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11/10/2010 05:57:29 PM · #1
If you truly are forward-thinking, you'll only buy FX lenses. You'll get there eventually.

Message edited by author 2010-11-10 18:22:32.
11/10/2010 05:02:51 PM · #2
Originally posted by cowtownmom:

...So dream big, make a list, then ask for help in how to get your list...


Also looking at the the high end you'll see the features that will eventually trickle down to the more affordable models. (i.e into your hands).
11/10/2010 04:44:00 PM · #3
Originally posted by cowtownmom:



We are looking at converting an extra bedroom into a studio ....


Oh really? Very cool@! I'm a little jealous...
11/10/2010 04:36:40 PM · #4
Get a Nikon D3100 and nikon 35mm F1.8 lens.
11/07/2010 10:58:57 AM · #5
My suggestion is that you consider not just he purchase of the camera but what you 'overall' want for your photography. I am finding, newly returning to this artform, that my desires have changed in the last 4 months. Whether it's studio lights, a better lens, new bag, triggers, etc. My overall options and wants have changed drastically.

We are looking at converting an extra bedroom into a studio therefore need background, different flooring,(mostly because the room got flooded by the washing machine), better lenses, etc. So dream big, make a list, then ask for help in how to get your list. My husband, ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' yo_spiff has purchased from guys here, craigslist, and other places. We don't have a lot of disposable income for this so he is definitely the bargain shopper. He researches what's the best choice and then hunts for the best deal.

So dream, make a list and then set a purchase schedule. Some things are expensive and others are not. Lighting can go either way, price wise. I think the cost of things has surprised me. I knew that lenses and other equipment would be quite pricey but other things and ways to make do or create what's needed has been a hugh surprise.

The best part of all this is the fun of it. Think about what you want to play with.

11/06/2010 09:14:05 PM · #6
If you want to do low light, the Canon T1i does quite well, and it is at the top end of your price range. There have been many times that when I looked at the stats on a photo, I was surprised to see ISO-1600 or ISO-800. A lens that opens up more helps, but each doubling of the ISO is like getting an extra f-stop.
If you want to see an example of the T1i in a low light, fast action shot, look at my picture XANADU
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shot during a live performance under stage lights, hand-held, no flash. f/5 1/250 sec at ISO 1600 at roughly 60mm with the Tamron zoom. Note that the dancer is completely off the floor. Another plus - at that performance, I took 2,740 pictures without changing the battery or memory card (16G speed 10 SD). While one might argue the wisdom of taking so many pictures, it is nice to know the camera can do it.


Message edited by author 2010-11-06 21:28:21.
11/04/2010 06:32:54 AM · #7
Always had Canon cameras so I like them over Nikon but both are great cameras. Just got a Canon 7D and its an amazing camera. If you go for Nikon then there new D7000 is the pick if its in your budget or the Canon D7 which would be its main competitor.
11/04/2010 03:02:19 AM · #8
Originally posted by velocityvisual:

I'm on the verge of a new body myself, I was going to go with Nikon because they have a massive backlog of lenses, or so I'm told? I have no problem with used, and if Nikon has 2x the amount of used lenses out there then that's what I was going to go with.

Is this true?


All Nikon bodies will accept lenses from way back to 1977. Before that, it gets more complex. Before '77, they made Pre/Non-AI lenses which can be and were often converted to function like AI lenses. Some bodies will accept Pre-AI lenses without modification, but with limited function. Nikon bodies without a screw AF motor will not drive autofocus on non-AFS lenses, but these lenses will function fine manually. There are also some oddball lenses that have a projecting rear element that cannot be used, but like I said, they're sorta the oddballs. A more detailed explanation can be found here
All Canon lenses back to 1987 will mount with full function with the caveat that the 5D, 5dmkII, and 1D series require EF lenses. All other bodies accept EF and EF-S lenses.
Bodies that accept Pentax have a ton of old lenses as well, but you'll have to talk to somebody who knows more about that system than me for anything more.
Your Sony will also accept a good variety of lenses- All A-mount lenses from Sony/Minolta/Konica Minolta.

The used market is seemingly more saturated with Canon lenses than Nikon (my own observation), but, while there are more numerically, they seem to all be the same lenses over and over again (the kit lenses).

ETA: Clarity

Message edited by author 2010-11-04 03:15:08.
11/04/2010 12:32:29 AM · #9
I'm on the verge of a new body myself, I was going to go with Nikon because they have a massive backlog of lenses, or so I'm told? I have no problem with used, and if Nikon has 2x the amount of used lenses out there then that's what I was going to go with.

Is this true?
11/03/2010 08:21:59 PM · #10
Originally posted by jminso:

Originally posted by medinfo2000:

It appears the best(at least the most popular)cameras are either a Canon or Nikon, but which one IS best? I would really appreciate any help/advice you may give me


That depends, do you want an Apple or an Orange? Seriously though as far as brands go both are great so I wouldn't worry too much on wether the camera has Canon or Nikon written on the front. Research models from both and base it on that. As far as Canon, since that is what I am most familiar with, I really enjoy the 7D but that may be a bit high. I have heard great things on the 50D though. I would look into that and then I would look at a nice ultra wide zoom and a medium telephoto such as the 18-135. Won't get you close for wildlife but the longer lenses go up quite a bit. Maybe even look at a cheaper camera (Rebel XS or T2i) and spend more on the focal ranges you want.


Apple or Oranges? Boring, I went for a Fruit Salad, bought an Olympus and had all the fruits in the world :P

But, on a serious note, I wouldn't limit your self to cameras just because of the name on the front, DxO labs just released some interesting results showing the sensor performance from Sony's Alpha series is the best of any APS-C yet, and they have some really great glass too.
10/29/2010 07:47:42 AM · #11
Hasselblad and H4D-60
10/29/2010 05:27:44 AM · #12
Originally posted by yelopq:

Canon and 40D

I'm for whatever yelopq says. It like Christmas.
10/29/2010 05:20:29 AM · #13
Originally posted by coryboehne:

You are quite knowledgeable about camera LSDR's aren't you?

Or even DSLRs!
10/29/2010 03:51:39 AM · #14
Originally posted by yelopq:

Canon and 40D


LOL.. You are quite knowledgeable about camera LSDR's aren't you?

Message edited by author 2010-10-29 03:51:50.
10/26/2010 09:45:34 PM · #15
Canon and 40D
10/26/2010 05:29:23 PM · #16
Canon 40D. Hands down.
10/26/2010 05:09:37 PM · #17
Just to weigh in with a very different option:

The Canon S90's low light performance is pretty shockingly good, as a matter of a fact, I find nighttime street photography to be very doable, largely because the lens is f/2.0 at the wide end..

But in reality, you're asking about shooting one of the most difficult situations, namely - fast action in super low light - I've recently been exposed to the full glory of the 1D mk IV, and it's certainly a very nice camera, but I was quite surprised at how bad it performed in super low light conditions, granted, it's quite a bit better than my 50D, but nowhere near as good as I had expected..

What I'm saying is this: Even a shit-ton of money can't work miracles, so don't worry too much about the details, as either a very modern P&S (low resolution, 10mp or so), an interchangeable lens mirrorless, a 50D (or any xxD), or even a used 5D (~$1000) all will work well.. The bigger factor to consider here is if you do go with a SLR, then you'll need to carefully research the lens(es) you will want, as I've got way more money in glass than I do in bodies, and I still want more glass...
10/26/2010 04:52:14 PM · #18
Does Zenit still make cameras? You can throw it at a tank and the tank will break, not the camera. :)
10/26/2010 03:31:01 PM · #19
Originally posted by JH:

Originally posted by JeffryZ:

Canon people will say Canon and Nikon people will tell you Canon.

lol...


OOps!
10/26/2010 08:48:30 AM · #20
Ford or Chevy? Coke or Pepsi? Mac or Windows?

6 of one = half a dozen of the other. Both are great, just depends how user friendly each one seems to you.
10/26/2010 08:02:34 AM · #21
I would go with the 55-250f4/5.6 IS over the 75-300mm f4/5.6 becuase the 55-250 has built in image stabilization, the 75-300 does not.

amazon has the T1i with the 18-55 kit lens and a 55-250mm IS lens.

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$834, pretty good deal.

I used the 55-250 IS lens when i took these:

from waaaaaaaaaaay out in left field.

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Message edited by author 2010-10-26 08:03:28.
10/26/2010 07:42:58 AM · #22
Looked at B&H for your budget, I found this:
Canon EOS Rebel T1i Digital SLR Camera (Camera Body) $570
Canon Zoom Telephoto EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 III Autofocus $160
from //www.bhphotovideo.com

I shoot sports, and generally I don't shoot at f/2.8 because the short DOF misses some of the action.
So the higher F-stop should not be an issue.

I have not used the body or lens myself, but have recommended them for photographers on a tighter budget.
Though I did buy the nifty fifty - 50mm f/1.8 - I do not recommend this lens. Noisy, slow, hard to use manually.
Perhaps I am spoiled by L glass, but I was not impressed at all. I never use it.

Definitely go to a camera store or even a pawn shop, hold the cameras in your own hands, we are all different.
Good luck, and enjoy your newest adventure! (but not your last)

I agree with JeffryZ too:
Originally posted by JeffryZ:
Canon people will say Canon and Nikon people will tell you Canon.
(Seems an obvious choice!!)
10/26/2010 05:11:12 AM · #23
Originally posted by jminso:

Van Gogh could hand me the brush that he used to do Starry Night and I couldn't come close to what he did.

Bunch of purple and blue swirls with yellow blobs on top. Not that hard really... ;-)
10/26/2010 05:09:28 AM · #24
Originally posted by JeffryZ:

Canon people will say Canon and Nikon people will tell you Canon.

lol...
10/25/2010 07:13:02 PM · #25
that's my point, the OP doesn't need to spend a tons of money on a dslr. just something that fits their needs.
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