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09/19/2008 11:49:21 AM · #1 |
Truly, Minimal edit is going to be the most "educational" in regard to Photography and using the camera (the latest trend, using RAW, actually allows for a handicap with things like white balance and even exposure to some degree - that's why I use it ;).
Originally posted by bassbone:
I believe the idea of this challenge is to deliver a shot that is outstanding without any adjustments. Sensor dust or unfortunate lens flare or underexposure etc. can be a result of the minimal edit set, but the concept that I have taken with voting is that the image needs to stand by itself without excuses. If it has obvious flaws, I am going to vote accordingly. |
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09/19/2008 11:40:40 AM · #2 |
| Aargh. Just reread challenge description. Definitely lacking in "interesting effects" contributing to the "impact" of my photo. I suspect it is easier for a commenter to say it's not a long enough exposure than for him/ her to say the former - not out of laziness but to avoid hurt feelings... If I had a little more self-respect I might withdraw my image. |
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09/19/2008 11:31:43 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by Brat:
Originally posted by Melethia:
Nice comment from you, Peter, thanks! Score is dropping like a rock... Soon it'll catch up with my other one (Safety), which stands at the expected 5.1. All is good, though. Accomplished what I set out to, more or less, so in my own feeble mind I met the challenge presented to me. Had a good time shooting stuff for this challenge, too!
Edit to add that I really do like minimal editing challenges. It forces us to see the whole picture and what we wish to tell, and try to capture it all "as is". 'Tis a good exercise! |
Oh! I so agree, but why does it begin with cleaning, ......first the shutter, ........then the lense! Was I the only person that burnt my first round of images, because you couldn't actually see them, because of the filth and rats living in my camera....well possibly a slight, ...but only slight exaggeration there! ...about the burning :)!! |
A shot onto white paper with the lens you are going to use at small aperture is all you need to do in order to determine if you have the grungy fungies on your sensor...That way you don't end up blowing a whole shooting session before you get out there...
"proper prior planning prevents ___-poor performance..." |
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09/19/2008 11:28:28 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Nice comment from you, Peter, thanks! Score is dropping like a rock... Soon it'll catch up with my other one (Safety), which stands at the expected 5.1. All is good, though. Accomplished what I set out to, more or less, so in my own feeble mind I met the challenge presented to me. Had a good time shooting stuff for this challenge, too!
Edit to add that I really do like minimal editing challenges. It forces us to see the whole picture and what we wish to tell, and try to capture it all "as is". 'Tis a good exercise! |
Oh! I so agree, but why does it begin with cleaning, ......first the shutter, ........then the lense! Was I the only person that burnt my first round of images, because you couldn't actually see them, because of the filth and rats living in my camera....well possibly a slight, ...but only slight exaggeration there! ...about the burning :)!! |
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09/19/2008 11:16:19 AM · #5 |
Nice comment from you, Peter, thanks! Score is dropping like a rock... Soon it'll catch up with my other one (Safety), which stands at the expected 5.1. All is good, though. Accomplished what I set out to, more or less, so in my own feeble mind I met the challenge presented to me. Had a good time shooting stuff for this challenge, too!
Edit to add that I really do like minimal editing challenges. It forces us to see the whole picture and what we wish to tell, and try to capture it all "as is". 'Tis a good exercise!
Message edited by author 2008-09-19 11:17:42. |
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09/19/2008 11:13:59 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by halopes:
Originally posted by violinist123:
I think if you couldn't be bothered to clean your sensor, it should have been indicator #1 that you should not have bothered entering. |
I understand what you are saying, but I think you are being a bit radical. I have visible sensor dust in my pic as well. As a newbie who bougth the camera 6 months ago, I didn't have the guts to clean my sensor yet. And I think my photo can exist beyond the visible dust. |
I believe the idea of this challenge is to deliver a shot that is outstanding without any adjustments. Sensor dust or unfortunate lens flare or underexposure etc. can be a result of the minimal edit set, but the concept that I have taken with voting is that the image needs to stand by itself without excuses. If it has obvious flaws, I am going to vote accordingly. |
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09/19/2008 11:13:44 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by raish:
I've decided that a long exposure has to be one full second or more, so I'm giving 1's and 2's to everything that doesn't look that way. |
Rats. And I didn't strip the exif.... :-) |
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09/19/2008 11:08:51 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Brat:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
IF you can take the very same shot with a short exposure, I\'m afraid I voted you down. There were at least a handful that fell victim to this. |
I didn't realise that this was one of the criteria for a long exposure shot. I admire your work enormously and as a learner I actually looked at some of your works for inspiration, for this challenge....cough!...cough!!!.... |
Well, I'm looking for "impact" like the challenge asks. Again, I only gave out 3 scores of 1 or 2. I'll go back and make sure that none of them are impacted by an especially deep DOF that wouldn't have been possible with a shorter exposure and wider aperture.
Glad to hear the 5D is ok! ;) |
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09/19/2008 11:08:20 AM · #9 |
| Oh great. Another presumption of exposure.... |
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09/19/2008 11:02:00 AM · #10 |
| I've decided that a long exposure has to be one full second or more, so I'm giving 1's and 2's to everything that doesn't look that way. |
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09/19/2008 10:52:00 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by violinist123:
I think if you couldn't be bothered to clean your sensor, it should have been indicator #1 that you should not have bothered entering. |
I understand what you are saying, but I think you are being a bit radical. I have visible sensor dust in my pic as well. As a newbie who bougth the camera 6 months ago, I didn't have the guts to clean my sensor yet. And I think my photo can exist beyond the visible dust. |
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09/19/2008 10:28:25 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
IF you can take the very same shot with a short exposure, I\'m afraid I voted you down. There were at least a handful that fell victim to this. |
I didn't realise that this was one of the criteria for a long exposure shot. I admire your work enormously and as a learner I actually looked at some of your works for inspiration, for this challenge....cough!...cough!!!....
It\'s probably a bit late to suggest that you go back and comment on the specific ones that didn't meet your criteria, 'cause then we'd know who got the one's and two's, and I'm probably one of them! :D
Oh well! .... at this stage the closest I\'ve come to emulating your photography in any way shape or form, ....is brushing the 5D within 6 inches of water 2 days ago! ....on an afternoon trek with three other DPC'ers, and 'Bummer' was already up on the challenge list.
I landed on my knees right beside the stream......(I suppose that\'s what you get for watching where the frolicking dragonflies are landing, instead of where you are going)...
I did the big save!!! ....and nobody got the shot....
There is a sweet moment in every day...that was mine! LOLOLOLOL!!!
Thanks for voting! .......and contributing enormously to this site. ...now ....if your comments flowed as freely as your ability to submerge 5D's, we would all have enormous overheads with our insurance...even in OZ! ...Thank goodness some of us can hold them above the waterline!! ...even if it is only for a moment a day! :D)))))
Cheers
Barb
PS: ....and I am just delighted that you would be willing to provide a personal critique of my Long Exposure Image at the end of voting!!...(...can't stop laughing!!) :D)))))))))) ... it may be just the wine …or the fact that  BAMartin has become a Grandmother! :D Wahhhoooo!
ETA: BAMartin link
Message edited by author 2008-09-19 10:31:12. |
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09/19/2008 08:28:34 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by zackdezon:
Originally posted by violinist123:
I think if you couldn't be bothered to clean your sensor, it should have been indicator #1 that you should not have bothered entering. |
Think you're referring to my entry...
That's a little harsh, I think. Sometimes sensor dust isn't so evident until it's too late. |
If it's evident to the viewer in 2 seconds, it's evident to the photographer in 2 seconds. Anyway, there was a lot more than one entry with the bunnies. Don't take it personally. |
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09/19/2008 01:39:04 AM · #14 |
| Ah, Dr. Achoo, you couldn't tell, could you, that with my camera a shorter exposure was not possible unless I cranked up the ISO and/or opened up the aperture, either or both of which would have resulted in a very inferior image? I think I would have preferred you to say rather that an image does not show what you had in mind by "long exposure." Subjectivity is not a bad thing. |
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09/19/2008 01:16:05 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by violinist123:
I think if you couldn't be bothered to clean your sensor, it should have been indicator #1 that you should not have bothered entering. |
Think you're referring to my entry...
That's a little harsh, I think. Sometimes sensor dust isn't so evident until it's too late.
Message edited by author 2008-09-19 01:19:33. |
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09/19/2008 12:38:49 AM · #16 |
| I think if you couldn't be bothered to clean your sensor, it should have been indicator #1 that you should not have bothered entering. |
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09/19/2008 12:38:42 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
IF you can take the very same shot with a short exposure, I'm afraid I voted you down. There were at least a handful that fell victim to this. |
I bet you did mine, even though it was a stop motion... oh well, I got goaded into entering and couldn't stand NOT doing it. |
If the stop motion led to an effect I could tell required a long exposure, you were ok. :) I only gave one 1 and three 2s. I gave 18 votes of 7 and above. |
Gee ta! I think you were one of my low voters....but if you look carefully, you can see that you cannot take some of those entries with a short exposure....!
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09/19/2008 12:36:47 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
IF you can take the very same shot with a short exposure, I'm afraid I voted you down. There were at least a handful that fell victim to this. |
I bet you did mine, even though it was a stop motion... oh well, I got goaded into entering and couldn't stand NOT doing it. |
If the stop motion led to an effect I could tell required a long exposure, you were ok. :) I only gave one 1 and three 2s. I gave 18 votes of 7 and above. |
Doubt mine warranted that. It took some effort, but in the end, it looks like a prop... :) |
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09/19/2008 12:32:38 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
IF you can take the very same shot with a short exposure, I'm afraid I voted you down. There were at least a handful that fell victim to this. |
I bet you did mine, even though it was a stop motion... oh well, I got goaded into entering and couldn't stand NOT doing it. |
If the stop motion led to an effect I could tell required a long exposure, you were ok. :) I only gave one 1 and three 2s. I gave 18 votes of 7 and above. |
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09/19/2008 12:30:46 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
IF you can take the very same shot with a short exposure, I'm afraid I voted you down. There were at least a handful that fell victim to this. |
I bet you did mine, even though it was a stop motion... oh well, I got goaded into entering and couldn't stand NOT doing it. |
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09/19/2008 12:29:04 AM · #21 |
| IF you can take the very same shot with a short exposure, I'm afraid I voted you down. There were at least a handful that fell victim to this. |
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09/19/2008 12:20:20 AM · #22 |
| some nice images in here. Not bad for minimal. |
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09/19/2008 12:02:15 AM · #23 |
Fine!
I entered. We'll see what happens. I may even get the brown! |
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09/19/2008 12:01:01 AM · #24 |
It's 5am here in Scotland, waiting up to check out my first votes!
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09/18/2008 11:59:47 PM · #25 |
| hahaha... I ALWAYS had the person in the lab make NO corrections there... you can check on the back of the pic if any corrections were made... i made them re-do many rolls of film because they corrected them... |
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