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10/25/2010 03:51:43 AM · #1
Wildlife IV
Wildlife III
Wildlife II
Wildlife I

Although the challenge definition does not include insects or arachnids (spiders) , I found in these "Wildlife" challenge series , some very good pics that were not considered DNMC like
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Should I take the risk and rely on trolls tolerance?
10/25/2010 04:18:50 AM · #2
I'd stay away from bugs.

"For the purpose of this challenge, "wildlife" should be considered non-domesticated mammals, birds, reptiles and amphibians living in a natural environment"
10/25/2010 04:27:09 AM · #3
I was looking at the comments on those photos and just as I suspected, some voters didn't like it because it didn't meet the challenge. You might get lower votes for using insects...so...I don't know. Do what you think is best :)
10/25/2010 05:00:42 AM · #4
THANK YOU BIRDS... they are everywhere and they are wild :P
10/25/2010 05:34:03 AM · #5
Would 'natural environment' include zoos?
10/25/2010 06:38:32 AM · #6
Originally posted by pitrpan:

Would 'natural environment' include zoos?

I believe the consensus in the past was no zoo shots; wildlife in the wild, zoo animals=not in the wild... Just saying.

Message edited by author 2010-10-25 06:39:36.
10/25/2010 06:54:14 AM · #7
Originally posted by pitrpan:

Would 'natural environment' include zoos?


Zoos aren't natural -- they're man-made. Though they're built to mirror a natural environment.
10/25/2010 07:25:36 AM · #8
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Maybe I will see them again and get a good shot before rollover.
10/25/2010 07:49:32 AM · #9
I love wildlife, i want to be a wildlife photographer...yet i know im not going to get a good picture... im just not that good yet. :(
10/25/2010 07:56:21 AM · #10
Originally posted by hojop25:

I love wildlife, i want to be a wildlife photographer...yet i know im not going to get a good picture... im just not that good yet. :(


Know how to get better? Keep trying :)
10/25/2010 08:13:26 AM · #11
If this had been two weeks ago *sigh* I was nose deep in wild monkey craziness anyway I did catch a random scene when I was strolling in my local park..

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I nearly didn't get it because the birds were too fast for me. Is it the mating season because these birds never appear this near the ground?

Message edited by author 2010-10-25 08:14:00.
10/25/2010 08:21:37 AM · #12
Originally posted by hojop25:

I love wildlife, i want to be a wildlife photographer...yet i know im not going to get a good picture... im just not that good yet. :(

A place to start: When I know I'm going to be photographing wildlife, I wilI always preset my camera to Aperture priority with wide open aperture (smallest f/ number on your lens). And, I'll preset ISO to 400. And, I'll use a solid tripod with my telephoto lens. I use a tripod 99% of the time, especially in low light situations. If there isn't abundant light, I won't hesitate to boost the ISO to 800, 1000 or 1200. If the scene is exposed correctly, as in not a lot of closed shadows, electronic noise is usually manageable at the higher ISO speeds. The goal is to achieve a shutter speed fast enough to capture detail on the animal. Animals move a lot and I'm usually most happy when I can photograph animals between 1/400s and 1/2500s. Also, I usually convert my focus points from normal 9 down to the center one. Then, I'll place that center focus point on the eye of the animal hoping the depth-of-field plane covers the entire head and some of the body. This depends on the lens, the distance, the aperture size and the size of the animal. If I'm very close to a large animal (say, 30'), I'll stop down the lens a bit to increase the depth-of-field plane slightly. Most of the time, it's advantageous to keep the lens aperture near wide open to create a pleasantly blurred background bokeh. For this challenge, I'll want an "environmental" image, so that means I'll be capturing the entire animal with enough frame image for the animal to move forward and overall show the nature surroundings/habitat of the creature.

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Message edited by author 2010-10-25 09:05:07.
10/25/2010 09:37:24 AM · #13
This would be great if I can get a shot of this Huge old Gray colored deer I keep seeing. I've never seen one that color before, and thing is as big as a moose. lol. I call him the grampa deer, and he's very very sneaky, and extremely hard to spot, I've actually been out seeking him, but no luck this past week. I think thats why he's survived this long...he's a very good hider.
Anyone have any ideas how to attract deer?
10/25/2010 10:45:16 AM · #14
African Wildlife

Canadian Wiildlife

Message edited by author 2010-10-25 12:05:55.
10/25/2010 11:12:55 AM · #15
Originally posted by liberty:

This would be great if I can get a shot of this Huge old Gray colored deer I keep seeing. I've never seen one that color before, and thing is as big as a moose. lol. I call him the grampa deer, and he's very very sneaky, and extremely hard to spot, I've actually been out seeking him, but no luck this past week. I think thats why he's survived this long...he's a very good hider.
Anyone have any ideas how to attract deer?


Well they passed a law in Michigan (noticed from your profile that is where you live) a year or two ago that made using food (corn, salt likes etc) against the law. Previously you could put out food to attract deer for the purpose of seeing them but for hunting it was illegal. Because people abused this and would hunt near where they put the food a law was passed to make any kind of baiting (even for viewing) against the law. Now I am not advocating breaking the law but putting some feed corn (can get at most feed stores) out for a few days would do the trick.
10/25/2010 02:13:22 PM · #16
Originally posted by liberty:

This would be great if I can get a shot of this Huge old Gray colored deer I keep seeing. I've never seen one that color before, and thing is as big as a moose. lol. I call him the grampa deer, and he's very very sneaky, and extremely hard to spot, I've actually been out seeking him, but no luck this past week. I think thats why he's survived this long...he's a very good hider.
Anyone have any ideas how to attract deer?


Grunt. Loudly.

Message edited by author 2010-10-25 14:13:34.
10/25/2010 02:23:53 PM · #17
Originally posted by Simms:

Originally posted by liberty:

This would be great if I can get a shot of this Huge old Gray colored deer I keep seeing. I've never seen one that color before, and thing is as big as a moose. lol. I call him the grampa deer, and he's very very sneaky, and extremely hard to spot, I've actually been out seeking him, but no luck this past week. I think thats why he's survived this long...he's a very good hider.
Anyone have any ideas how to attract deer?


Grunt. Loudly.

Biology Of The Rut The white-tailed and black-tailed (mule) deer rut is now in Colorado. 6-7 months gestation means fawns on the ground in May-June 2011.
Doc's Dominant Buck Urine
10/25/2010 03:04:49 PM · #18
Originally posted by The_Tourist:

Originally posted by pitrpan:

Would 'natural environment' include zoos?

I believe the consensus in the past was no zoo shots; wildlife in the wild, zoo animals=not in the wild... Just saying.


No zoo shots was my first impression also, but I notice that a lot of the top shots in past challenges were from either zoos or bird sanctuaries.

Message edited by author 2010-10-25 15:06:34.
10/25/2010 03:11:27 PM · #19
Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by Simms:

Originally posted by liberty:

This would be great if I can get a shot of this Huge old Gray colored deer I keep seeing. I've never seen one that color before, and thing is as big as a moose. lol. I call him the grampa deer, and he's very very sneaky, and extremely hard to spot, I've actually been out seeking him, but no luck this past week. I think thats why he's survived this long...he's a very good hider.
Anyone have any ideas how to attract deer?


Grunt. Loudly.

Biology Of The Rut The white-tailed and black-tailed (mule) deer rut is now in Colorado. 6-7 months gestation means fawns on the ground in May-June 2011.
Doc's Dominant Buck Urine


I`m liking the sound of THIS ONE.

A few dabs of this behind your ear, assume the position and hang on!!! I tried to order some and they said "Ball or Aerosol" - I said "Neither, its for my underarms..."

I`m here all week, try the veal and don`t forget to tip your waitress.

Message edited by author 2010-10-25 15:12:26.
10/25/2010 03:22:53 PM · #20
Originally posted by dswann:

No zoo shots was my first impression also, but I notice that a lot of the top shots in past challenges were from either zoos or bird sanctuaries.


The problem is you kinda need to assume it was taken in the wild as it is pretty much impossible to tell during voting, unless you can see the cage in the shot.
10/25/2010 03:28:32 PM · #21
Originally posted by jminso:

Originally posted by dswann:

No zoo shots was my first impression also, but I notice that a lot of the top shots in past challenges were from either zoos or bird sanctuaries.


The problem is you kinda need to assume it was taken in the wild as it is pretty much impossible to tell during voting, unless you can see the cage in the shot.


Aye. If someone takes a zoo shot that looks perfectly natural, then whatever. It's not like it's going to be DQ'ed when the challenge is over. Heck, the photographer doesn't even need to SAY it was in a zoo if they don't want to. Not everyone has access to the "great outdoors", and I'd rather a zoo shot than a pigeon (no offense Melethia).

Blah, blah, blah "spirit of the challenge" and all that, but we should be realistic too.
10/25/2010 04:37:53 PM · #22
What about "parks" that intentionally try to create the natural environment?
10/25/2010 05:25:14 PM · #23
Originally posted by FocusPoint:

THANK YOU BIRDS... they are everywhere and they are wild :P

Don't know why, but thought of Fotomann_Forever when I read this comment... Because I'm sure he knows a bird or two to take a photo of ;)
10/25/2010 06:18:03 PM · #24
Originally posted by jnenvir:

What about "parks" that intentionally try to create the natural environment?


Well uhmm if we see a lion/tiger/giraffe against a bg of Canadian fall foliage, it may not be entirely convincing...use your judgement and see how it shakes out. Good luck!
10/25/2010 06:58:31 PM · #25
do my kids count as wildlife?
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