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07/17/2010 01:22:07 PM · #1
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Ursula won a blue with this image of the famous TA Moulton Barn near Jackson, Wyoming.

Here is a view of that same barn I captured earlier this month:

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HDR at F/8 73.0mm iso400 - Canon EF 24-105mm F/4L USM - 7/09/2010

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07/17/2010 02:12:46 PM · #2
That's very good! I particularly like the mountains in yours, their color, and how they play a bigger role in the photo. However, Ursula's shot is sharper, and has more texture to it and a different mood. I prefer hers, though I do love your use of the mountains in the background.
07/17/2010 03:24:17 PM · #3
Leave it to 21_F.gif Ursula to find the best locations!

Beautiful work to both 21_F.gif Ursula and Steve! ;-)

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07/17/2010 03:37:45 PM · #4
Originally posted by Artifacts:

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Ursula won a blue with this image of the famous TA Moulton Barn near Jackson, Wyoming.

Here is a view of that same barn I captured earlier this month:

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HDR at F/8 73.0mm iso400 - Canon EF 24-105mm F/4L USM - 7/09/2010


21.gif Signal2noise was there too

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07/17/2010 05:33:20 PM · #5
I quite like how you got the buffalo to pace themselves so nicely across the frame!
07/17/2010 05:51:30 PM · #6
Nice! I love that place, love the colours in your version, Steve, and the buffalo :)
07/17/2010 06:28:08 PM · #7
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Another take on the same scene - it scored pretty well.
07/17/2010 06:57:25 PM · #8
Kinda interesting about these images is how close together we were in both place and relative time of day that Ursula and I chose to compose our respective pictures. They are remarkably similar.

Given that the scale of our pictures are literally the same I'd guess Ursula took hers not more than a few feet to the right from where I took mine and both were not long after sunrise. Since Ursula's was taken in early Spring when the sun rises further south it provides more illumination on the back side of the roof.

The similarities are not coincidence, though, it is photographic instinct coupled with a natural place right next to Mormon Row Road for taking photographs... to a photographer both that position and sunrise are the most logical choices from which to take a picture of that particular barn.

Signal2noise's great picture was taken probably 30-40 feet further to the right of us with a more frontal view and later in the day so the shadows are in a completely different direction. But since his was taken near the winter solstice the sun was still very low in the sky and shadows are great. In his the left side of the barn is totally illuminated whereas ours are not. Makes me want to go back in winter to capture a similar image.

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07/17/2010 07:10:42 PM · #9
Originally posted by rjkstesch:

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Another take on the same scene - it scored pretty well.

Look closely and you will see we took our pictures from almost literally the same direction and probably near the same spot. I was probably a few inches to the right of you. I think I set my tripod just north of and right next to the small wooden bridge. I wanted to set in on the bridge but there was to much vibration.

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07/17/2010 07:20:28 PM · #10
That is the most photographed barn in the world. The morning I was there, another 3 photogs. were also there making pictures, and a bit further down the road, a prof. photographer was making pictures of the other buildings that are a little bit to the north of this one. And it was not tourist season, and it was very early in the morning, and cold. I can hardly imagine what it must be like during tourist season! If it's anything close to the Yellowstone/Teton landmarks, then it's going to be crowded.
07/17/2010 10:02:52 PM · #11
all of them are beautiful!
07/17/2010 11:44:44 PM · #12
Originally posted by JustCaree:

all of them are beautiful!


you can say that again...where exactly is this again....
07/18/2010 12:43:29 AM · #13
Originally posted by Ja-9:

Originally posted by JustCaree:

all of them are beautiful!


you can say that again...where exactly is this again....


Grand Tetons National Park, near Jackson Hole, Wyoming...

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07/18/2010 11:39:19 AM · #14
The Mormon barns are not quite inside Grand Teton NP... they are just to the south closer to Jackson.

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CORRECTION: The barns ARE located in the Park... I was fooled because it is before you get to the entrance where you pay. :)


Ursula's right that the Mormon barns are probably the most photographed barns in the world. I went by twice on my last trip. I'd guess 100+ photographers go there daily pretty much year round during good weather. One of the mornings I was there a photography tour group headed by a pro came in before sunrise. They setup right next to me where I was photographing the John Moulton Barn.

The company is called "photo safari" and they came in a brand spanking new, shiny big bus. They had the company name written all over everything - shirts, hats and on the bus. I thought about telling the guy that I had a copyright on the name "photo safari" because that is what I call my outings. But since I don't have any real claim to the name thought better of it, especially since in chatting about the technicals of photography I think I stole some of his thunder and wasn't on his favorites list. They all used linear polarizers and the guy sorta stared down his nose at me with my circular. But then, I was the only one taking +2,0,-2 HDR captures. LOL!!!

The guy did teach me that "alpenglow" is the term used to describe pre-sunrise when the sun is shining on mountain tops but no where else. I like that word!

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07/18/2010 01:19:38 PM · #15
Originally posted by Artifacts:

... The guy did teach me that "alpenglow" is the term used to describe pre-sunrise when the sun is shining on mountain tops but no where else. I like that word!


Alpenglow was a term most widely used, and maybe coined by the adventure photography master, Galen Rowell. It also applies to sunset sun on mountaintops as well as sunrise. I also love that word and have used it for about 10-12 years now. I might be the only photographer that has been to the Tetons but didn't find the Mormon barns! (I guess I didn't look very hard)
07/18/2010 02:00:25 PM · #16
Originally posted by Ristyz:

... I might be the only photographer that has been to the Tetons but didn't find the Mormon barns! (I guess I didn't look very hard)

Plug these coordinates into Google Earth and it will take you right to the John Moulton Barn. The others are nearby and you will see pictures posted on Google Earth.

43°39'59.36"N,110°39'53.93"W

They located only about a mile or so off Hwy 26 which is the main road from Jackson to Yellowstone on Antelope Flat Road. There is a sign showing Antelope Flat Road off the main highway but there isn't one saying the Mormon barns are located down it.
07/18/2010 03:26:05 PM · #17
Originally posted by Ristyz:

Originally posted by Artifacts:

... The guy did teach me that "alpenglow" is the term used to describe pre-sunrise when the sun is shining on mountain tops but no where else. I like that word!


Alpenglow was a term most widely used, and maybe coined by the adventure photography master, Galen Rowell. It also applies to sunset sun on mountaintops as well as sunrise.


I learned the term "alpenglow" in the late 50's when we LIVED by the Alps... It's a translation into English of the original German, and in English it goes back to the late 19th century according to Merriam Webster:

Main Entry: al·pen·glow
Function: noun
Etymology: part translation of German Alpenglühen, from Alpen (Alps) + Glühen (glow)
Date: 1871

: a reddish glow seen near sunset or sunrise on the summits of mountains
07/18/2010 03:38:46 PM · #18
Originally posted by Ristyz:

I might be the only photographer that has been to the Tetons but didn't find the Mormon barns!

Nope -- and I've got the snapshots from 1982 to prove it! I don't think we knew about the barns, nor were we on a photo expedition ... we were looking for a place to sleep.

These were taken from near a campground in the elk preserve somewhere to the east of Jackson Hole. My friend Tom, whose band used to play at a bar in Jackson Hole, gave me directions over the phone to this place ... the night before I was leaving for a cross-country trip, helping a friend and her 5 year old son move from Berkeley to Boston to attend university ... somehow we found the campground.

Scanned from 35mm negatives taken with a P&S camera.
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07/18/2010 05:53:01 PM · #19
I found them when I was there alsoCopyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_399576.jpg

can't wait to go back either. =)
07/19/2010 12:16:48 PM · #20
The subject for Ursula's great photo was "abandoned buildings". I think that her photo's effect achieved this.
07/19/2010 01:03:20 PM · #21
Thanks, Bear, A most enlightening history lesson.

Originally posted by Bear_Music:



I learned the term "alpenglow" in the late 50's when we LIVED by the Alps... It's a translation into English of the original German, and in English it goes back to the late 19th century according to Merriam Webster:

Main Entry: al·pen·glow
Function: noun
Etymology: part translation of German Alpenglühen, from Alpen (Alps) + Glühen (glow)
Date: 1871

: a reddish glow seen near sunset or sunrise on the summits of mountains
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