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04/30/2008 11:44:41 PM · #1 |
Gallatin: But a gift can be expensive, and still atractive to the thief!, He/She wont care or gonna feel bad cause it was a gift!
ShutterPug: and if "the suposed thief" werent really a thief? you just hitted him anyways?
I still... would say, cheap on ebay or a second hand gift (and cheap), and if they ask me to see it or hold it, I mention an infection thing that he/she would be afraid of! would you still hold the cam of someone that has hepatitis or aids?, anyways would be better with a direct contact infection (and hep and hiv isnt), maybe herpes or illness of the kiss or whatever is called? :P
Message edited by author 2008-04-30 23:47:37. |
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04/30/2008 10:07:52 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Them: Nice camera, was it expensive?
Me: I don't remember.
Them: You don't remember?
Me: No, I was dropped on my head as a baby and I can't remember any numbers. |
HEY! I WAS dropped on my head as a baby , and I have no problem remembering......umm what was it I was getting at? |
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04/30/2008 10:06:44 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by yakatme:
If he runs with it then grab him quickly to slow him down and put your thumb in his eye. If you do it right then I guarantee you that he will let go of the camera and will not be able to retaliate. Just be ready to grab the camera or camera strap before it hits the ground.
Like I posted in Enzo's thread, with the kind of people we sometimes encounter these days, it is important to know how to confidently defend yourself, your family, and what belongs to you. Violations to what is important to us are occurring more and more frequently. |
If you don't feel comfy putting his eye out, you can also just slam two knuckles of a closed fist into his adam's apple, then call medics to help him breathe again. |
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04/30/2008 10:02:54 PM · #4 |
| I will never tell anyone the price of my camera or lens again, I liked the reply that some one else said on this forum; it was a gift. |
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04/30/2008 09:26:26 PM · #5 |
heh, nice discussion ;)
I would answer to the price question, that it was cheap on ebay or a gift (but second hand and cheap aswell),
and to the question, can I see it/hold it? would answer, Im sorry I would let you if I didnt had "any sickness" that can be transmitted on contact (as well as holding the camera without sterilizing it before) :P
I would see that persons face after that! ;)
Do you guys/gals know any sickness/illness/infection that we all camera folk could suddenly have? :P
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02/06/2008 01:26:51 PM · #6 |
Them: Nice camera, was it expensive?
Me: I don't remember.
Them: You don't remember?
Me: No, I was dropped on my head as a baby and I can't remember any numbers.
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02/06/2008 12:01:06 PM · #7 |
The easiest... Not sure, it's an older model and they don't sell it now.
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02/06/2008 11:26:53 AM · #8 |
I always answer a question with a question, if I don't want to give an answer.
Just keep asking them questions till they quit asking. Why do you want to know? or Who are you?
Then if they want to buy one, you say mines not for sale,
but on eBay or look in Popular Photography magazine.
Then if you must, just say:
"That's a personal thing." or "I don't usually discuss personal things with people I don't know." |
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02/01/2008 11:10:42 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
If you pull a gun, you better damn well be prepared to fire it and fire it well, 'cause a gun is not something to threaten someone with, it's to shoot them.
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Yeah, guns are bad....
:-D
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02/01/2008 11:02:50 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by trevytrev:
Yes, I have a permit to carry a gun but that's the last thing I want to do is have to pull that thing out, why? Because that means I've gotten myself in a life or death situation and there is no guarantee that it's going to save my life at that point, but it does give me an edge. My instructor for my permit made a great point, don't rely on the gun to get you out of a situation, rely on yourself to keep you out of the situation. |
The bottom line is that if you do have/carry a gun, and you get into a "situation", are you fully prepared to pull it and take someone's life over a camera and/or your bad judgement in where you ended up?
If you pull a gun, you better damn well be prepared to fire it and fire it well, 'cause a gun is not something to threaten someone with, it's to shoot them.
I don't put myself in places any more where I'm likely to get robbed, accosted, or worse, and I don't do stupid things like wander around on other people's property without their express permission.
Yeah, there's always the random chance I'll end up in a bad situation, but I go out of my way to pay attention to my surroundings.
Be safe, sensible, courteous, and responsible and you generally won't find yourself in a bad situation.
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02/01/2008 09:45:39 PM · #11 |
"Quite a bit more than it's worth today" :-)
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02/01/2008 09:06:48 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by hopper:
i've never even heard of a chatty thief ... but hey, what do i know |
Usually they'll only talk in brief questions I.E. "what time is it? or Do you have a light?" This is to get you to drop your guard as they approach you. This is usually followed very quickly by a weapon and their demands. Any other talk is usually telling you to hurry up or threats for non compliance. |
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02/01/2008 08:45:51 PM · #13 |
i've never even heard of a chatty thief ... but hey, what do i know
Originally posted by neophyte:
Originally posted by hopper:
This is pretty much my thinking as well. If you're going to get robbed or beaten up, odds are the preceding conversation isn't going to matter much. |
Nothing could be further from the truth. The fact that a potential thief started a conversation means he's not sure and is looking for an opening. How you respond could persuade him to look for another opportunity i.e. something easier. Most crooks would do it like Matatate presented using surprise and commiting the crime more expediently. A conversation gives you time to get a better look at them. Not exactly would a pro wants.... |
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02/01/2008 07:27:28 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by hopper:
This is pretty much my thinking as well. If you're going to get robbed or beaten up, odds are the preceding conversation isn't going to matter much. |
Nothing could be further from the truth. The fact that a potential thief started a conversation means he's not sure and is looking for an opening. How you respond could persuade him to look for another opportunity i.e. something easier. Most crooks would do it like Matatate presented using surprise and commiting the crime more expediently. A conversation gives you time to get a better look at them. Not exactly would a pro wants.... |
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02/01/2008 05:29:40 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Bujanx:
some homeless looking guy came up and started questioning me about the camera |
I had heard there was no money in photography....
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02/01/2008 04:05:35 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Bujanx:
When I asked him 'So, why are you dressed like that?' he said 'dressed like what?'. |
Haha! A photographer from the old school. :-D |
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02/01/2008 04:04:30 PM · #17 |
*shrug*
I've never had a problem with telling people about the cameras I'm using. About a month and a half ago I was shooting downtown here and some homeless looking guy came up and started questioning me about the camera, what type was it, where did I get it, what was I shooting etc. I answered all his questions, let him look at it a bit and next thing I know he's pulling a D3 out of his crusty backpack and is giving me advice on camera settings, lighting etc.
When I asked him 'So, why are you dressed like that?' he said 'dressed like what?'.
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02/01/2008 03:48:15 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by metatate:
....snip.....I'm skinny but I don't think I looked too girly :) ......snip.... |
Hehe. Apparently that guy has pretty poor taste in women. ;-P
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02/01/2008 03:47:05 PM · #19 |
Stranger- Nice camera
Me - thanks
stranger - How much was it
Me - mind your own business, now if you don't mind Im busy
stranger - no need to be rude mate
Me - no need to be F-in nosey either now bugger off before i whoop your freaky ass all over town.
Sometimes it's the only language they understand, It's never happened to me but I guess at 6 foot and fat with a big heavy tripod I don't attract the trouble seakers.. I have 10 years of anger to unleash on the first one that does so feel sorry for HIM.
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02/01/2008 03:43:15 PM · #20 |
thats the advantage of having a big, old, clunky 1dMkII - everyone thinks its old and worthless because its so big
'you know you can get smaller cameras these days' |
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02/01/2008 03:31:08 PM · #21 |
I was mugged a couple of years ago for a Nikon coolpix 880! (awesome first digi-cam)
It was in a bag and someone came up behind me and put something cold (allegedly a gun) on my neck. "Give me the F--king purse!" -- He thought it was a purse (I'm skinny but I don't think I looked too girly :). Anyway there it went, and he didn't even know what it was!!!
Now I get a lil' nervous alone in Cleveland in sketchy areas with a D300. I think about the question all the time - what to do, what to say. I think I'm going to say "It's an old film camera from my Dad" --
but generally if someone determines the value of your item with the question about price, unfortunately he/she probably doesn't have the photo skills to pay bills - so I don't wanna flatter them with a real answer - especially when I need to include a caveat "The camera was $19XX after tax, the memory card was $120 and the lens was $7XX ... do you want to steal it from me???"
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02/01/2008 03:28:17 PM · #22 |
"I don't know, my 6'8" 300 pound gay lover with an insane temper and due back any minute gave it to me as a present"
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02/01/2008 03:16:51 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
I think you can either go through life assuming the worst of everyone you don't know or relax and enjoy the ride, knowing full well you might, possibly, have a bad experience. I choose the latter. |
Nice philosophy. I didn't mean to give the impression that I live in constant fear.
Originally posted by levyj413:
If you think someone's going to run with your camera in a crowded coffee shop... |
Well, when you put it that way... LOL. No, seriously, it wasn't like that. Ah, well, never mind. :-/
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02/01/2008 03:11:37 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by bradshaw:
That and a rocket propelled grenade launcher but who can fit that in their camera bag when your also carrying a 70-200? |
Can't you buy the grenade launcher that attaches to the bottom of that? |
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02/01/2008 03:07:16 PM · #25 |
| when ever some one asks me about my camera gear I just tell the truth if they ask the question intending to steal they are going to steal it no matter what you say it costs as its a pretty well known fact that cameras aren't cheap and are easy to resell. If I am worried about my camera being stolen because of the area I am in I will usually keep it in my camera bag when I'm not shooting. The best defense from your gear getting stolen in my opinion is having a camera bag that doesn't look like a camera bag and going shooting with another person. That and a rocket propelled grenade launcher but who can fit that in their camera bag when your also carrying a 70-200? |
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