited by author 2011-02-14 16:38:23. |
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02/14/2011 04:37:41 PM · #136 |
Originally posted by hahn23:
Originally posted by EL-ROI:
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What are some of you doing to get over that hurdle... especially you crop sensor people. How close are some of you getting to your subjects at 35mm or 50mm focal lengths?? Do you feel comfortable? .... |
(My camera has full sized sensor.) The images I liked best from my street photography adventure were captured with my 135mm prime. That would be 135 x 1.6 = 216mm equivalent to adjust for an APS-C sized sensor camera. One doesn't need that much lens focal length, but it did accomplish the candid thing. I also used my 200mm prime and 24-105mm zoom, but I was either too far away or too close with those focal lengths. (1.6X conversions would be 320mm and 38 - 168mm).
It's also about MY comfort level and a goal of capturing a candid, relaxed person. I observed other photographers right in the face of people. Those people posed and changed their behavior. Nothing candid about that. |
on my 1.6 crop sensor I've found that I love the 85 f/1.8 for this type of work.
In effect, that's about 136mm, or exactly the same as Richard prefers....
Message edited by author 2011-02-14 16:39:35. |
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02/14/2011 04:47:39 PM · #137 |
Originally posted by coryboehne:
Originally posted by hahn23:
Originally posted by EL-ROI:
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What are some of you doing to get over that hurdle... especially you crop sensor people. How close are some of you getting to your subjects at 35mm or 50mm focal lengths?? Do you feel comfortable? .... |
(My camera has full sized sensor.) The images I liked best from my street photography adventure were captured with my 135mm prime. That would be 135 x 1.6 = 216mm equivalent to adjust for an APS-C sized sensor camera. One doesn't need that much lens focal length, but it did accomplish the candid thing. I also used my 200mm prime and 24-105mm zoom, but I was either too far away or too close with those focal lengths. (1.6X conversions would be 320mm and 38 - 168mm).
It's also about MY comfort level and a goal of capturing a candid, relaxed person. I observed other photographers right in the face of people. Those people posed and changed their behavior. Nothing candid about that. |
on my 1.6 crop sensor I've found that I love the 85 f/1.8 for this type of work.
In effect, that's about 136mm, or exactly the same as Richard prefers.... |
Yes, I concur! It's very interesting that  coryboehne discovered an optimal focal length for this kind of photography so equivalently close to my experience. |
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02/14/2011 06:22:31 PM · #138 |
oh wait, so we can sharpen more than once? for some reason i thought you could only sharpen once in the post processing.
that would help my shot a little since my picture seems a bit washed out and flat. |
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02/14/2011 08:29:01 PM · #139 |
| hahn23, coryboehne, Thanks for your input. I would like to hear from other street photographers who shoot crop sensor cameras with 35 or 50 mm lenses too. How close do you get to your subjects?? |
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02/14/2011 08:53:29 PM · #140 |
ok i'm in the challenge and i'm ready for my entry to bomb and eat brown but its entered so... eh'
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02/14/2011 08:55:17 PM · #141 |
| Nope I'm pretty sure the brown will be mine :) |
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02/14/2011 08:56:17 PM · #142 |
Originally posted by Love6:
ok i'm in the challenge and i'm ready for my entry to bomb and eat brown but its entered so... eh' |
nevermind i'm so sure mine flops that i unsubmitted it... i'm gonna wait a little bit before i dare one eyed as i am i already learned my photog skills bomb when i'm lacking depth perception |
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02/14/2011 09:02:41 PM · #143 |
Originally posted by Love6:
Originally posted by Love6:
ok i'm in the challenge and i'm ready for my entry to bomb and eat brown but its entered so... eh' |
nevermind i'm so sure mine flops that i unsubmitted it... i'm gonna wait a little bit before i dare one eyed as i am i already learned my photog skills bomb when i'm lacking depth perception |
You should submit it. Don't be afraid of scores. Also, it will help to get some feedback on your work. I looked at your profile and I absolutely loved the shot titled LOVE. |
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02/14/2011 09:20:11 PM · #144 |
Originally posted by chazoe:
Originally posted by Love6:
Originally posted by Love6:
ok i'm in the challenge and i'm ready for my entry to bomb and eat brown but its entered so... eh' |
nevermind i'm so sure mine flops that i unsubmitted it... i'm gonna wait a little bit before i dare one eyed as i am i already learned my photog skills bomb when i'm lacking depth perception |
You should submit it. Don't be afraid of scores. Also, it will help to get some feedback on your work. I looked at your profile and I absolutely loved the shot titled LOVE. |
aw ty-- but that was before my accident...when both my eyes functioned nicely and half the world wasnt a touch out of focus :( I still gotta get my eye trained back into functioning i think- i really dont wanna bomb so bad in a challenge that i quit DPC u kno? sooo i'm taking the wiser route and unsubmitted; i'll wait for something i dont think will get bashed to death |
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02/14/2011 09:40:10 PM · #145 |
Originally posted by EL-ROI:
hahn23, coryboehne, Thanks for your input. I would like to hear from other street photographers who shoot crop sensor cameras with 35 or 50 mm lenses too. How close do you get to your subjects?? |
Very close. Sometimes too close. I've been shooting 41mm (35mm equiv.) for the past year or so, and I keep lopping heads off. 28mm is about perfect for street photography. Anything longer than 50mm is surveillance photography in my opinion. |
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02/15/2011 12:27:06 AM · #146 |
Originally posted by bvy:
Originally posted by EL-ROI:
hahn23, coryboehne, Thanks for your input. I would like to hear from other street photographers who shoot crop sensor cameras with 35 or 50 mm lenses too. How close do you get to your subjects?? |
Very close. Sometimes too close. I've been shooting 41mm (35mm equiv.) for the past year or so, and I keep lopping heads off. 28mm is about perfect for street photography. Anything longer than 50mm is surveillance photography in my opinion. |
Nothing wrong with amputated bodies, adds an unexpected twist. I like to shoot with a 35mm prime as well. Minimal distortion, but grabs more of the scene. |
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02/15/2011 03:05:19 AM · #147 |
| Well, I've gone out for a couple of hours and took a few shots that did not meet my expectation. Unfortunately, my plans to go to the city did not pan out so I’m stuck with a few shots that I’m not unhappy with but also not sure what to enter. I’m appealing to some DPCers that may be willing to assist as to what best to enter. Any helpers? Thanks. |
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02/15/2011 03:51:22 AM · #148 |
i shoot with a 50mm, would be nice to get a 35mm though.
Abra, i can offer my opinion as long as you don't mind that i won't be voting on your shot so you'll have one less vote. pm me the potentials if you're ok with that.
Message edited by author 2011-02-15 03:51:41. |
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02/15/2011 03:59:41 AM · #149 |
Originally posted by Cuttooth:
i shoot with a 50mm, would be nice to get a 35mm though.
Abra, i can offer my opinion as long as you don't mind that i won't be voting on your shot so you'll have one less vote. pm me the potentials if you're ok with that. |
Thanks for the offer but I think I would prefer your vote (I'll probably need it). salmiakki has already helped and made me now feel like I've entered the best of my mediocre shots. Cheers though. |
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02/15/2011 08:08:44 AM · #150 |
Originally posted by bvy:
Originally posted by EL-ROI:
hahn23, coryboehne, Thanks for your input. I would like to hear from other street photographers who shoot crop sensor cameras with 35 or 50 mm lenses too. How close do you get to your subjects?? |
Very close. Sometimes too close. I've been shooting 41mm (35mm equiv.) for the past year or so, and I keep lopping heads off. 28mm is about perfect for street photography. Anything longer than 50mm is surveillance photography in my opinion. |
Thanks for that link to your photo! Loved the comment! I guess you gotta get so close that your gonna risk getting sucker slapped! I will check out your profile a bit more to find that inspriation.
Just as a side note, I was proffered by a 50+ year old midget prostitute while shooting on the main street of my town at 3 pm yesterday. (Well she wasn't really a midget but she was about 4'-8") She just walked up to me and asked if I wanted to f_ _ _ _. I think she had most of her teeth too! It was just good to know that someone found me so desireable, especially on Valentines day! lol!
Message edited by author 2011-02-15 08:09:27. |
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