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04/29/2008 06:53:19 PM · #1 |
Originally posted by Rino63:
bha!!!! sometimes i think that the peoples are really crazy. there are more problems that comes from the safety rules that from a real possibility of a terroristic attack! how many probability there are that you go under a terroristic attack? and how many possibilities there are that you go under a car??????? i think that is more dangerous across the street that the real terroristic attack! |
Hence this thread ... :-) |
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04/29/2008 06:52:17 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by yospiff:
I know of someone in my local area who was stopped from taking a nighttime photo of a skyscraper in downtown Dallas, again for "security" reasons. Visible from miles around, but the cop would not let him photograph it from that location. I think some of this behavior is simply so the authorities can feel they are doing something, even if it is ultimately misguided and ineffective. |
It wasn't the Bank of America building was it?
When I was in Dallas, on business, I tried taking a few pics of it and the cops gave me a ration of shit, mumbling some crap about 9/11 and "security concerns". As if.
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04/29/2008 06:32:21 PM · #3 |
| bha!!!! sometimes i think that the peoples are really crazy. there are more problems that comes from the safety rules that from a real possibility of a terroristic attack! how many probability there are that you go under a terroristic attack? and how many possibilities there are that you go under a car??????? i think that is more dangerous across the street that the real terroristic attack! |
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04/29/2008 06:22:29 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by SteveJ:
Originally posted by Trinch:
Does anyone else find it strange that they are holding town meetings in a church? |
Quite simply, nope! I think it is in the Bible belt, not too sure, but I guess if I ever go to the US, Memphis won't be on my list of places to visit! |
... and, the church probably has the only space big enough. So, not surprised. Churches have been known to rent out space on occasion. |
Our neighborhood civic meetings are held in a Russian Orthodox church. We must be spies. |
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04/29/2008 06:19:17 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by SteveJ:
Originally posted by Trinch:
Does anyone else find it strange that they are holding town meetings in a church? |
Quite simply, nope! I think it is in the Bible belt, not too sure, but I guess if I ever go to the US, Memphis won't be on my list of places to visit! |
... and, the church probably has the only space big enough. So, not surprised. Churches have been known to rent out space on occasion. |
The fact that it is in the Bible belt makes it even more odd. Furthermore, renting out the space is flat out sacrilege. It is a place for worship, not business. |
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04/29/2008 05:25:02 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by SteveJ:
Originally posted by Trinch:
Does anyone else find it strange that they are holding town meetings in a church? |
Quite simply, nope! I think it is in the Bible belt, not too sure, but I guess if I ever go to the US, Memphis won't be on my list of places to visit! |
... and, the church probably has the only space big enough. So, not surprised. Churches have been known to rent out space on occasion. |
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04/29/2008 04:47:11 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by AndyMac24:
I'll wear one that says "Not a Terrorist" and see what happens. |
Here's one in neon green
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04/29/2008 04:41:10 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Trinch:
Does anyone else find it strange that they are holding town meetings in a church? |
Quite simply, nope! I think it is in the Bible belt, not too sure, but I guess if I ever go to the US, Memphis won't be on my list of places to visit! |
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04/29/2008 04:33:00 PM · #9 |
| Does anyone else find it strange that they are holding town meetings in a church? |
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04/29/2008 04:26:01 PM · #10 |
I thought the easy way to get info on buildings and layouts of streets etc was to use Google Maps or similar.
I think we all need T-shirts with 'I'm a Photographer' on the front, and 'I am not a Tourist or a Terrorist!' on the back. It needs to be dayglow orange with a big arrow pointing to photogs rights printed on the hem.
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04/29/2008 04:22:50 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by yospiff:
I agree that this is nuts, but just to be the devil's advocate for a moment, let's remember 9-11. If we get the freedom to do such things unquestioned, then so do terrorists. |
Yup and I want to back to when we had more freedom - terrorists be damned. There was a fair bit of discussion around 9/11 about not "letting them win"...... Seems like they have won to me, based on the presumption of guilt that is now common.
The bottom line is building plans are far more useful and almost as easy to get as images..... besides a better then room temp IQ terrorist is going to google and grab whatever images they want rather then risking an operation. Unfortunately this IQ test excludes most rent-a-cops or other Jame Bond wanna-be types.
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04/29/2008 04:08:39 PM · #12 |
| Why don't they just buy surveilance photos at www.surveilancephotos.com like evryone else? |
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04/29/2008 03:51:15 PM · #13 |
"We will never do anything to interfere with anyone's First Amendment rights," Jackson said. "But we do ask people to be on the lookout for that individual who comes into the group and talks a little bit radical."
I'm very comforted by this. While I'm getting a full cavity search I'm at least allowed to complain about it!
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04/29/2008 03:49:58 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by yospiff:
Originally posted by posthumous:
How would harassing photographers have stopped 9-11? Competent government would have stopped 9-11, not to mention a foreign policy that didn't piss everybody off. |
It wouldn't. Which is why I was agreeing with everyone else. I was simply playing devils advocate and pointing out what these authorities are trying to accomplish. It is entirely possible that a terrorist could be scoping out an attack by taking photos of it from a public location. No way of really picking that out from thousands of others with cameras. He could also find those photos he needs already online, and satellite pics on Google and Yahoo. |
I was merely playing God's advocate...
(but do NOT tell Him. He hates when I do that.) |
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04/29/2008 03:16:02 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
How would harassing photographers have stopped 9-11? Competent government would have stopped 9-11, not to mention a foreign policy that didn't piss everybody off. |
It wouldn't. Which is why I was agreeing with everyone else. I was simply playing devils advocate and pointing out what these authorities are trying to accomplish. It is entirely possible that a terrorist could be scoping out an attack by taking photos of it from a public location. No way of really picking that out from thousands of others with cameras. He could also find those photos he needs already online, and satellite pics on Google and Yahoo. |
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04/29/2008 03:14:33 PM · #16 |
so are the coppers going to stop the preponderances of people
cellphone cameras ? when was the last person with a cellphone stopped & asked to show pics ??
this is just nuts ,,
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04/29/2008 03:06:28 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by yospiff:
I agree that this is nuts, but just to be the devil's advocate for a moment, let's remember 9-11. If we get the freedom to do such things unquestioned, then so do terrorists. |
How would harassing photographers have stopped 9-11? Competent government would have stopped 9-11, not to mention a foreign policy that didn't piss everybody off. |
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04/29/2008 02:42:27 PM · #18 |
| And at dinner one of the guys reading his Blackberry was telling us you can't travel outside of the US with a laptop computer that may have software restricted by export agreements. They apparently can confiscate your laptop? Huh? |
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04/29/2008 02:38:32 PM · #19 |
I agree that this is nuts, but just to be the devil's advocate for a moment, let's remember 9-11. If we get the freedom to do such things unquestioned, then so do terrorists.
I know of someone in my local area who was stopped from taking a nighttime photo of a skyscraper in downtown Dallas, again for "security" reasons. Visible from miles around, but the cop would not let him photograph it from that location. I think some of this behavior is simply so the authorities can feel they are doing something, even if it is ultimately misguided and ineffective. |
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04/29/2008 02:13:20 PM · #20 |
I believe it was Ben Franklin who was credited for saying, "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
It was never truer than today!
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04/28/2008 10:00:42 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by AndyMac24:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
I think I'm gonna go out this weekend and take pictures of bridges and buildings wearing a T-shirt that says "F%$# Government" on it. |
I'll wear one that says "Not a Terrorist" and see what happens. |
Only if you wear a headscarf... |
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04/28/2008 09:10:01 PM · #22 |
| for freedom to thrive evil unfortunately must be allowed to live.We are the "land of the Free" but we have more people in prison then the rest of the world. " there trying to build a prision one for you and me to live" explain that one!!!?? I am am so sick of everyday hearing more and more of our supposed freedoms being taken away. When is it gonna stop when everyone is under close watch 24 hours 7 days a week? I mean by the current form of thinking all of out founding fathers would be shipped away to Guantanamo Bay and never heard from again. I truely belive that our founding fathers would be horrorified if they knew what they dream has become. This country was founded to get away from the same bullcrap that we now have to deal with x1000. I guess you could say I am taxed with represention but what choices do the give me? Sorry but I am starting to feel that we as a country (usa) are getting screwed more and more everyday. Is my kid gonna be paying 500 dollars for a candy bar when he grows up if candy bars are even available? kinda lost track of what I was writing but my original thought is .....If a free society is to exsist then we have to deal with potential evils things and people attacking us without imprisioning it citizens or else what is the point of having a free society? I once heard someone say that the safest city to walk around in was berlin in 1939. Think about that one for a bit let it sink in. |
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04/28/2008 09:04:53 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
I think I'm gonna go out this weekend and take pictures of bridges and buildings wearing a T-shirt that says "F%$# Government" on it. |
I'll wear one that says "Not a Terrorist" and see what happens.
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04/28/2008 09:01:58 PM · #24 |
| I think I'm gonna go out this weekend and take pictures of bridges and buildings wearing a T-shirt that says "F%$# Government" on it. |
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04/28/2008 08:51:43 PM · #25 |
| My favorite quote...Hmmmmm.... "But we do ask people to be on the lookout for that individual who comes into the group and talks a little bit radical." |
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