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07/30/2010 12:58:10 AM · #1 |
Here is the Wikipedia entry on Minimalism..
Certainly worth reading before voting / entering... |
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07/30/2010 01:04:19 AM · #2 |
I totalllllllllllly agree!~!
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07/30/2010 02:03:34 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by JustCaree:
I totalllllllllllly agree!~! |
So after reading this you two know where you're going with this challenge? I've been interested in art all my life, have been reading art-speak for most of it, and I'm still too obtuse to understand much of it. |
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07/30/2010 02:10:21 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by jomari:
Originally posted by JustCaree:
I totalllllllllllly agree!~! |
So after reading this you two know where you're going with this challenge? I've been interested in art all my life, have been reading art-speak for most of it, and I'm still too obtuse to understand much of it. |
Well, I knew before reading this where I was going, but that's not really the point. :)
I'm not sure I understand the movement 100%, but I think I understand the core motivation well enough to execute an honest representation of the style. |
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07/30/2010 02:24:02 AM · #5 |
| Having said what I did, I must add that I used to be able to convince examiners that I knew what I was talking about, which only makes me wonder how much anyone does. |
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07/30/2010 02:45:15 AM · #6 |
| Whew! Good thing you posted this. I was totally thinking "minimalism" applied to the voting itself. |
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07/30/2010 02:56:49 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Whew! Good thing you posted this. I was totally thinking "minimalism" applied to the voting itself. |
Don't feel so bad Ken... I thought he meant mintamalism
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07/30/2010 06:32:51 AM · #8 |
Michael Scott (The Office): Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information. |
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07/30/2010 07:17:25 AM · #9 |
So I imagine my Bovine entry  would have worked here... Probably would have scored just as mediocre though. |
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07/30/2010 07:37:17 AM · #10 |
*sigh* if only i was a member,
i would love to enter this one. |
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07/30/2010 09:38:37 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by klkitchens:
Michael Scott (The Office): Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information. |
Anybody can correct them too. I challenge you to find an article that is totally wrong or states something totally untrue on that site.
On a side note.
What's the opposite of minimalism? Maximalism? ;\
Message edited by author 2010-07-30 09:40:58. |
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07/30/2010 09:41:45 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by jminso:
So I imagine my Bovine entry would have worked here... Probably would have scored just as mediocre though. |
In my opinion, that would work for "negative space," not "minimalism." This is the problem - the dictionary definition isn't in the challenge description, so everyone thinks you gotta put a small subject in a gigantic image to get "minimalism."
"minimalism: design or style in which the simplest and fewest elements are used to create the maximum effect" -The image above kinda works according to this definition. The shape of the clouds and the detail in the cow give it a bit too much complexity.
"minimal art: a chiefly American style in painting and sculpture that developed in the 1960s largely in reaction against abstract expressionism, shunning illusion, decorativeness, and emotional subjectivity in favor of impersonality, simplification of form, and the use of often massive, industrially produced materials for sculpture, and extended its influence to architecture, design, dance, theater, and music. Also called ABC art, minimalism, rejective art." - The image above does not shun emotional subjectivity, is not impersonal, and it's not that simple in form, so DNMC :)
minimalist interior design
I'd consider this to be minimalist photography.
Message edited by author 2010-07-30 09:54:21. |
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07/30/2010 09:54:53 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by klkitchens:
Michael Scott (The Office): Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information. |
Anybody can correct them too. I challenge you to find an article that is totally wrong or states something totally untrue on that site.
On a side note.
What's the opposite of minimalism? Maximalism? ;\ |
For example: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding
They outright call it torture. Not "classified by some as a form of torture". Opinion is very clearly divided on this issue. I tried once to correct this to be factually accurate -- not deny, not claim -- and got slapped down by the powers that be. There *IS* an editorial board who enforce their opinions on many of the articles. Wikipedia is NOT purely objective. In fact several articles resort to what they themselves call "consensus" or "majority opinion".
That said, I doubt there is any political motive against the definition of "minimalism" -- it's just a good line.
And funny that people run to Wikipedia as their first line of defense for looking things up. I would have been more inclined to refer to a photography site for a definition. |
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07/30/2010 09:56:48 AM · #14 |
I can look at the pictures on Wikipedia...
It would be nice, though, if "minimalism" weren't treated strictly as a synonym for "lots of negative space," even though that's what my entry will be if I can't figure out how to reshoot it properly. |
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07/30/2010 09:57:59 AM · #15 |
| I don't have any ideas. This is a challenge I will enter if I encounter an appropriate scene or a flash of inspiration hits me. |
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07/30/2010 10:06:34 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by jsadlek:
*sigh* if only i was a member,
i would love to enter this one. |
well join up!!! |
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07/30/2010 10:08:25 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by jomari:
Originally posted by JustCaree:
I totalllllllllllly agree!~! |
So after reading this you two know where you're going with this challenge? I've been interested in art all my life, have been reading art-speak for most of it, and I'm still too obtuse to understand much of it. |
I already had my plan into action with this one.... :) before the article.
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07/30/2010 10:16:37 AM · #18 |
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07/30/2010 10:19:04 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by JustCaree:
Originally posted by jsadlek:
*sigh* if only i was a member,
i would love to enter this one. |
well join up!!! |
unfortunately paying off bills comes before dpchallenge membership. |
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07/30/2010 10:24:56 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by klkitchens:
For example: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding
They outright call it torture. Not "classified by some as a form of torture". Opinion is very clearly divided on this issue. |
That's because it's bloody obvious it is torture. Only an idiot, or someone who advocates it's use as a legitimate interrogation technique (i.e-an idiot, ) would think it isn't. It's dowsing someone's head in water to simulate the sensation of drowning. Of course it's torture. Jesus!
Anyway, what you talking about. It has this sentence in the second paragraph, 'U.S. government officials have at various times said they do not believe waterboarding to be a form of torture.'
Message edited by author 2010-07-30 10:27:28. |
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07/30/2010 10:27:28 AM · #21 |
Sounds like "use a lot of negative space" to me. Which is wrong. |
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07/30/2010 10:27:29 AM · #22 |
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Message edited by author 2010-07-30 10:29:08. |
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07/30/2010 10:28:58 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
Originally posted by klkitchens:
For example: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterboarding
They outright call it torture. Not "classified by some as a form of torture". Opinion is very clearly divided on this issue. |
That's because it's bloody obvious it is torture. Only an idiot, or someone who advocates it's use as a legitimate interrogation technique (i.e-an idiot, ) would think it isn't. It's dowsing someone's head in water to simulate the sensation of drowning. Of course it's torture. Jesus!
Anyway, what you talking about. It has this sentence in the second paragraph, 'U.S. government officials have at various times said they do not believe waterboarding to be a form of torture.' |
In your opinion.
However, please don't derail the thread. He asked for an example where the wikipedia article was inaccurate. This clearly was one.
And I believe it's a violation of the site TOS to call another member an idiot. So I suggest you edit that.
And what I'm talking about is not reflected in that sentence -- that's an attempt to spin the US Government as ignorant instead of reflecting the truth that in many minds, it's not torture. |
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07/30/2010 10:31:43 AM · #24 |
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07/30/2010 10:32:50 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by klkitchens:
However, please don't derail the thread. He asked for an example where the wikipedia article was inaccurate. This clearly was one. |
But Wikipedia was accurate in this case. It is a form of of torture and it mentions that some people that use it dispute that. Perfectly accurate.
Originally posted by klkitchens:
And I believe it's a violation of the site TOS to call another member an idiot. So I suggest you edit that. |
So you're happy to advocate simulated drowning in another human being but you start crying if you think someone called you an idiot? Jesus, man! Grow some balls why dontcha! |
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