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07/03/2004 11:38:57 AM · #1
Dont know if you people is aware of this. but the time you spent voting on dpchallenge maybe is waste of time. Big Brother make the final decition at the end.

Your votes were not counted because you gave an average vote of 1.4810.
We feel that since you gave the majority of the photographs 1s that
your votes should not be counted. It's how our voting system works.

-Langdon/DPC

> How Does Voting Work???
> I know this answer is in your FAQ, but Im really
> confused, I went thrue all the pictures in the
> newspaper contest and my page was showing you have
> vote on a 100%, how come the winner is not showing
> my vote?
>
> thanks
> LA
07/03/2004 11:47:11 AM · #2
Because, on a scale of 1-10, most pictures (the large majority) are not deserving of 1s. Now, I feel that if you voted them 1s because they didn't fit the challenge, well that is wrong. Perhaps they can't score over a 4, with 5 being where the photos start and if they fit the challenge.

How long did you spend on each picture to decide that it was a 1? Perhaps spending a bit more time looking at the technical and non-technical aspects and then weighting them might change your idea on what score they deserve.
07/03/2004 11:47:39 AM · #3
ahhh.. I ont think that's how it works exactly. I think that if yu give all ones & one 10, then your votes can be discounted. There are has to be some measure in dealing with people who vote low just for themselves & not what the challenges & this site is truely about. It is also, I imagine a way to keep track of bogus double accounts.
07/03/2004 11:50:49 AM · #4
no it is not a waste of time to vote, and "big brother" does NOT have the final say.
but if the system see's a voter giving too many votes of a certain score the admins look at it to make sure its not someone trying to rock the votes or something like that.

if your average vote was a 1.4810, then yes it will raise a flag and the admins will check it out.

did you really think most of the photos deserved a 1 or a 2 in that challenge? Im just asking and NOT being mad or upset, I am just curious.

James
07/03/2004 11:58:46 AM · #5
I agree -- an average vote of 1.4810 with mostly ones doesn't sound fair and balanced -- someone should do something about that!
07/03/2004 12:10:21 PM · #6
Ok next time Ill just give all 10. happy?
Peace\LA
07/03/2004 12:20:00 PM · #7
Originally posted by abreul:

Ok next time Ill just give all 10. happy?
Peace\LA


Surely you can't believe that, on a scale of ONE to TEN that the average should really have been 1.481?? A "just average" shot should receive between 5 and 5.5, not 1.5, IMO. While there is ample room for divergent opinion on how to score, if you're giving out over half ones, you need to ask yourself why you're taking the time to look at, much less vote on, images that are that outrageously bad. An alternative, though admittedly radical explanation is that you might have severely misjudged the quality of the photos.
07/03/2004 12:24:22 PM · #8
All 10 votes will get you into the same situation.
Didn't you see anything that varied in all the pictures you looked at? You might want to read the tutorial on how to comment and look at and read the comments in a few random challenges to get an idea about creating a scoring system for yourself that takes into consideration such things as exposure, composition, creativity.... I would think it a sad state if there is absolutly no differences in the pictures you are looking at.
Or maybe this just means that we have finally turned everyone into little dpc robots that like and take only one type of picture.
07/03/2004 12:26:25 PM · #9
Originally posted by abreul:

Ok next time Ill just give all 10. happy?
Peace\LA


There is a middel way ;)
07/03/2004 12:28:11 PM · #10
Originally posted by abreul:

Ok next time Ill just give all 10. happy?
Peace\LA


thats NOT what we are saying, its just hard to understand why someone votes so low on SO many photos. Then they get mad for getting they votes thrown out.

If you could help us understand how and why you vote so low thats could clear up a lot of problems.

James
07/03/2004 12:38:08 PM · #11
I think voting here is about as fair as can be expected given the conditions. I'm glad to know that a pattern of excessively low scores draws scrutiny. In my mind, an average score of 1.4 raises more questions about the voter than it does about the system. Not to belabor a cliche, but, what were you thinking? Why did you find our photos so poor in quality? Which challenge?
07/03/2004 01:04:22 PM · #12
If you review the OP's comments made during challenges, you can see, through the insightful, thoughtful, and specific suggestions he offers why he votes the way he does. And yes, sarcasm intended. Doesn't someone have "Don't Feed The Trolls" as a signature line? Methinks we'd be well served to remember that at present.
07/03/2004 01:08:31 PM · #13
Originally posted by abreul:

Ok next time Ill just give all 10. happy?
Peace\LA


how bout not voting at all?
07/03/2004 01:13:36 PM · #14
No witch hunt this week please. He is entitled to make whatever comments is chooses as long as they are within the rules of the toc.
07/03/2004 01:18:36 PM · #15
Hi to you all.

" The Hardest thing to see is what is in front of our eyes."

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

If you people want to follow pattern that's ok with me. None of the pic fill up my taste for photography. that's me ok ME. Is this website host in CUBA or something? They say vote at least 20% of the picture well that make sense dear fellows. But voiding a votation cause is to low that sound to me kind of weird. so in other words this is more like a Survey if they like your anwers we'll take it if not you re out. they do not respect your decitions. wich is ok with me this is not my web site.



Peace /LA


07/03/2004 01:32:27 PM · #16
Originally posted by pcody:

No witch hunt this week please. He is entitled to make whatever comments is chooses as long as they are within the rules of the toc.


No one wants another witch hunt, especially me. The OP started this thread and that, by extension, invites response, dialogue and reaction.

I find it fascinating that someone comes to the site and within a challenge or two they are insisting the voting methods don't work. Frankly, when these concerns are raised by people who've BEEN AROUND awhile I'll give them a lot more weight.

And to the OP -- if you don't like how it works here, you're free to search for a more palatable site to meet your needs. This isn't Cuba. We don't insist everyone stay.

07/03/2004 01:34:17 PM · #17
Originally posted by boomer:

Originally posted by pcody:

No witch hunt this week please. He is entitled to make whatever comments is chooses as long as they are within the rules of the toc.


No one wants another witch hunt, especially me. The OP started this thread and that, by extension, invites response, dialogue and reaction.

I find it fascinating that someone comes to the site and within a challenge or two they are insisting the voting methods don't work. Frankly, when these concerns are raised by people who've BEEN AROUND awhile I'll give them a lot more weight.

And to the OP -- if you don't like how it works here, you're free to search for a more palatable site to meet your needs. This isn't Cuba. We don't insist everyone stay.


/passes a free beer to boomer
07/03/2004 01:35:54 PM · #18
<> :-)
07/03/2004 01:38:09 PM · #19
Originally posted by abreul:


Your votes were not counted because you gave an average vote of 1.4810.


You shouldn't even be here, if your avg vote is a 1.4810

Do us all a favor and spread your pursuit for perfection some place else. This isn't about Big Brother, it's about saving us from people like yourselve.
07/03/2004 01:47:45 PM · #20
give a scale running from 1 to 10, do you feel an average of 1.4 is fair and balanced ? There are other numbers out there than 1 & 10 you know...
07/03/2004 02:09:14 PM · #21
I think GeneralE once mentioned that his kid used to vote everything a 1 or a 10, but he was only 5 years old then, and his tastes have since matured. Welcome to Neverland.
07/03/2004 02:11:52 PM · #22
For those are hurt with my "Comments" .... Im really sorry.
if most of you insist get in me out of here is fine dude. I just dont think is a solution. Why are u guys mad about this? .You Cannot make someone "Vote" and them say we dont like your votation. Like some of you guys think a pic deserve a 10 well that is YOU people not ME we are all diferent. and I'll STILL respect that. but like a said not voiding someones votes because is to low. I did not like it any of the picture for the newspaper contest so I give them all 1. but that was ME. and they should respect that and you guys too. is not they should cancel the votation thing and let them take a decition, them after that, is up to me if I want to submit my photos and be judge by this people.

LA/peace
07/03/2004 02:22:45 PM · #23
It's assumed that if someone votes 1 on every single image in a challenge that they are doing so to raise their own score or to mess with the votes. I'm sure it's hard for a lot of people to understand how every single image earned a 1. It also suggests that if someone found no images they liked in a single challenge that they will likely find no images entered in any challenges here to be enjoyable.
07/03/2004 02:28:40 PM · #24
Originally posted by scalvert:

I think GeneralE once mentioned that his kid used to vote everything a 1 or a 10, but he was only 5 years old then,


I think this says it all, just read the comments he has made !!
07/03/2004 02:28:58 PM · #25
Originally posted by moodville:

It's assumed that if someone votes 1 on every single image in a challenge that they are doing so to raise their own score or to mess with the votes. I'm sure it's hard for a lot of people to understand how every single image earned a 1. It also suggests that if someone found no images they liked in a single challenge that they will likely find no images entered in any challenges here to be enjoyable.


FYI: Soory you re wrong.
Yes I did find some of the pictures in this web site enjoyable.
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