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01/16/2008 01:00:55 AM · #1
Congrates guys I think anybody who averages more 6 in free study is heck of a photographer.
(I am not sure if I am even close to these people).
Hats off.
01/16/2008 12:45:53 AM · #2
Congrats to the superstars, new calc sounds interesting.
Lynne
finishing up 21st, beat out for 20th by Pedro who didn't even have to enter the last two months to do that. :-P
01/08/2008 04:07:47 PM · #3
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Isn't there some kind of muddy beige ribbon for the person who got the highest standing and never broke 6.0 for the entire run? LOL!!!

ETA: Thanks, Scott for your work and commitment to this project.

And oh yeah, congrats to you bastids that won!.....8>)


Well done, Jeb! You managed to keep ahead of me and take the higher position.

Still, 2008 starts here, good luck!
01/08/2008 04:05:13 PM · #4
Originally posted by alexgarcia:

Originally posted by levyj413:

Ah, good points. Well, Scott, since you've captured all our running averages, maybe there could be a second award for biggest difference between our average right now and the average of our 2008 FS? That would be a separate award, equivalent to "Most Improved."


That would be a lovely idea, something like the most improved player on the nba. I think this would be great.

Álex.


If it uses our all time averages rather than a smaller more recent sample, which would be far more accurate, it won't reward the most improved. This is what happened in the old WPL when an already great (by DPC standards) Joey Lawrence won most improved even though all he did was perform at the same level he had been prior to the WPL but because of his low overall average 5.7 currently, he won it. Such a player can keep winning it every year without any improvement in this kind of format. Overall average is a very poor indicator of current ability and performance.

Message edited by author 2008-01-08 16:07:03.
01/08/2008 03:44:25 PM · #5
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01/08/2008 03:38:27 PM · #6
Originally posted by scarbrd:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

testing my new, self-important signature...


Man, that blue looks sooooo out of place.

Sticks out like a sore thumb.
01/08/2008 03:35:50 PM · #7
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

testing my new, self-important signature...


Man, that blue looks sooooo out of place.
01/08/2008 03:28:49 PM · #8
Congrats on the winners. I intend to get higher than 13th this year. LOL!
01/08/2008 03:24:09 PM · #9
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

loving sig...

LOL! You'll have to start signing your posts with

<3 & Slippers (instead of Hugs & Kisses)!!
01/08/2008 03:21:11 PM · #10
loving sig...
01/08/2008 03:13:01 PM · #11
testing my new, self-important signature...
01/08/2008 02:46:20 PM · #12
Originally posted by levyj413:

Ah, good points. Well, Scott, since you've captured all our running averages, maybe there could be a second award for biggest difference between our average right now and the average of our 2008 FS? That would be a separate award, equivalent to "Most Improved."


That would be a lovely idea, something like the most improved player on the nba. I think this would be great.

Álex.
01/08/2008 02:39:37 PM · #13
Originally posted by alexgarcia:

Sorry, Jeffrey, but don't agree here and prefer Scott proposal. It will be very hard to the best photogs to win if every month they have to fight against their high average. I coonsider it will be not fair that best shooters can't win because, obviously, their improvement can be not so big. I consider this more of an incentive to improve.
That said, I would benefit if this rule was every month, LOL.

Álex.


Ah, good points. Well, Scott, since you've captured all our running averages, maybe there could be a second award for biggest difference between our average right now and the average of our 2008 FS? That would be a separate award, equivalent to "Most Improved."
01/08/2008 02:28:41 PM · #14
Originally posted by levyj413:

Scott, that's an interesting idea, and one I like very much.

So your total score at the end is your placement points for each month plus a single FSM improvement score?

I would recommend doing it every month, instead. Imagine a scenario where someone steadily improves all year. Giving them a single FSM improvement at the end reflects only their latest average, whereas a high score early in the year represents a serious improvement for them at that point.


Sorry, Jeffrey, but don't agree here and prefer Scott proposal. It will be very hard to the best photogs to win if every month they have to fight against their high average. I coonsider it will be not fair that best shooters can't win because, obviously, their improvement can be not so big. I consider this more of an incentive to improve.
That said, I would benefit if this rule was every month, LOL.

Álex.
01/08/2008 02:09:27 PM · #15
Scott, that's an interesting idea, and one I like very much.

So your total score at the end is your placement points for each month plus a single FSM improvement score?

I would recommend doing it every month, instead. Imagine a scenario where someone steadily improves all year. Giving them a single FSM improvement at the end reflects only their latest average, whereas a high score early in the year represents a serious improvement for them at that point.
01/08/2008 01:34:57 PM · #16
Ah, I didn't realize it only counted once. I thought it counted each month. Interesting.
01/08/2008 01:15:21 PM · #17
Originally posted by glad2badad:

So you're grabbing a one-time base value for all participants; their year-ending DPC average?

On January 1st, 2008 every participants DPC Overall average was loaded into the database. Thats what the FSM improvement score will be based on.
01/08/2008 01:10:26 PM · #18
So you're grabbing a one-time base value for all participants; their year-ending DPC average?
01/08/2008 01:03:49 PM · #19
Originally posted by levyj413:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Next year, with the handicap system ...


Handicap system? Where is that described?

The 2008 season will have a added feature called FSM Improvement. It's rewards each user points at the end of each free study based on their DPC Overall average and their 2008 FSM average. These points will fluctuate month to month based on your your average difference. A good example would be if in January your FSM average was 6.000 and your DPC Overall average was 5.5000 then you would an improvement of +0.5000. Lets say you had the highest improvement score then you would receive 180 pts added to your Jan points. Then in February your FSM average was 5.9000, then your improvement would be +0.4000. Lets say that you had the 5th highest improvement score, you would receive 175 points. So your improvement points dropped 5 points from one month to another. Here is how it would look.


January
January Monthly Points 180
FSM Improvement Points 180
Total FSM Points 360

February
January Monthly Points 180
February Monthly Points 180
FSM Improvement Points 175
Total FSM Points 535


Notice that the FSM Improvement score only counts once, not each month. It will go up or down based on your improvement difference.
01/08/2008 12:43:36 PM · #20
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Next year, with the handicap system ...


Handicap system? Where is that described?
01/08/2008 11:41:59 AM · #21
Originally posted by yanko:

Congrats to the winners. I have a feeling next year will be even more competitive.


Yeah - i'm in there this year ;)

haha, well, at least i am taking part - adding to the "competition" i suppose.

Congrats to the winners. Always a pleasure to see the shots you come up with, and thanks in advance for setting this up Scott, i'm sure i'll have fun this year being forced into taking photos...
01/08/2008 11:40:46 AM · #22
Congrats to the winners!

Note to self: don't skip 5 challenges and expect to finish higher than 48th!
01/08/2008 11:30:28 AM · #23
Big congrats to the winners! And thanks to Scott!

ok some echo around here ;)

for sure it was great. AS for me, it really pushed me to do each FS and therefore at least shoot once a month. With my busy schedule, not always easy, but for sure helpful.

looking forward to 2008 FSM!
01/08/2008 03:19:26 AM · #24
Big congrats to the winners! And thanks to Scott for keeping this alive!
01/08/2008 03:14:06 AM · #25
Congrats to Scott for the big competition this has been. You've done a wonderful job. Thanks a lot.
And congrats to the winners and all the participants.
In a personal key, I'm very happy with my 22th. And I have a goal for the next year.

Álex.
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