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08/30/2008 08:37:57 AM · #1 |
My score is dropping but the comments keep going up. To be honest I thought I'd be lucky to get a 5.5 on this image, so I'm pleased.
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08/30/2008 05:27:31 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by Dmosier21:
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Lots of interesting comments and debate about what the challenge is about, in the end I think the literal will win out, rather than a metaphor (or a shoehorn as one has called my photo). Guess we'll see on the 2nd. Bleh. |
I sympathise with all whose well-meant entries have flown by the auditing system of voters. Nevertheless, as I think I partly mumbled before, a metaphor comes in two parts, the vehicle and the tenor. (Actually this is just someone-or-other's thesis on it, but it works for me - can't remember who it was that coined the terms either).
In the metaphor of divergent roads, the physical roads (image thereof) is the vehicle for the tenor, which is divergent futures through choices made in life. It's not one of yer complex metaphors, which may be why everyone gets a craw full of that poem in school :)
If you make an image that is intended to illustrate the tenor of a metaphor, then you create a third part, outside of the simple metaphor mechanism. Like I said, I sympathise and I'm all for the use of images to illustrate ideas as well as things. If a lot of voters don't - er - get it, though, then you can sort of see where the problem might lie.
Take heart - you were right, anyway. |
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08/30/2008 12:01:16 AM · #3 |
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Oh well. you lose some, you win some (well, I hope someday anyways ;) ) |
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08/29/2008 07:51:45 PM · #4 |
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Lots of interesting comments and debate about what the challenge is about, in the end I think the literal will win out, rather than a metaphor (or a shoehorn as one has called my photo). Guess we'll see on the 2nd. Bleh. |
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08/29/2008 04:38:27 PM · #5 |
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Wow !!! Now 3 Comments :-)
1-Theme a couple of steps removed but pretty shot.
2-cute! good editing job
3-that's a stretch for the challenge. imo
Message edited by author 2008-08-29 16:47:45.
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08/29/2008 01:56:55 PM · #6 |
Apparently, metaphors are liked about as much as abstracts, but I expected such.
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08/29/2008 08:23:09 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by BrianR:
If it was required for this challenge to go out and photograph a road the challenge would have simply been called Roads as an extra meaning had been added in the description, as photographers in this art form we were asked to be creative in the challenge and include this meaning, and it was kept to basic editing.
But as I said this is my perspective and we are all entitled to an opinion. |
"...asked to be creative and include this meaning..." What the heck does that mean?
People sure are bent about this challenge. Read whatever you want into it, but don't try to force YOUR interpretation on everyone else. This challenge should be left to individual vision - nowhere does it say ANYTHING about a poet, nor does it specifically mention some lonely road.
The challenge is simply listed as follows.
Challenge Title (and) Description: The road less traveled.
I'm trying to keep an open mind to many interpretations as I vote on this challenge. Kind of tough to do (stay open-minded) if one reads all of the spewing that is going on here. Geeessshh! |
I must be living in a different world to a lot of other people, the Road Less traveled has a completely different meaning by the way I was brought up and to its meaning.
But as I said this is my perspective and we are all entitled to an opinion.
Unfortunately I will not be home at roll over, but will write my perspective of the wording of this challenge as soon as I am able in challenge results.
The Road Not Taken .. Robert Frost
Is not the same as the 'Road Less Traveled'
Message edited by author 2008-08-29 08:52:37.
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08/29/2008 07:58:30 AM · #8 |
Do you think many people were expecting to see pictures related to Robert Frost's poem? I knew about the poem but I didn't see the need to follow it. Just as I wouldn't expect many people to follow Alice Walker's theme in the challenge "The Color Purple"...just wondering.
...then again when I do a google images search of the road less traveled (//images.google.com/images?=en&q=the%20road%20less%20traveled) I guess I see what people might have expected ;)
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08/29/2008 06:34:06 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Brian - Why did you change the wording of my quote in your reply? Snipping is one thing - changing words is another. |
please tell what word I changed
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08/29/2008 05:52:20 AM · #10 |
Brian - Why did you change the wording of my quote in your reply? Snipping is one thing - changing words is another.
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08/29/2008 05:23:57 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by BrianR:
If it was required for this challenge to go out and photograph a road the challenge would have simply been called Roads as an extra meaning had been added in the description, as photographers in this art form we were asked to be creative in the challenge and include this meaning, and it was kept to basic editing.
But as I said this is my perspective and we are all entitled to an opinion. |
"ut as I said this is my perspective and we are all entitled to an opinion.
People sure are bent about this challenge. Read whatever you want into it, but don't try to force YOUR interpretation on everyone else. This challenge should be left to individual vision - nowhere does it say ANYTHING about a poet, nor does it specifically mention some lonely road.
The challenge is simply listed as follows.
Challenge Title (and) Description: The road less traveled.
I'm trying to keep an open mind to many interpretations as I vote on this challenge. Kind of tough to do (stay open-minded) if one reads all of the spewing that is going on here. Geeessshh! |
I must be living in a different world to a lot of other people, the Road Less traveled has a completely different meaning by the way I was brought up and to its meaning.
But as I said this is my perspective and we are all entitled to an opinion.
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08/28/2008 07:54:03 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Prash:
Nobody (or very few) like to comment, yet everybody wants comments. How is that possible? I made sure that I comment on at least 3 and below scores that I put. |
Yup. I feel more obligated to comment on the 4's and 5's. The really poor entries will probably get lots of feedback from others and the obviously great ones will always get wowed over. So I try to put most of my commenting efforts on the midrange.
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08/28/2008 06:59:25 PM · #13 |
By the way I just made a new favorite in this road challenge. It is so nice not to participate and just rate:-) My new fav from this challenge is about a road that is pretty unique is all I can say for now:-)
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08/28/2008 06:55:37 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Dmosier21:
This being my first time making an entry, I have to say that thus far I am discouraged. Not because of my score, but because of the score coupled with a lack of comments that address why.
My feeling is that people are not appreciating my creative interpretation - actually, I am sure of it based on the other poster's sentiments about this being "Literal DP Challenge."
Should I give up on metaphors? |
I did not participate in this challenge, but in another one (my first ever). I have similar feelings. But I guess people are too busy saving their own scores somehow, newbies will be left over to become like them after a few more such challenges. Nobody (or very few) like to comment, yet everybody wants comments. How is that possible? I made sure that I comment on at least 3 and below scores that I put.
I am also rating this challenge, although I didnt submit here.
Hopefully you got a good score from me. Good luck:-) |
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08/28/2008 06:31:45 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
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Nice score you have working there Karen. :-) |
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08/28/2008 06:31:24 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by BrianR:
If it was required for this challenge to go out and photograph a road the challenge would have simply been called Roads as an extra meaning had been added in the description, as photographers in this art form we were asked to be creative in the challenge and include this meaning, and it was kept to basic editing.
But as I said this is my perspective and we are all entitled to an opinion. |
"...asked to be creative and include this meaning..." What the heck does that mean?
People sure are bent about this challenge. Read whatever you want into it, but don't try to force YOUR interpretation on everyone else. This challenge should be left to individual vision - nowhere does it say ANYTHING about a poet, nor does it specifically mention some lonely road.
The challenge is simply listed as follows.
Challenge Title (and) Description: The road less traveled.
I'm trying to keep an open mind to many interpretations as I vote on this challenge. Kind of tough to do (stay open-minded) if one reads all of the spewing that is going on here. Geeessshh!
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08/28/2008 05:35:59 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by ti_evom:
Originally posted by Judi:
Well I would be interested to see the images of the voters who seem to know all the rules and the basis of the challenge. If they are such experts...then there image should be perfect....! |
*Bold emphasis mine*
Someone wrote on the purple thread:
You would be surprised how you could help a person. Often, one cannot see the forest for the trees...you work on an image both in setup and processing...and by the end, you have seen that image so much, that you just cannot see where to improve. The slightest remark from anyone can offer be the trigger to solving areas that has had the photographer stuck for sometime, no matter the experience of the viewer.
I tend to agree with what this person wrote above. You can be the most prolific picture taking and pp'ing guru, but even then, there may be some shots that you work on that may not be "dpc friendly," as many refer to it as being. You may be so infatuated with your own shot(maybe because you had to hike 10 miles to get to it, waded in chest deep water to take it, took one week to set up the studio, etc etc), that in your mind it's the BOMB. After putting in so much time for one shot, of course you're going to have high expectations! But do the rest of the voters know what you had to go through or even what you were thinking? Nope. Even the "pros" may vote similarly to the uneducated rank & file.
I wish folks would stop bickering over the meanings of challenges and then complain when their shot scores low which they then blame on trolls or voters who have no idea what is going on. I mean, c'mon, is ~5%(I'm talking 1,2,3's) of the vote really going to skew your score that much from the overall total? If those same people vote identically across the board, then everyone is going to be even-steven at the end. |
Touche!
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08/28/2008 05:31:38 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Photonut66:
So if you don't get the score you want, Or think you deserve, because someone interprets your photo differently than you intended they are all dumb or stupid or unintellectual in some way? |
Quite the opposite, Seeing you have versed yourself so strongly, The Road Less Traveled is about life or it was when I was growing up.
If it was required for this challenge to go out and photograph a road the challenge would have simply been called Roads as an extra meaning had been added in the description, as photographers in this art form we were asked to be creative in the challenge and include this meaning, and it was kept to basic editing.
But as I said this is my perspective and we are all entitled to an opinion.
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08/28/2008 05:29:23 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Judi:
Well I would be interested to see the images of the voters who seem to know all the rules and the basis of the challenge. If they are such experts...then there image should be perfect....! |
*Bold emphasis mine*
Someone wrote on the purple thread:
You would be surprised how you could help a person. Often, one cannot see the forest for the trees...you work on an image both in setup and processing...and by the end, you have seen that image so much, that you just cannot see where to improve. The slightest remark from anyone can offer be the trigger to solving areas that has had the photographer stuck for sometime, no matter the experience of the viewer.
I tend to agree with what this person wrote above. You can be the most prolific picture taking and pp'ing guru, but even then, there may be some shots that you work on that may not be "dpc friendly," as many refer to it as being. You may be so infatuated with your own shot(maybe because you had to hike 10 miles to get to it, waded in chest deep water to take it, took one week to set up the studio, etc etc), that in your mind it's the BOMB. After putting in so much time for one shot, of course you're going to have high expectations! But do the rest of the voters know what you had to go through or even what you were thinking? Nope. Even the "pros" may vote similarly to the uneducated rank & file.
I wish folks would stop bickering over the meanings of challenges and then complain when their shot scores low which they then blame on trolls or voters who have no idea what is going on. I mean, c'mon, is ~5%(I'm talking 1,2,3's) of the vote really going to skew your score that much from the overall total? If those same people vote identically across the board, then everyone is going to be even-steven at the end. |
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08/28/2008 02:49:34 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Martini_Beach:
apparently a road...means blacktop to most here, very disappointing |
Don't feel alone there. Mine is dropping and dropping, and dropping more, for probably the same reason. This is going to be one of my lowest scoring entries, on what I honestly believe is a pretty decent shot.
Message edited by author 2008-08-28 14:50:50. |
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08/28/2008 01:35:29 PM · #21 |
This is my first Challenge entry and I am a little disappointed at the lack of imagination among my commentaries... thanks however to all who posted a comment...
apparently a road...means blacktop to most here, very disappointing
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08/28/2008 12:56:23 PM · #22 |
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08/28/2008 11:02:23 AM · #23 |
Here's my miserable 100 vote check in.
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Avg Vote: 5.1400
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Serves me right for submitting a bad, last-minute photo. But in the spirit of the Olympics and all... :o|
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08/28/2008 08:36:41 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by Photonut66:
So if you dont get the score you want, Or think you deserve, because someone interprets your photo differently than you intended they are all dumb or stupid or unintellectual in some way? |
Well, that's what I'm telling myself. We are all misunderstood artistes.
Really, I think they are going by the challenge title with no further understanding of the topic. I honestly think mine is better than this, but I also knew it would be subject to "I don't get it, DNMC."
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Originally posted by BrianR:
I Voted as to my perception of The Road Less Traveled, I will state my perception after the challenge voting. |
Looking forward to reading your perception, as you left what I *think* is a positive comment on mine.
Message edited by author 2008-08-28 08:39:24. |
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08/28/2008 07:24:59 AM · #25 |
| So if you dont get the score you want, Or think you deserve, because someone interprets your photo differently than you intended they are all dumb or stupid or unintellectual in some way? |
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