September 2010, BW "Out-of-Camera" Side-Challenge

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark III

08/29/2010 10:24:32 PM · #1

Ok, in this thread I suggested "BW (in camera) no editing, resize only" challenge. While management(!) is thinking about it, let's see if you are up to this kind of challenge.

Here are the rules,
1-Pictures must be taken in September 2010, any dates (in September) are fine, and no requirement for post-per-day.
2-Set your camera to take photos in BW, try not to cheat since this is not an official challenge... you'd be fooling yourself.
3-JPG please, RAW seems like keeping all the color information even if set to take BW.
4-Do not edit or crop your image (no sharpening or contrast... no editing at all. In camera settings only). This will make you try harder to compose your shots from the viewfinder at once. Most cameras do support BW, sharpening and contrast set before shot taken.
5-Comment on the previous photo always (at least one of them if more than one posted at once). That would be nice if you can do more, but at least one should do just fine.
6-There is no name list for this side challenge, jump in whenever you want starting September 1st 2010

It would be also nice to fill out image information at the image page such as ISO settings, Shutter speed etc. That would help us to compare some of our own work.

(I will bump it to make this thread up to date)

Message edited by author 2010-09-01 21:07:13.

roz

Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 60mm 1:2.8 Macro

08/30/2010 12:13:16 AM · #2

hey leo .. from the easiest side challenge wotever to something a lot more difficult .. i might jump in sometimes .. i've never used in camera b&w so it would be interesting and challenging, especially with no processing after either .. i'd definitely be boosting the sharpening in the camera .. :)

tanguera

Nikon D750

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

08/30/2010 02:09:42 AM · #3

Geez, I'm torn. This sc or the phone camera sc...???? I may pop in here now and then.

08/30/2010 06:49:40 AM · #4

Because of the difficulty(!) of this SC, there is no list of people. If you think you got a shot within the rules, post it here. Remember, very important that you set your BW in camera, don't convert your colors into BW after the shot, and resize only, absolutely no other editing after the shot. It might be time to read your Camera manual how to set contrast and sharpness "before" the shot using "in camera" settings.

FourPointX

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

08/30/2010 07:43:35 AM · #5

sounds great Leo...especially to a pp klutz!

Joe

08/30/2010 10:51:54 PM · #6

*** Study Purposes, not for the SC ***

Contrast and Sharpening all the way up for all three images. First image had a little dark filter on the lens, and third image had "Yellow" filter set in camera.

These are resized unedited images from my 30D. I realized that RAW is not good for BW, you have to select JPG in your camera. When I open BW RAW images with PS, it brings me up a color version. Unless if you know how to fix this in RAW, JPG is required for this SC.

As you can see, in camera options can bring up nice tones for a BW photo. I am sure with flashes and better settings for your own camera, should get you better results.

08/31/2010 04:30:33 AM · #7

Bump...

Please read the SC rules. I hope you will join :)

08/31/2010 07:59:37 AM · #8

Fuji don't have built in software color filters, so, maybe it's time to dig out the old red, yellow, blue, orange, and green screw on ones. I think that I still have a set somewhere.

08/31/2010 08:01:00 AM · #9

Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:

Fuji don't have built in software color filters, so, maybe it's time to dig out the old red, yellow, blue, orange, and green screw on ones. I think that I still have a set somewhere.

Whatever works... just like the good old days :)

jomari

Nikon AF-S DX 18-105 f/3.5-5.6 ED VR

08/31/2010 08:19:35 AM · #10

This is not the sort of thing I do ... so I think I need to do it.

09/01/2010 12:16:01 AM · #11

Dark lens filter, no flash. On the back, there are umbrellas with model lights on. In camera sharpening and contrast all the way up.

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Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

09/01/2010 08:06:57 AM · #12

Bump

turnofthesue

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

09/01/2010 09:20:05 AM · #13

Bkjeldgaard

Kodak Z980

09/01/2010 08:43:52 PM · #14

I'm newer to this site so forgive me if this is a stupid question....do we try and submit a new photo each day in September? I get the rules. Just wondering if it's an everyday submission SC.

09/01/2010 08:46:13 PM · #15

This is not an everyday or one photo a day SC... Whenever you have a BW out of camera shot(s), just post them. Make sure to include all the settings information, on the image page such as ISO, F-stop and shutter speed with any other filters used on lens or on camera settings. This would help us to try some more sots to perfect our experience :-)

Bkjeldgaard

Kodak Z980

09/01/2010 08:48:15 PM · #16

Originally posted by turnofthesue:

Love how it looks like he/she's smiling. :) And how his/her coloring totally fits the challenge. Can't find a much better subject than that.

09/01/2010 08:58:53 PM · #17

My own shadow

Candle holder on our balcony

Apartment's pool (open 12 months)

Kids are getting to play some fun-time games

EDIT: *** You don't have to comment all photos of a post (as in this one) just choice one :) If you do comment more than one, it is appreciated but not SC rule :) ***

Message edited by author 2010-09-01 21:01:44.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

09/01/2010 11:28:16 PM · #18

This S C is going to push the envelope for me a bit, because I hardly ever shoot directly B&W. I am posting the original cam file, at reduced size, along with the version edited using only iPhoto basic edit tools. This one is not much to see. I have to learn to read the LCD in B&W better I guess.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

09/01/2010 11:35:50 PM · #19

Yes, Leo, to shoot B&W in camera, it has to be the jpg. The RAW, by definition, is the raw set of pixels the sensor captured. To the best of my knowledge, no one has made a camera with a sensor that only captures in monochrome. :-)

I'd love to play in this. That would require having time to shoot. Sigh.... But I'll stop by and comment from time to time if that's OK!

09/02/2010 12:08:36 AM · #20

Originally posted by Melethia:

Absolutely... and yes, jpg is better because the camera converts the image to monochrome and just keeps it that way. We can assume in camera contrast and sharpening settings equivalent to film washes. By playing with those, we can find the perfect settings for our picture. This SC is time consuming, I do understand, that's why I don't have a "join list" and daily posts are not required.... whenever whatever during September 2010, as long as taken within the rules ;)

old timers right now probably enjoying this more than others :)

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

09/02/2010 12:42:03 AM · #21

I found part my color filter set. Now I need to find a reducing ring. The filters are 49mm and the old Nikon Ai lenses are mostly 52mm filter thread size. I can still use the filters but will likely have to use f5.6 or smaller in order to avoid vignette. Maybe a broad rubber band would hold the filters on the lenses well enough to shoot as long as I don't get too rowdy.
This S C does remind me of 30 years ago when I was shooting and developing a lot of 35mm B&W. I liked E200 slide film a lot at that time too, because what you shot was what you got, instead of "auto adjusted" prints.
I noticed today that my ever handy P&S Fuji A920 has no provision for shooting in B&W. : P I get a lot of good photos with it because I keep it with me all the time, but I guess that all that I put in this S C will have to be shot with the S3.

Message edited by author 2010-09-02 00:45:49.

FourPointX

Canon EOS-60D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

09/02/2010 07:15:18 AM · #22

chillin with the puppy

turnofthesue

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

09/02/2010 02:56:09 PM · #23

09/02/2010 07:50:03 PM · #24

No time to fill in the details right now. Stay tuned for an update late tonight. I might figure out how to do this with some practice. I am working on seeing if changing the WB settings has any effect on how the images look in B&W. I am wondering if setting a custom WB on the sky will change how sky looks in the B&W images. I can see a little change by going to full sun WB to Auto, to cloudy day WB.

Message edited by author 2010-09-02 20:27:37.

jomari