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Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Canon

07/08/2002 10:52:19 AM · #2

Gordon,

Have to agree on both points.

First, nice shot John.

Second, there were a couple of shots that allowed you to see behind the glass a little easier with the thumbnail than with the full sized pic.

magnetic9999

Canon EOS-20D

07/08/2002 11:16:38 AM · #3

yes. hats off to john : )

oh wait, im not wearing a hat. .

07/08/2002 11:27:00 AM · #4

Originally posted by GordonMcGregor:
A great shot from John - excellent clarity, well executed, good choice for 4th July week. Well done!

and a question on my entry - I think the thumbnail looks better than the ''full size'' version - any thoughts ?

Gordon,

Thanks to you and everyon for the compliment... I don''t have any problem with the thumbnail or the full sized version of your photo.. I liked it either way. In my voting and comments, the thumbnail is a non-issue. They are only for reference and i rarely mention the thumbnail in the comments...

What do you think looks better about the thumbnail?

* This message has been edited by the author on 7/8/2002 11:27:31 AM.

Zeissman

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

07/08/2002 11:35:17 AM · #5

I think that with a shot of that nature, the thumbnail gives the appearance of the photo being clearer than it is. Instead of seeing moer in the large image, the distortion is more noticeable.

This shot was one of my favorites, but I know others have had that affect on me. Especially if the contrast or sharpness in not what it should be.

ron

Olympus D-510 Zoom

07/08/2002 11:47:50 AM · #6

Is that a bad thing?
And is there a way around it?
Sometimes, I think I have taken a good picture looking at the camera back thumbnail and then when I look at it large, I see the person's eyes are closed or something's there that I didn't see before.

I could see Squint! better little, but it was really cool big. It was just more abstract big.

Zeissman

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

07/08/2002 12:29:02 PM · #7

It was not bad to me, but some do not like abstracts of people. And I am sure most of use wanted to see more of the figure.

But as is, this was a great photo.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

07/08/2002 12:43:47 PM · #8

Originally posted by GordonMcGregor:
and a question on my entry - I think the thumbnail looks better than the 'full size' version - any thoughts ?

I think this is true of several entries from last week, and of mine this week. I think it's because when we go to the larger image, we don't usually move back from the monitor. In a gallery, you need to stand back and view some pictures from where it's all within your central field of vision, others you want to get up close and see the detail. I think the "abstracts" require the "overview" so we can see (create) patterns; seen up close, they're often just blobs of color.

I think the presence of these patterns (deliberate or natural) are a major criteria we use for differentiating "art" from "pretty."

I think I actually went back and raised a couple of scores based on viewing the thumbnails of the voting summary page. I also review the thumbnails on the submissions page before I start going through and voting.

--Paul

timj351

07/08/2002 12:55:52 PM · #9

Yes, congratulations to John, Steven, and Kimberly. Those were excellent photos and well deserved wins.

Tim J

Gordon

RIM BlackBerry Curve

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM

07/08/2002 01:17:36 PM · #10

Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by GordonMcGregor:
[i]and a question on my entry - I think the thumbnail looks better than the 'full size' version - any thoughts ?

I think this is true of several entries from last week, and of mine this week. I think it's because when we go to the larger image, we don't usually move back from the monitor. In a gallery, you need to stand back and view some pictures from where it's all within your central field of vision, others you want to get up close and see the detail. I think the "abstracts" require the "overview" so we can see (create) patterns; seen up close, they're often just blobs of color.
--Paul[/i]

I certainly think I like the thumbnail because it is more apparent what the subject is. You make a good point about the viewing distance though - most people looking at things on a monitor are probably closer than is 'normal' for looking at photographs/ art in general.

Ronin

Sony DSC-S85

07/08/2002 01:39:54 PM · #11

That was the problem with my photo,.. the thumbnail show exactly what the subject is,. but once you view the full sized image, you really ahve to site back 2 or 3 feet to view it properly... well enough of that,.. Great shots from everyone this round, congrats to the winners.. much deserved.

Shiiizzzam

07/08/2002 01:57:57 PM · #12

Congrats on 3 well deserved wins !

John, that is one more awesome photo and I can't tell you how happy I am to see that you won.

07/08/2002 08:54:46 PM · #13

Originally posted by Shiiizzzam:
Congrats on 3 well deserved wins !

John, that is one more awesome photo and I can't tell you how happy I am to see that you won.

Shi,

Thanks for the compliment :) btw- congrats to YOU on your win at bestfoto for photo of the month in the animal category :) U ROCK :)

Shiiizzzam

07/08/2002 08:57:19 PM · #14

Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by Shiiizzzam:
[i]Congrats on 3 well deserved wins !

John, that is one more awesome photo and I can't tell you how happy I am to see that you won.

Shi,

Thanks for the compliment :) btw- congrats to YOU on your win at bestfoto for photo of the month in the animal category :) U ROCK :)
[/i]

Thank you John :) I'm still surprised by that. Congrats to you there on your best of the month for b/w category !!! U ROCK yourself ya know:)

Zeissman

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

07/08/2002 09:41:27 PM · #15

You are right ezns,

Yours was on I thought was great as a thumbnail, but not enough detail larger. This one really did leave me wanting just a little more definiton.

Originally posted by ezns:
That was the problem with my photo,.. the thumbnail show exactly what the subject is,. but once you view the full sized image, you really ahve to site back 2 or 3 feet to view it properly... well enough of that,.. Great shots from everyone this round, congrats to the winners.. much deserved.

Dangerous_blues

HP PhotoSmart C618

07/08/2002 10:03:56 PM · #16

Congrats to the winners of last weeks contest. I feel like a heel for not even having a chance to vote let alone participate the last few weeks.

Maybe this week........sigh

07/08/2002 10:35:53 PM · #17

I didn't get a chance to vote on this one and I do like the photo that won, BUT... I couldn't help feeling like I had seen it before.

I finally realized I had seen it in some post-Sept 11th photo of the year voting contest and had liked it enough that I downloaded a copy. It has the original photographer's name on it - Chris Lansberger.

John's photo is beautiful and it may just be a tribute to this photo or another one, but the similarity is obvious and I think some credit should be given to the original photographer. I don't know what/if the copyright rules are on this site and I'm no expert so maybe it's no big deal.

Check it out for yourself...

07/08/2002 10:44:23 PM · #18

I'm realizing I sound a little critical in my above post. I'm sorry - I didn't mean to. John's photo is gorgeous, and heaven knows we wouldn't be at this if it was a crime to have the same idea someone else has had before...

I checked out all the photos and kudos to all, especially John.

Amanda

07/08/2002 11:00:52 PM · #19

my inspiration will be availabe when the 'how'd they do that' article becomes available on this site

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

07/08/2002 11:07:37 PM · #20

I will go ahead and post my sources of inspiration for this photo here. I had not seen the Popular Photography issue photo before I did this one and I wish i had or i would have posted my second photo instead.

Inspiration 1
[url=//www.photosig.com/viewphoto.php?id=19407 ]Inspiration 2[/url]
Inspiration 3

What I Should Have Used

As for giving credit, that is BS. I would definitely give credit if I was attempting to directly duplicate a photograph. How many people do you see giving credit to the first person who photographed the Eiffel Tower or the White House? :)

* This message has been edited by the author on 7/9/2002 6:40:36 AM.

hokie

Nikon D2X

07/08/2002 11:24:27 PM · #21

Everybody puts their own twist on a photo.

I have seen at leat a dozen water drop reflection type of photos...each with their own twist.

I liked Johns straight edged diagonal version a lot...My other favorite versions of similar stuff....

flowers

or this

flag drop

or my favorite

flag fence

* This message has been edited by the author on 7/8/2002 11:29:47 PM.

Shiiizzzam

07/08/2002 11:36:13 PM · #22

Give credit??? That's crazy. How many of us have done water drops that's been done a million times....or flower photos or macro shots ?
Things are getting pretty tense around here lately. ~shaking head~

John, you did a awesome photo. I am sick of seeing it put down or questioned. Keep doing what you do best:) You've taught me so much and as your friend this BS hurts me. IF anyone deserves credit for this photo, it's you. The inspiration links suck compared to yours. That's fact.

07/08/2002 11:48:51 PM · #23

You guys are right! My comment about giving credit to some other random photographer who happened to create a similar photo at another time is completely unfair to John and his excellent photo and every other photographer who's strived to create a great photo. Every photo is a new twist on something.

My apologies to you, John - I'd remove my post, but it's been interesting to see the flare up... I feel like I deserve this chastising, so I'll keep my comment up.

07/08/2002 11:56:25 PM · #24

Originally posted by shedonist:
You guys are right! My comment about giving credit to some other random photographer who happened to create a similar photo at another time is [i]completely unfair to John and his excellent photo and every other photographer who's strived to create a great photo. Every photo is a new twist on something.

My apologies to you, John - I'd remove my post, but it's been interesting to see the flare up... I feel like I deserve this chastising, so I'll keep my comment up.[/i]

I'm not complaining about your comment... I got a LOT of comments like that and I'm used to it :)