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06/21/2010 12:34:44 AM · #1
Sounds fun to me..

Self-Portrait Without People I
06/21/2010 12:42:04 AM · #2
The perfect challenge for this infamous self-portrait of mine :-)



If you want to see how much (or how little) DPC has changed in the last 5 1/2 years, read the photographer's comments, then the comments by others... There was a long forum thread too, but I lost track of that. It was all very fascinating.

I was a lot more earnest then, it was before I'd learned better :-)

R.
06/21/2010 01:04:12 AM · #3


One of the funniest here in DPC.
06/21/2010 02:35:14 PM · #4
Signature Style, similar, obviously not the same

Message edited by author 2010-06-21 14:36:03.
06/21/2010 03:14:59 PM · #5
You may find some inspiration in these previous challenges:

Adulthood Without Adults
Childhood Without Children
Childhood Without Children II
Team Sports Without Players
Team Sports Without Players II
Abstract Emotion

Message edited by author 2010-06-21 15:16:39.
06/21/2010 07:31:21 PM · #6
It is interesting that the challenge TITLE says "Without People", but the challenge DESCRIPTION says "without including any part of yourself in the image"...

IN other words, based on the desciption, a photo of my children might be an acceptable self portrait of me, arguably, but based on the title that's DNMC...

R.
06/21/2010 09:29:13 PM · #7
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

It is interesting that the challenge TITLE says "Without People", but the challenge DESCRIPTION says "without including any part of yourself in the image"...

IN other words, based on the desciption, a photo of my children might be an acceptable self portrait of me, arguably, but based on the title that's DNMC...

R.


Nice Observation! You have to consider the overall concept of the challenge in order to form the vision for what might be acceptable. It is not merely the title nor just the description but all aspects of the challenge verbage need to be considered. I consider it an exercise in communication that is good for anyone looking to please a client as a photographer. What does the client want? What exactly are they looking for?
06/21/2010 10:34:49 PM · #8
Originally posted by EL-ROI:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

It is interesting that the challenge TITLE says "Without People", but the challenge DESCRIPTION says "without including any part of yourself in the image"...

IN other words, based on the desciption, a photo of my children might be an acceptable self portrait of me, arguably, but based on the title that's DNMC...

R.


Nice Observation! You have to consider the overall concept of the challenge in order to form the vision for what might be acceptable. It is not merely the title nor just the description but all aspects of the challenge verbage need to be considered. I consider it an exercise in communication that is good for anyone looking to please a client as a photographer. What does the client want? What exactly are they looking for?


The trouble with that, and it's a fascinating conundrum, is that the people WRITING the challenges aren't the "client"; the voters, collectively, are the client for all practical purposes. So any time a challenge is not crystal clear, we have to erase from our minds any thought of what the CREATOR of the challenge had in mind, and instead try to divine what sort of clarity the voters will collectively distill from the murky waters of the unclear title/description.

DPC: Digital Psychological Challenge :-)

R.
06/22/2010 09:40:47 PM · #9
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by EL-ROI:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

It is interesting that the challenge TITLE says "Without People", but the challenge DESCRIPTION says "without including any part of yourself in the image"...

IN other words, based on the desciption, a photo of my children might be an acceptable self portrait of me, arguably, but based on the title that's DNMC...

R.


Nice Observation! You have to consider the overall concept of the challenge in order to form the vision for what might be acceptable. It is not merely the title nor just the description but all aspects of the challenge verbage need to be considered. I consider it an exercise in communication that is good for anyone looking to please a client as a photographer. What does the client want? What exactly are they looking for?


The trouble with that, and it's a fascinating conundrum, is that the people WRITING the challenges aren't the "client"; the voters, collectively, are the client for all practical purposes. So any time a challenge is not crystal clear, we have to erase from our minds any thought of what the CREATOR of the challenge had in mind, and instead try to divine what sort of clarity the voters will collectively distill from the murky waters of the unclear title/description.

DPC: Digital Psychological Challenge :-)

R.


Well, if you put it in terms of pleasing the collective... then yes, it is trouble, nay, impossible given the high voting range on images!

Message edited by author 2010-06-22 21:42:14.
06/22/2010 09:48:02 PM · #10
what about toes... can we take pictures of toes LOL
06/23/2010 05:02:25 AM · #11
is your shadow apart of yourself?
06/23/2010 07:15:56 AM · #12
Originally posted by SoulJance:

is your shadow apart of yourself?


Guess not :-)
06/26/2010 11:14:43 AM · #13
This challenge is going to be quite the conundrum to both shoot as well as vote on.

Robert, your example of your own shot above in this thread is a really great one because I think that when people think along those types of lines, there will be those who will think of it as a "shoehorn" and then, there will be those who will think of it as "brilliant". In a lot of aspects, DPC has evolved somewhat in thinking outside of the "literal box" but, on the other hand...it hasn't. Then, again, I've seen an evolution towards having photos that really don't fit the challenge well criteria wise but, do well because it is a general dpc crowd pleaser.

Bottom line...who really knows what will fly and what won't??

Maybe, a great brightly colored HDR shot of water and sky, entitled "My Serene Essence" would do the trick?! LOL ;) (Hey, they grab the front pages a lot! I've gotta move some place pretty. ;) )

ETA: I think I'm going to toss out a set of shots that I took for this challenge and just go with what I like, forgetting about scores completely.

Message edited by author 2010-06-26 11:16:49.
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