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02/06/2011 11:55:01 AM · #1
How about a challenge with an extra rule that NO TITLES are allowed. (Or title must be 'N/A').

Whatever the subject of the challenge, the image must stand on its own with no help from a title.

Message edited by author 2011-02-06 11:56:13.
02/06/2011 12:05:49 PM · #2
I would love that. I hate titles.
02/06/2011 12:12:55 PM · #3
What would the title of the challenge be? " ---- " ? This sounds like a good idea for an opportunity to have an extra free study mid month sometime.
02/06/2011 12:20:49 PM · #4
How about a check box option for all challenges that allows the voter to hide or display the title? Similar to someone voting that selects the "Hide My Name" in your preferences.
02/06/2011 12:28:10 PM · #5
hardly anyone reads titles anyway, as far as im concerned. itd be a free study under a different name. i do think titles add to a shot.
however, i do like the idea. yes please.
02/06/2011 12:39:58 PM · #6
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:

What would the title of the challenge be? " ---- " ? This sounds like a good idea for an opportunity to have an extra free study mid month sometime.

I was thinking it could be either a challenge with a subject or a free study. The only thing different about it would be no titles.

Sometimes titles add humor, sometimes they help explain how the image fits the challenge, but usually the title enhances the viewers understanding of the photographer's intention. If there was no title, the photog's intention would have to be expressed purely through image.
02/06/2011 01:03:59 PM · #7
I like the themed challenge idea best. Have the photo titles be hidden until voting has ended. That way if you wanted, you could go back and look after the challenge to see what the titles were.
02/06/2011 01:33:49 PM · #8
I would not enter that challenge. I somehow have the weird idea that the title is part of the artwork. Or maybe the weird part is that I tend to think photography is an art form
02/06/2011 01:50:39 PM · #9
Originally posted by JuliBoc:

Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:

What would the title of the challenge be? " ---- " ? This sounds like a good idea for an opportunity to have an extra free study mid month sometime.

I was thinking it could be either a challenge with a subject or a free study. The only thing different about it would be no titles.

In a themed challenge, the theme automatically becomes the default title -- you can't have a truly "untitled" photograph unless it's a Free Study.
02/06/2011 02:15:37 PM · #10
Originally posted by Camabs:

... I tend to think photography is an art form

This is precisely my point. The art should stand on its own merit. Is the Mona Lisa any better because of its title? Would you rate it differently if it had a different title or none at all? I'd say no, its title is simply a means to identify and refer to the painting.

Message edited by author 2011-02-06 14:16:14.
02/06/2011 02:20:14 PM · #11
Originally posted by GeneralE:


In a themed challenge, the theme automatically becomes the default title --

This would work. The point being that the title would not be used to enhance the image.
02/06/2011 02:26:11 PM · #12
If you watch people in an art gallery, they nearly all look at the picture briefly, then at the little title card, then look at the picture again more intently. This is so even if the title is 'untitled' ('untitled' being a perfectly legitimate title, and not simply a mark of indifference on the part of the artist).

In voting on our challenges I think that the titles are very often the best part.

I suppose we could really push our creativity and have a challenge with titles but no pictures.

02/06/2011 02:27:46 PM · #13
I like this idea, too!

I like the challenge to be a 'regular' challenge with a topic... but no titles allowed.

The image stands on its own and represents the topic clearly without help from words.
02/06/2011 02:41:54 PM · #14
This could be the start of something big! We could also have books without titles, movies without titles, and songs without titles.
02/06/2011 03:22:32 PM · #15
Originally posted by JuliBoc:

Originally posted by Camabs:

... I tend to think photography is an art form

This is precisely my point. The art should stand on its own merit. Is the Mona Lisa any better because of its title? Would you rate it differently if it had a different title or none at all? I'd say no, its title is simply a means to identify and refer to the painting.


True for the Mona Lisa, but not for many other works of art. example
02/06/2011 03:25:10 PM · #16
Originally posted by JuliBoc:

Originally posted by Camabs:

... I tend to think photography is an art form

This is precisely my point. The art should stand on its own merit. Is the Mona Lisa any better because of its title? Would you rate it differently if it had a different title or none at all? I'd say no, its title is simply a means to identify and refer to the painting.

This might not be the best example, since "Mona Lisa" is not the title given the picture by the artist ... and yes, I think people look at it differently because of the somewhat enigmatic title (not the name of the subject).
02/07/2011 12:29:10 AM · #17
I rather like the idea of a themed challenge, with NO TITLES. This will help with those shoe horns that rely totally on the title and also get rid of titles that describe the photograph. If you need to title your challenge entry in order to describe it, then it apparently doesn't hit the mark well. I agree that a challenge like this would cause the photograph to meet the challenge soley on its own merit and content.

Great idea, Julianne! Keep up the good work! ;~}
02/07/2011 08:26:17 AM · #18
I know what the challenge should be!

Tell a story. No titles allowed (you could be DQd if you actually put one in.

Message edited by author 2011-02-07 08:45:08.
02/07/2011 08:51:58 AM · #19
Originally posted by vawendy:

I know what the challenge should be!

Tell a story. No titles allowed (you could be DQd if you actually put one in.


I like that!!
02/07/2011 09:12:48 AM · #20
Originally posted by binarysmart:

Originally posted by vawendy:

I know what the challenge should be!

Tell a story. No titles allowed (you could be DQd if you actually put one in.


I like that!!


all the landscape and wine glass aficionados are going to have a hard time with that one...
02/07/2011 10:31:37 AM · #21
Originally posted by mike_311:

Originally posted by binarysmart:

Originally posted by vawendy:

I know what the challenge should be!

Tell a story. No titles allowed (you could be DQd if you actually put one in.


I like that!!


all the landscape and wine glass aficionados are going to have a hard time with that one...


LOL! Think outside of your box, kids!
02/07/2011 10:46:22 AM · #22
Originally posted by vawendy:

I know what the challenge should be!

Tell a story. No titles allowed (you could be DQd if you actually put one in.

Good idea. This would be really tough!

eta: ... unless you entered a photo of a storybook. ;)

Message edited by author 2011-02-07 10:49:30.
02/07/2011 11:18:28 AM · #23
I have no objection to a challenge with no titles on the images. It would be a good experiment. Ban borders, too. Then, we would have only the photographs to enjoy.
02/07/2011 11:44:55 AM · #24
A title is something an artist can use or not use, like anything else. I think it's fine to have an "untitled" challenge... or a challenge where everyone must use the same title...
02/07/2011 12:06:25 PM · #25
There was this guy who once did a still life painting of a vase with twelve sunflowers. He couldn't think of a better title than "Still Life: Vase With Twelve Sunflowers". Tsk tsk. Total lack of creativity. He will never be famous in his lifetime. And his other paitings have very descriptive titles, too. Maybe because he thought, without those descriptive titles, his paintings would never be understood.
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