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10/21/2010 06:24:31 AM · #26
Another Av user, occasionally Tv, and I've recently started using manual when I use flash. I don't think I've ever used P on my 400D.
10/21/2010 06:40:30 AM · #27
99.9% M
sometimes the setting gets moved in my bag,
then I am confused until I can switch back to M.
That way I own all of my low DP scores!
10/21/2010 07:03:25 AM · #28
I use all Manual when I am doing off camera lighting. I also use AP and TV depending on what when and where I am shooting. I also will go back to Manual quite a bit even without off camera lighting, it just gives me more control. I never use Program mode and I never ever use any of the full auto modes.
10/21/2010 07:13:02 AM · #29
I've never actually understood what P mode is for!

I probably use M and A equally and S for about 1% of shots when I want some movement.

Message edited by author 2010-10-21 07:13:22.
10/21/2010 07:15:18 AM · #30
i like to use the predefined setting modes, like landscape and scene.

Just kidding.

I only use P if i'm doing candid shots around the house where the lighting is constantly changing, i mainly shoot A or Tv for challenge entries. M when i am really playing around or when i need to control the exposure time.
10/21/2010 07:29:58 AM · #31
Holy s***, there is a "P" setting on the 7D! Thanks for making me look for it. :-P

49% M
49% Av
3% Tv

...'cause I always give more than 100%
10/21/2010 09:08:07 AM · #32
When I was shooting with njsabs she showed me a cool tip. When you are in really bright sunlight, you get very close to your model, and half press the shutter button in p-mode and you will see the settings that you need to be at to get proper exposure on your model. pretty cool.
10/21/2010 09:24:02 AM · #33
Oh dear, I use TV like 70% of the time.. it hasn't even occurred to me to use AV because I go straight to manual.. I wasn't even sure what p did actually
10/21/2010 09:57:25 AM · #34
I P quite often... oh, wait, we're talking about our cameras? LOL! Guilty. I use P mode most of the time because it's just easier. On the rare occasions I move the dial to M, I usually forget to change it back and end up missing stuff because my settings are whacked. I'm not even sure what Tv & Av do.
10/21/2010 10:04:01 AM · #35
Originally posted by smardaz:

When I was shooting with njsabs she showed me a cool tip. When you are in really bright sunlight, you get very close to your model, and half press the shutter button in p-mode and you will see the settings that you need to be at to get proper exposure on your model. pretty cool.


See, see...I learned something else. Nice trick! You would think coming from the film days I wouldn't be so afraid of M, but I rarely use it (yet)! Guess since I'm not paying for film, what's the harm. I don't shoot for anyone else, so...
10/21/2010 10:19:10 AM · #36
Originally posted by tanguera:

Just a year ago, I was all about presets. These days it's manual 100% of the time. Of course, half of that time I don't know what I'm doing, so anything good is just plain luck :-)


HA this sounds like me!
I just recently switched to M mode (mostly cause it's HS football season which equals night games) and am having fun learning things. Since then I've found out alot just playing around stuff.
10/21/2010 10:38:24 AM · #37
Is there any difference in M mode and using the exposure compensation in Av mode? I would think they were pretty comparable, but the Av mode has the benefit of more likely getting a good exposure if you suddenly just have to point and shoot at something.
10/21/2010 10:40:49 AM · #38
I tried Tv many times for sports photography, but I kept running into problems. I'd set it to 1/3000, but suddenly the light would change, and it couldn't open up the aperture any more, and would end up problematic. If I just set my aperture wide open in Av mode, most of the time I'd get the 1/3000 sec, but sometimes it would be less, but it was still metered correctly and not underexposed like the other shot.

I guess I don't know how to make friends with Tv. I'm too busy taking the shot to notice that it's blinking at me that there's no enough light.

Av mode for me -- 98% of the time

Message edited by author 2010-10-21 10:42:15.
10/21/2010 11:28:00 AM · #39
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Is there any difference in M mode and using the exposure compensation in Av mode? I would think they were pretty comparable, but the Av mode has the benefit of more likely getting a good exposure if you suddenly just have to point and shoot at something.


One of the differences is that in Av exposure compensation is limited by most cameras to two or three stops - can't think of much else!
10/21/2010 11:28:41 AM · #40
AV Mode probably 75% of the time, messing with exposure compensation as needed.

M 25% of the time.
10/21/2010 12:21:56 PM · #41
M 99.99 % but I set the aperture to the situation or desired effect and adjust the shutter accordingly. I usually evaluate the light of the scene TTL and further adjust the shutter. For situations where I need shutter priority, I still work in M, but set the aperture appropriately. ISO is also always set.

10/21/2010 12:48:26 PM · #42
Av or manual with the lenses that have that option, and all manual with the rest of my pile of older Ai glass. My Fuji don't even meter with the manual glass, so my usual procedure is to guess a starting point from experience and chimp the first couple of shots to see what's going to the card, adjust accordingly.
Here's a tip for manual night shooting. Darken the LCD a click or two, so your darkness adjusted eyes will not be causing you to underexpose when you see the brightness of the images in the LCD. I shoot JPG, so underexposure is a problem re noise, making correct exposure even more important.
10/21/2010 02:58:54 PM · #43
Originally posted by SaraR:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Is there any difference in M mode and using the exposure compensation in Av mode? I would think they were pretty comparable, but the Av mode has the benefit of more likely getting a good exposure if you suddenly just have to point and shoot at something.


One of the differences is that in Av exposure compensation is limited by most cameras to two or three stops - can't think of much else!


What are you guys talking about? M does no exposure checking at all.
10/21/2010 03:05:04 PM · #44
Originally posted by posthumous:

What are you guys talking about? M does no exposure checking at all.

But the internal light meter still gives you exposure information. It just leaves it to you as to whether you pay attention to it or not.
10/21/2010 03:06:59 PM · #45
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:

Originally posted by posthumous:

What are you guys talking about? M does no exposure checking at all.

But the internal light meter still gives you exposure information. It just leaves it to you as to whether you pay attention to it or not.

My camera has only an electronic viewfinder, so it automatically previews the exposure with a half-press on the shutter.

I've been shooting mostly in manual for a few months, even when being in P mode would be advantageous because I can't change the manual settings fast enough to compensate with changing conditions. Otherwise, I shoot with Tv when speed is my priority, and Av when DOF is critical but I don't have time to fiddle with the full manual settings (sports, animals, street candids etc.).

Message edited by author 2010-10-21 15:11:02.
10/21/2010 04:51:50 PM · #46
I use what I call my default auto mode. I shoot in A mode, use the exposure compensation, and auto WB & auto ISO with the switch to the higher ISO set at 1/15. I shoot in RAW, and the only exception to my default mode is when I have the luxury of time and setting what I want, then I shoot full manual to get what I want. It's something that I figured out a couple years ago as I want to be able to grab my camera, turn it on, and shoot when I get one of those once-in-a-blue-moon opportunities. I take my camera with me everywhere, so those come up more than you'd think. It took me a while to get the perfect meld (for me) of settings that would work best for the limitations of myself and my camera. It just makes sense to me to take advantage of that expensive processor in my camera.
10/21/2010 05:01:13 PM · #47
On my DSLR, I never P. I almost always A.
On my point and shoot, I do whatever it tells me to, except for disabling the flash which seems to be always ready to broadcast any stealth photography. Well, I also try to remember to get it out of M(ovie) which it seems to want to default to whenever I'm careless about shoving it back into its little carrying case.
10/21/2010 05:10:34 PM · #48
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I use what I call my default auto mode. I shoot in A mode, use the exposure compensation, and auto WB & auto ISO with the switch to the higher ISO set at 1/15. I shoot in RAW, and the only exception to my default mode is when I have the luxury of time and setting what I want, then I shoot full manual to get what I want.


Auto WB and and Auto ISO are independent of the mode dial, you can use them in any mode. Av ought to work better for you than A, because then you'd have the luxury of knowing what one of your parameters is at all times. You can get an image just as quickly in Av as in A, and be within acceptable parameters if Auto ISO is kicking in at the limit of your ability to hand hold the WA lens. I don't think I could stand not knowing what my DOF is gonna be until after I shoot the picture.

I keep my camera at f/8, Av, when it's not in active use.

R.
10/21/2010 05:23:44 PM · #49
nikon A = Canon Av
10/21/2010 09:50:19 PM · #50
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Is there any difference in M mode and using the exposure compensation in Av mode? I would think they were pretty comparable, but the Av mode has the benefit of more likely getting a good exposure if you suddenly just have to point and shoot at something.


Well, the difference is that since you can ignore light changes in M mode, you eliminate the chance of the camera being fooled by changing scenes (like vawendy noted). Lest we forget, there is not any one set exposure that is correct, so if a user is doing several shots under the same circumstances they can set things as needed. How is this different from exposure comp? The settings will not change regardless of what the camera metering is saying, whereas in Aperture priority with exposure comp your shutter speed may vary based on what the camera is metering, causing you to get an over/underexposed shot because of a metering quirk you weren't expecting. You're right about the speed of Av mode, but that's assuming the camera meters how you want it to. Obviously a lot of using aperture mode effectively is having a feel for how your camera will meter and when it is prone to errors, but if you look through a bunch of shots in the same environment you'll notice occasional variances in things.
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