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07/14/2010 11:03:50 PM · #26 |
I would try with 12GB first. You can always upgrade later.
Around here, 4GB RAM is quite a lot more expensive than 2GB, much more than double.
If you aren't worried about the price, get 12GB in 3 sticks of 4GB. Don't get slow RAM. The slower stuff might actually run slower than it says. Don't pay too much for super high clocked RAM though since it's usually just OC.
Pretty much any chip can be overclocked. The 920 is a VERY popular chip for OC.
For your uses, you will need to change the cooling anyhow. The stock cooler simply won't cut it for a system that has heavy demands. Your temps will go 70-80 deg's frequently. While that is within 'design specs', that's not very good for longevity.
Air cooling is simple and cheap. The big air coolers can do a very decent job.
Honestly, I think you will be glad of the 6 cores. You may just be disappointed when the 6 core processors start coming out at less than half the price a few months down the road. If you don't think it will bother you, then go for it. |
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07/15/2010 12:37:59 AM · #27 |
Actually, I've had another motherboard thought. I was over on Newegg, just for fun to see what the components cost there, and they had a kit that was interesting. Most interesting part is that the GIGABYTE X58 motherboard has SATA III and USB 3.0 built in. The Asus board I picked does too, but there are only two SATA 6.0 ports on the board.
Actually, I doubt I would build, but the kit is well priced too FYI, at around $1000. (For fun I built up my system on this, and with 18GB RAM and a bigger SSD than I had picked, but no video card, I was at $2K.)
Intel Core i7-930 Bloomfield 2.8GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601930
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP6GX3M3A1600C7
GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active ...
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
I'll have to look at the specs of the Gigabyte board some more. I've had ASUS boards before, and I know they're a good company. But it's a little bit of a limitation to only have two SATA III and two USB 3.0 ports. (They don't list the Gigabyte board though on PCsForEveryone site, where I was doing the configs.)
Message edited by author 2010-07-15 00:38:45.
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07/15/2010 07:25:03 AM · #28 |
I would select a 650 watt power supply to be on the safe side. 500 is pretty minimal. |
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07/16/2010 06:12:42 AM · #29 |
Re: RAID, with RAID 1+0 you 'loose' half of the disks. So 4 1tb disks will give you 2tb to play with. RAID 5, slower, but just as safe, will loose the size of one disk. With 4 1tb disks you'll have 3tb space. |
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07/16/2010 07:27:52 AM · #30 |
oops
Message edited by author 2010-07-16 16:45:58. |
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07/16/2010 07:50:17 AM · #31 |
Raid 0: Stripe. Write data to alternating disks. You keep the combined size, but if one disk fails, you loose all data on all disks.
Raid 1: Mirror. Write same data to all disks. You have the size of one disk. You can loose all but one disk and still have your data.
Raid 5: Stripe with parity. Write data to alternating disk, and error correcting data to one. You loose the size of one disk, and one disk can fail without loosing data.
Raid 10: Mirrored stripe. First create a striped set, then mirror that set using the same number of disks that is in the stripe. You have half of the combined size available. One disk can fail without loosing data.
Here's a better overview with pictures: //www.acnc.com/04_00.html :)
Message edited by author 2010-07-16 07:54:28. |
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07/16/2010 04:45:39 PM · #32 |
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07/16/2010 04:45:49 PM · #33 |
Message edited by author 2010-07-16 16:46:05. |
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07/22/2010 12:47:47 PM · #34 |
Still shopping around...looking even more closely at building, and individual components, but I did notice this (and the new I7 970 processor).
Very nice minitower, with front access to drive bays.
As configured: $2100
Weekly Gamer Special
Case ( NZXT Guardian 921 Gaming Case - Black )
Case Lighting ( None )
Processor ( Intel® Core™ i7 970 Processor (6x 3.20GHz/12MB L3 Cache) )
iBUYPOWER PowerDrive ( PowerDrive Level 1 - Up to 10% Overclocking )
Processor Cooling ( [Free Upgrade] Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ 120mm Radiator [SOCKET-1366] )
Memory ( 12 GB [2 GB X6] DDR3-1333 - Corsair Value or Major Brand )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 – 1GB - Single Card )
Video Card Brand ( === High Performance === EVGA Brand Video Card Powered by NVIDIA )
Motherboard ( [SLI] ASUS P6X58D-E )
Power Supply ( 650 Watt -- Casegears ECO-Element 80 Plus Certificated High Efficiency Power Supply - SLI Ready )
Primary Hard Drive ( 128 GB Kingston SSDNow V Series MLC SSD - Single Drive )
Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer - Black )
Meter Display ( NZXT Sentry 2 Touch Screen Fan Controller & Temperature Display )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Operating System ( None- Pre-formatted Hard Drive Only )
Warranty ( Standard Warranty Service - Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
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07/23/2010 02:10:48 AM · #35 |
I would say that looks flipping awesome.
Good price, not amazing, but quite respectable.
It seems to have everything you could ask for. Decent, but not overdone video card, SSD, 650W power supply, liquid cooling with temp display on board... 6 CPU's... Flash card reader on board. Good mobo, no case lighting...
Excellent!
Maybe go to 2-3 of your local shops to see if you can get comparable pricing.
When I did my system, I ended up going with a shop that's about 200 feet from my house instead of all the way in town. I bought some components cheap when it made a difference and let him charge me what he wanted for the rest.
In the end, the whole build cost me an extra $35 US over getting it done in town, but I didn't have to drive an hour on my scooter with this beast. Also, I have taken the system in to the shop 3 times to have a few things done that I didn't feel like/have time to do myself, so it was worth it in the end for me.
Grab yourself a couple of 2TB drives and set up your redundancy systems and I'd say you have a winner.
Message edited by author 2010-07-23 02:12:03. |
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