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03/09/2004 01:04:45 AM · #1 |
Today has been a little better, after 3 days of steadily sinking scores, my score today has begun to climb back up again.
Votes: 246
Avg. Vote: 5.4309
Comments: 8 ---------> :(
Message edited by author 2004-03-09 01:05:26.
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03/06/2004 09:17:14 PM · #2 |
Votes: 195
Avg Vote: 6.1590
Comments: 23
I am new to the challange and I have appreciated all the coments. I will make it a habit to comment on many more then I have, I have gotten several comments that made me think on how to make it better. I hope I do OK this seems like a preety good score. |
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03/06/2004 02:27:24 PM · #3 |
| Thanks Marjo, i did not realize that , i have edited |
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03/06/2004 02:06:09 PM · #4 |
Hi General and welcome.
You might want to edit your post. We are not supposed to reveal our submission while the challenge is still being voted on.
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03/06/2004 01:35:10 PM · #5 |
i received 14 comments,99.9% nice .1 % confused abt my title,
I got an avg 4.7, much better than what i would have even given myself , people have been kind to me and i entered in 2 contest Some how i have never could give my best.
I have a friend at another forum, he tears u apart i mean literally this guy is rips you apart whenever you countribute, i have recently started photography and had done this photograph that can be described as text book snap, his reviews were so critical that i wanted to tear my hand so that i had something to throw at him. ( i had my camera but i would never throw that at him)
After 5 min i realised as usual his criticism were right.
If people like him are not there i will never reach where i want to be
Message edited by author 2004-03-06 14:26:19. |
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03/06/2004 10:31:01 AM · #6 |
| i got a few more votes and a few more comments, people really dont like my lighting ideas. so it goes. still holding at 4.2 , 190 votes, 15 comments |
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03/06/2004 02:17:46 AM · #7 |
Votes: 186
Ave. Vote: 4.8763
Comments: 4 (all fairly postive)
In the last 24 hours, I've received 36 votes, and 1 comment. My score has increased from 4.8333. Still holding out for at least a 5 -- I mean, c'mon -- the picture clearly fits the challenge and is technically good. How could anyone not see that?
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03/06/2004 01:48:57 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by orussell:
Votes: 179
Avg Vote: 5.6425
Comments: 8
Mine is far from original and I do believe it would have fared better if not for the fact that many people love to hate certain subjects; some people are going to vote certain things down just because that's what they do best. Keep up the great work trolls. ;p |
well you are doing better than me... with everything.. however i do have more votes.. it is also laster in the day... (192 votes), i only have 5 comments :(
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03/06/2004 01:11:09 AM · #9 |
| how about someone explains what a mountain has to do with silence? unless the forground includes a man in a glass box that has "soundproof" written on it, im hearing birds and wind and general outdoor noise, i mean sure you live next to a nice purdy mountain, doesnt really mean it has to be the subject of every single challenge photo you take... be more creative is all. |
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03/05/2004 06:00:46 PM · #10 |
Votes: 179
Avg Vote: 5.6425
Comments: 8
Mine is far from original and I do believe it would have fared better if not for the fact that many people love to hate certain subjects; some people are going to vote certain things down just because that's what they do best. Keep up the great work trolls. ;p
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03/05/2004 05:03:10 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by leaf:
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Originally posted by scalvert:
I agree with the general lack of originality here- there were quite a few 'expected' shots. |
Personally, I don't really care if the same subject has been chosen by many. It's really unfair (although understandable) to vote down the nth mountain just because it's the nth mountain that came onto your screen during voting. The picture quality is the most important factor here. A mountain, for example, can be breathtakingly well captured or feebly shot.
Judge the photo on its own merits, please. |
sure, yes, i agree, but if i felt that a finger over the lips was unoriginal or uncreative, my position is only strengthened after the nth finger over the lips... hopefully i will vote them all down equally enough.. (however, not to say that a person can't do a finger over the lips creativly. .it is just more difficult) |
Well, you can't help for the fact what people put up. I didn't know that a gazillion other people would post a photo like mine. It's not fair to vote people down for others posted. That is just stupid!
Some people may have posted a finger to the lips... but I look at how it is different, what stands out about each individual picture.... so what?!?!
Message edited by author 2004-03-05 17:04:08.
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03/05/2004 11:54:17 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by Koriyama:
[quote=scalvert] I agree with the general lack of originality here- there were quite a few 'expected' shots. |
" The picture quality is the most important factor here. A mountain, for example, can be breathtakingly well captured or feebly shot."
...but isn't it also as important to convey challenge, I veiw technically beautiful work but like someone esle said, it's an assignment and if you don't convey your challenge well- a great photo means little.
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03/05/2004 11:39:14 AM · #13 |
| There is always room for shots of the swiss alps. There will never be the same techniques or angle in taking those shots so it's always iteresting to see and always takes on a new shooting aspect that you can learn from. |
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03/05/2004 11:06:12 AM · #14 |
Votes: 165
Avg Vote: 4.8182
Comments: 8
I guess I'm not doing too bad. My photo is unlike any of the others, so at least I'm glad it was somewhat original. All comments so far have been positive, but I would have liked to see more of them... :^S |
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03/05/2004 05:25:14 AM · #15 |
Votes: 166
Avg Vote: 3.3735
Comments: 20
Best representative comment: I hope you enjoy the hammering. ;^)
And if somebody will say, that he had nasty comments, then you have to read what i have!
You all can say, that i can not take shots like i made, but i did not made it personally for somebody. But your comments are personaly to me! Who is more cruel!!
Ok, internet is impersonal and i can be here, who i am not in real life. Please do not think, that my pictures are my world! Actually i am very nice person and against any miltarsm or killing people or animals.
and sorry for my bad english
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03/05/2004 05:17:56 AM · #16 |
I changed my style of shot completely for this challenge and mentioned in my submission write up that I expected to get a bit of flak.
Got that one right..
Can`t say too much about the major problem as it would pretty well identify it..but it seems that I have used a style that voters either love or hate...even some who liked the picture reckon I ruined it with this technique.Other commenters think that the shot stands out because of the technique. ??
What have I learned from this ?......as mentioned earlier...you can`t please all of the people all of the time :(
Gordon
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03/05/2004 04:58:21 AM · #17 |
A lot of the locations don't give me a sense of silence (wind blowing), not all sleeping pictures give me the feeling also (snore). Oh well back to voting how good the picture are instead of meeting the challenge.
Note: No entry because I couldn't think of anything original :)
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03/05/2004 02:13:58 AM · #18 |
Someone with discriminating taste and unqualified excellence in judgment just gave my entry an 8 within the last hour. Yes, I did the math. Nice way to end the evening and go to bed, even if my image is still stuck at 4.8333, and only three comments after 150 scores!
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03/05/2004 02:01:08 AM · #19 |
Votes: 162
Avg Vote: 5.0000
Comments: 5
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03/05/2004 01:52:51 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by f-32:
- but maybe we need a few less-positive comments to give a reality check. |
Apparently quite a few people have stopped leaving critical comments because of unkind responses from the photographers. So far, I've been lucky enough to be unscathed on that front, so I still do when I get time to comment properly. |
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03/05/2004 12:19:48 AM · #21 |
Votes: 154
Avg Vote: 6.0000
Comments: 11
I'd be dancing with joy with that score if it'd only started somewhere near the 6, but it's been sinking slowly since about ... Wednesday at noon. Admittedly, all comments were positive (THANKS, guys!) - but maybe we need a few less-positive comments to give a reality check.
So, for my suggestion, whatever you may score them, try to comment on a few more pix, folks. (I mean, my family only says nice things about my work - all y'all are my peers, not my family. HELP ME - and each other - by commenting, suggesting... possibly not flaming, but giving actual criticisms...) Just my opinion. Worth what you paid for it, right?)
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03/05/2004 12:04:18 AM · #22 |
Votes:152
Avg Vote:4.3289
Comments:14
I was expecting a little higher of a score than that, although I'm not too sure since none of my other images have done all that well.
Most of my coments either say something like they can relate to it, or it's a good idea and creative, or funny, but nothing about actually being able to improve the image. |
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03/04/2004 10:38:13 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Originally posted by scalvert:
I agree with the general lack of originality here- there were quite a few 'expected' shots. |
Personally, I don't really care if the same subject has been chosen by many. It's really unfair (although understandable) to vote down the nth mountain just because it's the nth mountain that came onto your screen during voting. The picture quality is the most important factor here. A mountain, for example, can be breathtakingly well captured or feebly shot.
Judge the photo on its own merits, please. |
sure, yes, i agree, but if i felt that a finger over the lips was unoriginal or uncreative, my position is only strengthened after the nth finger over the lips... hopefully i will vote them all down equally enough.. (however, not to say that a person can't do a finger over the lips creativly. .it is just more difficult)
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03/04/2004 10:26:57 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by Ecce Signum:
Originally posted by louddog:
Whenever I get a negative comment I go check the persons account to see the quality of their work. If they have done well overall I make note of the comment as a way to improve myself. If I disagree with the comment and the person has never done too well in any of the challenges I just blow it off.
PS: I bet the average vote on the Silence challenge is over 4.9. |
I guess it depends on what you mean by a negative comment. A comment/s stating the picture is out of focus or over sharpened (for example) is not a negative comment but constructive critisism in the eyes of the commenter and should be taken as such. Now something like "it sucks" is negative and without foundation and belays anything other than stupid commenting and should be ignored.
I look at the profiles of all my commenters and might (as you do) pay more attention to a 'good' photographers comment. However, just because somebody is not at the very pinnacle of this art does not mean they do not know what is good or bad (in their eyes) and I welcome all constructive critisism from good and not so good photographers.
Tonight I saw (another) 1 for my fire challenge and it cut me, if there had been a comment I might have learnt why. |
Good point. But still, if they haven't done well in challenges doesn't mean they doen't have something to offer.
When I comment I like to give constuctrive critism, but then also give something that I liked. So it balences it out |
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03/04/2004 09:22:10 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
I agree with the general lack of originality here- there were quite a few 'expected' shots. |
Personally, I don't really care if the same subject has been chosen by many. It's really unfair (although understandable) to vote down the nth mountain just because it's the nth mountain that came onto your screen during voting. The picture quality is the most important factor here. A mountain, for example, can be breathtakingly well captured or feebly shot.
Judge the photo on its own merits, please.
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