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09/07/2010 05:46:17 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by yanko:
I don't know what the hoopla is all about. The ribbons have been devalued looong ago and the last MFS was sort of a joke anyway. There are few people past and present that were a) good and b) took it seriously. If we ran it again it'll probably just be another dumping ground for certain ribbon hogs to spam us with the same old tired outtakes. |
But we have fresh blood, one of whom you were just talking to. I'd love to see them let loose. Otherwise, if you don't really want to see what people have to offer, why are you here? Don't let the door hit you on the way out... :P |
I already see what others have to offer with the regular challenges. I'd love to see a MFS if people actually took it seriously but you know that's not going to happen. There's no honor system here. You have regular ribbon winners who week in week out take advantage of the wet behind the ears voters. There was a time when you had people like Larus and Kiwi doing the same water drops glass shots we see today but you wouldn't know it if you viewed their profiles. That's because after they learned those gimmicks they moved on to more challenging stuff. Today's crop seems content to just milking the same cow over and over just so their profile page displays a lot of ribbons. I suppose if the ribbons were completely removed from the profile pages and the favorites section given more prominence maybe then there would be a greater incentive to create compelling images that people can actually connect with.
ETA: Oh and I'm not talking about guys like Paul. He seems to know what he's doing. I'm referring to those taking advantage of the situation. They know who they are.
Message edited by author 2010-09-07 17:50:25.
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09/07/2010 05:58:12 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by albc28:
It has probably been said over and over again...and I'm not a master editor...but I think all free study's should be master challenges. Why not let you show off that one thing that you have been working on for the entire month...you don't work on an advanced photo for an entire month, you work on the master edited photo...actually I'd like to see no rules for freestudy's except photos being taken within the challenge, but will settle for masters editing for all freestudys. |
Ooops...I do not support a masters free study...I was spouting off with out thinking lol. I meant I think all Free Study's should be expert editing....please ignore my comment supporting Masters Free Studys! I think Free Study's should open to all members. A masters Free study limits someone coming out of the woodworks to grow and show that they can now hang with the elite.
In the same manner I do not support a under 5 average challenge...what does that do for you? You get a ribbon for being the best of the worst? That's not any fun.
Expert FreeStudy's for everyone!....
Message edited by author 2010-09-07 17:58:56. |
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09/07/2010 06:24:29 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by yanko:
I suppose if the ribbons were completely removed from the profile pages and the favorites section given more prominence maybe then there would be a greater incentive to create compelling images that people can actually connect with. |
How cool would that be. Shameless plug! Now go pick some! |
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09/07/2010 06:52:08 PM · #54 |
LOL, I was looking at my Ribbons and wandering why you guys thought it would be easy.
I have a
Rock
A naked man setting light to my back yard tree
A man holding a sheet and wearing my Ugg (knock off Walmart boots) Boots
A car
Come on guys, it really is diversified, it is not as simple as just saying everyone is going to spout off a winning formula. Or at least I should say for most of us, who have won vastly different set challenges. Most of the time (well at least for me) I know it was simple pure luck that I got a shot that won something. |
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09/07/2010 07:26:42 PM · #55 |
I would love to see another MFS! I regrettably could not enter the last one. (time issues)I would ask SC for a 2 week entry period to allow some time for the peeps to really organize,conjure, build, etc... Something special and unique that this crowd desperately needs.
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09/07/2010 07:48:44 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by LVicari:
I would love to see another MFS! I regrettably could not enter the last one. (time issues)I would ask SC for a 2 week entry period to allow some time for the peeps to really organize,conjure, build, etc... Something special and unique that this crowd desperately needs.
Leo |
Wasn't it a whole month last time? I'd definitely ask for that again. |
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09/07/2010 07:52:00 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by LVicari:
I would love to see another MFS! I regrettably could not enter the last one. (time issues)I would ask SC for a 2 week entry period to allow some time for the peeps to really organize,conjure, build, etc... Something special and unique that this crowd desperately needs.
Leo |
Wasn't it a whole month last time? I'd definitely ask for that again. |
Really? I still couldn't get one done? I guess I meant 2. months :)
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09/07/2010 07:52:32 PM · #58 |
| My request is to have identifier ribbon for masters winners. Each ribbon should have golden edge on them... yeah. |
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09/07/2010 07:55:34 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
My request is to have identifier ribbon for masters winners. Each ribbon should have golden edge on them... yeah. |
Oh! Ya! Some ribbon bling!! Now we're talking. Something to shoot for!
Wheels are turning!
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09/07/2010 08:02:41 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
My request is to have identifier ribbon for masters winners. Each ribbon should have golden edge on them... yeah. |
And when the winner is announced you push everything else to the side on the front page. So if hell froze over and slippy won then it would be something like this...
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09/07/2010 09:25:11 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Ok everybody, out of the pool! Let's keep this positive. The last MFS was a big huzzah for DPC and we had lots of oldtimers come out of the woodwork to provide great shots. Wouldn't it be worth it just to see  De Sousa whip up something from his insane genius? Plus we might see toddhead's wife naked again! |
Just out of curiousity, what is stopping the Masters from doing this in a Free Study? This providing great shots, De Sousa whipping up a masterpiece, people baring their wives... Why not in a Free Study?
Not trying to stir things up, just wondering what makes it so "special" to have an elite challenge? |
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09/07/2010 09:33:13 PM · #62 |
As a riff on this idea, perhaps it would be fun to have the Ribbon Masters compete in a Theme Challenge that is really difficult.
Oh, like an Undomesticated Bunny (Wild Hare) Challenge.
Bet people in this thread can think of even more difficult ones.
:))
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09/07/2010 09:54:16 PM · #63 |
My hope would be that in a MFS, several unusual things would happen:
1) Each entry is carefully thought through and well executed.
2) Each voter, knowing (1), will take more than two seconds to vote on each photo.
3) Entrants, knowing (1) and (2), will feel less constrained by the principles of advertising when shooting (i.e., Keep It Simple, Stupid). If entrants can reasonably expect voters to vote intelligently and deliberately, the amount of ribbon-viable creativity skyrockets.
4) As a product of (1), (2), and (3), the ribbon winners will be something different and the top 10 will be richly diverse, and even groundbreaking.
To those who would be interested in taking this post and, bit by bit, purporting to explain why none of these things would ever happen, I urge you to spend your time otherwise; I would not bother to respond, and I would also hope that others would have better things to do, too. |
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09/07/2010 09:56:35 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Ok everybody, out of the pool! Let's keep this positive. The last MFS was a big huzzah for DPC and we had lots of oldtimers come out of the woodwork to provide great shots. Wouldn't it be worth it just to see De Sousa whip up something from his insane genius? Plus we might see toddhead's wife naked again! |
Just out of curiousity, what is stopping the Masters from doing this in a Free Study? This providing great shots, De Sousa whipping up a masterpiece, people baring their wives... Why not in a Free Study?
Not trying to stir things up, just wondering what makes it so "special" to have an elite challenge? |
Nothing and everything. ;) |
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09/07/2010 10:06:13 PM · #65 |
| Ah. So very clear now. Carry on. |
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09/07/2010 10:19:45 PM · #66 |
Deb, it's not so much what the "Masters" may or may not bring to it, as it is the mindset that the viewers carry with them into the challenge voting. Mycelium put his finger squarely on the pulse of the thing; that would be the best of all possible worlds.
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09/07/2010 10:24:02 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Deb, it's not so much what the "Masters" may or may not bring to it, as it is the mindset that the viewers carry with them into the challenge voting. Mycelium put his finger squarely on the pulse of the thing; that would be the best of all possible worlds.
R. |
Yet we all know the reality. |
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09/07/2010 10:41:10 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Deb, it's not so much what the "Masters" may or may not bring to it, as it is the mindset that the viewers carry with them into the challenge voting. Mycelium put his finger squarely on the pulse of the thing; that would be the best of all possible worlds.
R. |
Yet we all know the reality. |
Yet I would certainly try harder. I use a free study to enter the best shot that I've taken that month. I don't specifically go out and shoot for a free study. I use it to show what I was already doing, regardless of DPC -- the type of thing I like to shoot and do for fun.
A master's free study would be different. I would want to try to enter something that could compete with the best of the best. I wouldn't simply enter something that I liked -- I would try to enter something better than I'd ever done before. Whether or not I could reach that level is debatable, but I'd certainly try.
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09/07/2010 10:42:41 PM · #69 |
Masters Free Study with Basic Minimal editing... now, that's something I want to see :-|
Message edited by author 2010-09-07 22:49:47. |
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09/07/2010 11:26:28 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
As a riff on this idea, perhaps it would be fun to have the Ribbon Masters compete in a Theme Challenge that is really difficult.
Oh, like an Undomesticated Bunny (Wild Hare) Challenge.
Bet people in this thread can think of even more difficult ones.
:)) |
Or perhaps coconut totin' unladen swallows...
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09/07/2010 11:31:15 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by sfalice:
As a riff on this idea, perhaps it would be fun to have the Ribbon Masters compete in a Theme Challenge that is really difficult.
Oh, like an Undomesticated Bunny (Wild Hare) Challenge.
Bet people in this thread can think of even more difficult ones.
:)) |
Or perhaps coconut totin' unladen swallows... |
European or African swallow? |
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09/07/2010 11:42:42 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Yet I would certainly try harder. |
Ribbon winners trying harder to win ribbons? Sounds like my idea of hell.
Don't try, be. |
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09/08/2010 09:34:41 AM · #73 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Ribbon winners trying harder to win ribbons? Sounds like my idea of hell. |
ROFL!! |
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09/08/2010 11:02:37 AM · #74 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Yet I would certainly try harder. |
Ribbon winners trying harder to win ribbons? Sounds like my idea of hell.
Don't try, be. |
That's what I've been doing in each free study up until now -- being.
It would be fun to do something different than be.
Anyway, there hasn't been one since I've been here. I think it would be fascinating to see.
Message edited by author 2010-09-08 13:31:26.
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09/08/2010 11:36:14 AM · #75 |
great idea
only every one with a average of 7 is aloud to vote
have fun
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