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12/18/2010 12:22:59 PM · #26
I have that problem when I save to web in photoshop and my quality bar is up too high. I think the max you can set the quality is 60. But this is in the save to web in my photoshop I don't know what program you are using to resize your photo.

You can submit an image 800 X 800 I have done it before.
12/18/2010 12:23:11 PM · #27
Originally posted by tanguera:

I have encountered a similar problem. Even after resizing and reducing the quality to just under 300 KB, when I upload it reads a different size. It might be a glitch with the site, or it might have something to do with the memory cache. Regardless, delete the previous file, then try saving it to 285 KB and see what the site reads it as when you upload.


I will try that - I use PSElements8, but I am so new to the software, I am probably missing something very basic. There is a tutorial on DPC that I follow to reduce images and that includes the "save to web" feature after I have reduced it to make the longest side 800 pixels. Before this morning, this has always worked for me - all my submissions longest sides were no greater than 800 pixels and all images were under 300kb. This is the first time I have had this kind of conflict . . .

I learned this lesson after posting my "Fallrise Buzzard" - early on in my posting adventures here.

Message edited by author 2010-12-18 12:30:01.
12/18/2010 12:54:15 PM · #28
Crap... misread the title, it's from behing. Technically I would be OK I guess. :O)

Ray
12/18/2010 01:12:03 PM · #29
Originally posted by aircooledguy:

FRUSTRATED!!
I am trying to upload a photo for this challenge, but it's telling me that the image exceeds 300kb! I have gone through all the exact same steps to reduce this to submission size that I have for all my other photos (as described here on DPC) and even when the "extended image information" tells me that my image is 799X736 pixels and 297kb I get the same "exceeds the 300kb" warning. What is going on?


The IMAGE size is 297kb, but there is an exif file appended that's taking you over 300. Use "Save for web and devices", click the flyout arrows and pick "optimize to file size", specify 300kb, and it will give you the max quality it can within that constraint, and will strip the exif so that's no longer a factor.

R.
12/18/2010 08:00:30 PM · #30
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by aircooledguy:

FRUSTRATED!!
I am trying to upload a photo for this challenge, but it's telling me that the image exceeds 300kb! I have gone through all the exact same steps to reduce this to submission size that I have for all my other photos (as described here on DPC) and even when the "extended image information" tells me that my image is 799X736 pixels and 297kb I get the same "exceeds the 300kb" warning. What is going on?


The IMAGE size is 297kb, but there is an exif file appended that's taking you over 300. Use "Save for web and devices", click the flyout arrows and pick "optimize to file size", specify 300kb, and it will give you the max quality it can within that constraint, and will strip the exif so that's no longer a factor.

R.


I have done this, now several times . . . no luck. In PSE8 after I am done working on the picture I choose "resize" from the pull down menu. I select the biggest number between wide and tall and change it to 800 and the other number reduces accordingly - to a number smaller than 800. From there, from the "file" pull down menu, I pick "save for web" and that opens another window to the right hand side of my screen. There is an arrow I select to "optimize image" which opens another window. I make sure the number in that box is 300KB . . . just as Bear_Music described. Still, I get the warning that my image exceeds the 300kb max. I have done and redone this process several times. I know it's the right process because I have followed these exact steps for every entry in the challenges since my second entry.

I'm thinking I will start over from scratch and see what happens.

I really appreciate all the input and will try anything else you can think of to make this work.
12/18/2010 08:16:42 PM · #31
Two things I can think of ... most people who use an "optimize for web" option set the desired file size to slightly under 300KB (usually 296 or 297 from what I've seen), because I don't think that the software can really "predict" the final size that accurately. The other is that, after saving, you might check the actual size of the file on your hard drive ("File > Properties" in Windows and "File > Info" on Mac) and see if the file really ends up under 300KB.

Remember also that the stated file size when looking at the file in the window/directory is rounded/approximate, because a KB is really 1024 bytes, not 1000; I don't know exactly how many bytes you have to "go over" before the file system displays it as 301KB. If you check the Advanced Rules you'll see that the maximum size is exactly 307,200 bytes -- it is possible that a file size of 307,201 bytes will still be claimed by the OS to be "300KB" while being rejected by the DPC upload system.
12/18/2010 08:33:27 PM · #32
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Two things I can think of ... most people who use an "optimize for web" option set the desired file size to slightly under 300KB (usually 296 or 297 from what I've seen), because I don't think that the software can really "predict" the final size that accurately. The other is that, after saving, you might check the actual size of the file on your hard drive ("File > Properties" in Windows and "File > Info" on Mac) and see if the file really ends up under 300KB.

Remember also that the stated file size when looking at the file in the window/directory is rounded/approximate, because a KB is really 1024 bytes, not 1000; I don't know exactly how many bytes you have to "go over" before the file system displays it as 301KB. If you check the Advanced Rules you'll see that the maximum size is exactly 307,200 bytes -- it is possible that a file size of 307,201 bytes will still be claimed by the OS to be "300KB" while being rejected by the DPC upload system.


Thanks! I checked the file this way and found that even though I had selected to optimize to 300kb, it was saving the image at 311kb . . . I ended up toying with the number until when I optimized the image at 292kb it saved it at 299 and DPC accepted it.

Thread hijack released . . . I appreciate all your input and help!
12/18/2010 10:57:27 PM · #33
A bit confused here ... since it says "portrait", does it mean we have to capture part of the face of the subject too which means that the subject has to turn his/her head to a degree for the camera to see it? In other words, when we say "portrait", do we necessarily have to include part or all of the face too?

When I look up the definition of the word "portrait", it says we don't have to I guess, but just wanted to double-check to see what others think.

Message edited by author 2010-12-18 22:58:46.
12/18/2010 11:06:29 PM · #34
I certainly hope we don't have to include part of a face!

Actually, I am going to guess that most photos will not show any part of the face.
12/18/2010 11:10:19 PM · #35
Originally posted by giantmike:

I certainly hope we don't have to include part of a face!

Actually, I am going to guess that most photos will not show any part of the face.


I hope so too, but I have a feeling that some voters might expect to see part of the face, because to a lot of people the word portrait is associated with face even thought according to encarta, it is not:

Portrait on encarta

Note: the keyword in the definition is "or"

But then Merriam-Webster says: a pictorial representation of a person usually showing the face --- hmmm

Portrait on webster

Message edited by author 2010-12-18 23:22:01.
12/18/2010 11:15:40 PM · #36
Originally posted by nightpixels:

Originally posted by giantmike:

I certainly hope we don't have to include part of a face!

Actually, I am going to guess that most photos will not show any part of the face.


I hope so too, but I have a feeling that some voters might expect to see part of the face, because to a lot of people the word portrait is associated with face even thought according to its true definition in the dictionary that I looked it up at, it is not:

//encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?lextype=3&search=portrait

Note: the keyword in the definition is "or"

But then Merriam-Webster says: a pictorial representation of a person usually showing the face --- hmmm

//www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/portrait


[url=//encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?lextype=3&search=portrait ]Link[/url]
12/18/2010 11:20:12 PM · #37
Originally posted by nightpixels:

Originally posted by giantmike:

I certainly hope we don't have to include part of a face!

Actually, I am going to guess that most photos will not show any part of the face.


I hope so too, but I have a feeling that some voters might expect to see part of the face, because to a lot of people the word portrait is associated with face even thought according to its true definition in the dictionary that I looked it up at, it is not:

//encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?lextype=3&search=portrait[/url]Note: the keyword in the definition is "or"

But then Merriam-Webster says: a pictorial representation of a person usually showing the face --- hmmm

//www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/portrait


]Link
12/19/2010 12:09:35 AM · #38
I'm in. A complete no-face. No head at all. And I expect to rock the high 4's with it!
12/19/2010 12:52:57 PM · #39
Originally posted by pixelpig:

I'm in. A complete no-face. No head at all. And I expect to rock the high 4's with it!


I'm in as well, but with some face. I'm interested how mine is going to go (I'm a long ways away from being a portrait photographer!)

Message edited by author 2010-12-19 12:53:15.
12/19/2010 01:25:36 PM · #40
so are all these portraits from behinds gonna look like Rorschach tests or what
12/19/2010 01:29:14 PM · #41
I was going to be in, but it has been raining...correction pouring, for the last three days without stop.
My already unwilling subject is completely refusing with that.
12/19/2010 01:42:45 PM · #42
Originally posted by Fiora:

I was going to be in, but it has been raining...correction pouring, for the last three days without stop.
My already unwilling subject is completely refusing with that.


Figured you had to be in California. Been here for three days from the east coast and it's been raining ever since I've been here! Still managed to get mine in though. You can find a way...you still got 10 hours to plot or find a break in the rain.
12/19/2010 01:44:17 PM · #43
Originally posted by pixelpig:

I'm in. A complete no-face. No head at all. And I expect to rock the high 4's with it!

Is this going to be an all Butt challenge? I think I'm going to do a lot of voting in this one!
12/19/2010 02:01:26 PM · #44
i thought portrait from behind meant no face. i.m planning to vote no face higher. (head fine | face not fine.

did you know you can use dpc on a kindle? i'm doing it now. it's kind of painful. but it works. :)
12/19/2010 02:16:43 PM · #45
Originally posted by vawendy:

i thought portrait from behind meant no face. i.m planning to vote no face higher. (head fine | face not fine.

did you know you can use dpc on a kindle? i'm doing it now. it's kind of painful. but it works. :)


Well, I'm pretty much screwed then...I guess I didn't interpret the challenge has a no face portrait..Oh well, not the first time..lol
12/19/2010 02:23:03 PM · #46
Man you guys kill me! Where does it say no face? You can still take a pic of someone from behind and still have face in it! Ya I know it's open to interpretation but to be closed minded is frustrating.
See example below.. Taken from behind yet it still has face :)

12/19/2010 02:28:49 PM · #47
.. or no face...

12/19/2010 02:45:04 PM · #48
Originally posted by LVicari:

Man you guys kill me! Where does it say no face? You can still take a pic of someone from behind and still have face in it! Ya I know it's open to interpretation but to be closed minded is frustrating.
See example below.. Taken from behind yet it still has face :)


I have to say that I think the entries will go 50/50 on this one. I too read into the challenge description that there should be no face. But really all it said was take the picture from behind and make sure the subject is wearing clothing. I shot for the head/no face challenge and that's what I entered but I won't mark down for other interpretations.
What I'm more interested in seeing is how the "portrait" part of this gets handled. I found it challenging to try and get an interesting portrait type shot without having facial features (eyes particularly) as the main focal point.
12/19/2010 02:58:26 PM · #49
Originally posted by LVicari:

Man you guys kill me! Where does it say no face? You can still take a pic of someone from behind and still have face in it! Ya I know it's open to interpretation but to be closed minded is frustrating.
See example below.. Taken from behind yet it still has face :)


Agreed... I can't believe how different many people's interpretations are from the actually title/description..

Speaking of, I've been told I can promise you ass-crack in this one... Hopefully that'll distract the anal folks enough so they'll be able to give fair scores to everyone else...
12/19/2010 03:19:32 PM · #50
Originally posted by albc28:

Originally posted by pixelpig:

I'm in. A complete no-face. No head at all. And I expect to rock the high 4's with it!

Is this going to be an all Butt challenge? I think I'm going to do a lot of voting in this one!


All butts, all the time. There's a lot of body language in a butt.
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