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01/10/2008 12:35:31 AM · #1 |
I have learned one thing that to score 6.25+ in free studies your shot has to have something extraordinary in it. At least a small WOW in it.
I scored 6.4x in this free study and at least 3 comments wrote wow.
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01/10/2008 12:21:37 AM · #2 |
| Thanks to all who participated in this - the comments are outstanding! I really appreciate the close look and honest opinions I received on mine. It's nice to know that while the appeal wasn't very universal, I at least did a decent job of presenting my shot and that the basic elements of composition were there. That tells me a lot. I hope everyone got a lot out of this exercise, both with respect to their own shot, and in the process of making comments on the photographs of others. Thanks again! |
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01/09/2008 03:03:10 PM · #3 |
4.7558
I seriously thought this shot was a 6ish and it tanked BADLY!!! I have never been so wrong about an entry before. I just loved the shadows and highlights and the different lines.
I took it with my S3 as we were just showing my sis around the island after lunch and I only had my "purse camera" with me.
I do agree with the few people who suggested a crop at the bottom. I went back and forth on that decision when submitting it, and leaned slightly towards the uncropped version.
Message edited by author 2008-01-09 15:04:33.
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01/09/2008 09:01:08 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by rider:
ok so i really need some help here ---have had a couple comments on my shot for sharpness and contrast which i just don't understand maby someone can explain this  [thumb]630883[/thumb] here's a 100% crop on the sign above thee bridge on a 16 bit tiff i could only save for web at about 80% but viewed the shot at 200 % and of course it was pixelated but i figured it was as sharp as possibel? Ps i really hate unsharp and offf comments--lol |
Remember that voters are seeing a resize of your original, while your original is really sharp as your crop shows, the image we got to vote on lacks that "punch" that is so important in DPC.
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01/09/2008 07:28:45 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by jmritz:
Originally posted by jmritz:
Here's mine. I still like it but do understand the reason why it got a low score. My emotional feelings toward the image got in the way of better judgment. Without the face showing...
It was an emotional moment when that little bird was rubbing it's head up against that branch. There was a feeling of connection between the two that was quite touching.
I'm off to work in a few so will be back later today to comment on some of the images. |
I pulled this image at the last day or so. My Daughter told me not to change it with the one I put in. Next time I'm listening to her.
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i would have rated this higher also i think this is very nice! the cardnal that is
Message edited by author 2008-01-09 07:29:23. |
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01/09/2008 07:26:04 AM · #6 |
[thumb]630946[/thumb]for those that wanted to see the inside of the bridge this is the best i could do this is overexposed about 3 stops for the orignal image
ok so i really need some help here ---have had a couple comments on my shot for sharpness and contrast which i just don't understand maby someone can explain this [thumb]630883[/thumb] here's a 100% crop on the sign above thee bridge on a 16 bit tiff i could only save for web at about 80% but viewed the shot at 200 % and of course it was pixelated but i figured it was as sharp as possibel? Ps i really hate unsharp and offf comments--lol
Message edited by author 2008-01-09 11:43:35. |
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01/08/2008 10:45:14 PM · #7 |
Thanks to all who left comments, I left comments on my assigned people, but as long as nobody minds, over the next few days I just want to have at it with some others just 'cause I liked 'em, and the Hell with the scores!
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01/08/2008 10:12:47 PM · #8 |
Here is mine.
I just like the whole feel of it - it's a little bit different and the railroad tracks draw the viewer in - I like that. I almost used this for the Isolation by Contrast challenge. It may have scored better there???
I will focus on making comments tomorrow. |
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01/08/2008 09:54:11 PM · #9 |
| Well, I think I commented on everyone who left a thumbnail. Hopefully I didn't leave anyone out. |
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01/08/2008 09:08:57 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by jmritz:
I pulled this image at the last day or so. My Daughter told me not to change it with the one I put in. Next time I'm listening to her.
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Oh yeah, you definitely shouda listened to her, a great capture!
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01/08/2008 09:07:13 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Kali:
It seems most people only blather out the common things they hear (too centerd, not sharp enuf, DOF off) ugh... buncha robots I tell ya! I don't care for conventional thinking. Oh and I'm not speaking specifically about my image, just generally on from what I've seen from those in this thread. |
Hmm, i think that came out wrong... i didn't mean that people in this thread were the robots... but the majority of the commenter's during voting for the majority of the pix in this thread.
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01/08/2008 06:38:42 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by jmritz:
Here's mine. I still like it but do understand the reason why it got a low score. My emotional feelings toward the image got in the way of better judgment. Without the face showing...
It was an emotional moment when that little bird was rubbing it's head up against that branch. There was a feeling of connection between the two that was quite touching.
I'm off to work in a few so will be back later today to comment on some of the images. |
I pulled this image at the last day or so. My Daughter told me not to change it with the one I put in. Next time I'm listening to her.
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01/08/2008 04:26:59 PM · #13 |
Thanks to all of those who were kind enough to leave me comments.
I've left comments for  Rgarcia,  Melethia, scarbrd, NikonJeb,  Tim, jmritz, BAMartin, KarenNfld, redjulep, rider, Kali, JRalston, jaysonmc, angelfire, xianart and sulamk. |
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01/08/2008 04:26:03 PM · #14 |
Going through and making comments now:
Here is mine, bottom of the heap
Here is what I like, the general shapes and colors.My dog was also diagnosed with Cushing's disease recently, and a symptom is often increased intake of water. I also like the fact that consider how difficult of a shot it was as far a technique, I pulled it off quite well. In an ideal scenario, I would have preferred a lower ISO and a smaller aperture. Still I enjoyed the photo the way it came out. |
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01/08/2008 04:20:03 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
This is just a revamp for general consumption.....
[thumb]630431[/thumb] |
Jeb, The revamp is much better than the submitted entry in my opinion. |
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01/08/2008 02:15:00 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
 Finished at 5.75, 61%.
I really love it, I think it's a gorgeous landscape. But obviously I am wrong. I have come to the conclusion that DPC does not like blue skies and pretty pictures. If it is not tone mapped or HDR it won't score as well. Personally I am not a fan of HDR or tone mapping, I think it ruins a photo. |
I agree, HDR ruins so many photo's or me. I really do think your score is appropriate for the image of a FS Challenge. I feel like I should be telling you Congratulations instead of siding with why you scored low. It's a lovely exposure.
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01/08/2008 01:46:37 PM · #17 |
I knew it would tank but I just couldn't resist this one.
It's fairly obvious why I love my shot. While I am very emotionally attached to my baby I think this image shows everyone a bit of what kind of personality she is developing. I think my vignette might have made the image appear too soft, whatever, I think it's perfect.
Avg (commenters): 6.2727 - I'll just assume that as my final score :)
It seems most people only blather out the common things they hear (too centerd, not sharp enuf, DOF off) ugh... buncha robots I tell ya! I don't care for conventional thinking. Oh and I'm not speaking specifically about my image, just generally on from what I've seen from those in this thread.
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01/08/2008 12:58:09 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Question for the gang - many of the shots that don't do well in scoring tend to get decent comments afterwards, when people have more time to explore them. Do you think it's worth entering those kind of shots, or should there always be a "catch" to get a viewer's eye immediately? I know my own answer to this (my portfolio is FULL of shots that don't have a catch) but am curious what the rest of you think. |
Oddly enough, I went with a shot that I was sure would score better rather than the one I liked better. The entry:
The rejected entry:
[thumb]627090[/thumb]
I kinda wish now I would have entered the Faerie Glen shot.
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01/08/2008 12:35:49 PM · #19 |
| Hi having both power and connection problems today, thankyou for all the comments will mark them helpful tomorrow and try leave some more comments, I know my photos are inclined sometimes to be a bit out of focus but I am afraid iam of the ilk of if the bird, animal etc. eyes are sharp the rest doesn,t have to be , in fact i am afraid a picture where every thing is over sharp in perfect focus can be very boring. Sorry thats just me. |
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01/08/2008 12:33:25 PM · #20 |
Thanks for the comments everyone. Since Dubai really dominated my December, all my potential entries were locations specific. Here are my outtakes that I ended up deciding against:
Near-original version of my submission
Outtakes:
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01/08/2008 12:25:54 PM · #21 |
This is just a revamp for general consumption.....
[thumb]630431[/thumb]
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01/08/2008 12:03:32 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by scarbrd:
I understand the "wow" factor for success here. I've had some good finishes in challenges in the last year, but I am now trying to engage my photos on a more personal level, tell a story other than "wow" all the time. For sure I will still try for the highest score, but occasionally I am going to enter something a little less obvious and a little more thought provoking.
This was one of those times. |
Pleased to hear. And yes, your entry is the better of the three, in my opinion. I enjoy finding small treasures like that during challenges. To be honest, lately I've been simply skipping over the tried/true/very competent shots. I think I've been here too long. |
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01/08/2008 11:49:29 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Question for the gang - many of the shots that don't do well in scoring tend to get decent comments afterwards, when people have more time to explore them. Do you think it's worth entering those kind of shots, or should there always be a "catch" to get a viewer's eye immediately? I know my own answer to this (my portfolio is FULL of shots that don't have a catch) but am curious what the rest of you think. |
That's an interesting question, Deb. I feel it depends on what you're going for. If you want a good score, go for what's popular. Subtlety is never popular with 'the masses' - here or elsewhere. Ultimately, I think we would all like to have acknowledgment via a good score, but occasionally, I've been happy with a photo despite a lesser score. (This FS is not one of those cases)
In toto I would say, enter what's within your artistic integrity - always. |
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01/08/2008 11:49:12 AM · #24 |
ok so here's mine i've commented to here so far now its your turn--let me have it---lol |
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01/08/2008 11:28:26 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Question for the gang - many of the shots that don't do well in scoring tend to get decent comments afterwards, when people have more time to explore them. Do you think it's worth entering those kind of shots, or should there always be a "catch" to get a viewer's eye immediately? I know my own answer to this (my portfolio is FULL of shots that don't have a catch) but am curious what the rest of you think. |
I had two other images I am sure would have scored higher.
The old photojournalist in me knows my entry was the better shot,
The leading lines from the chairs to the subject, the tense pose of the younger person, the "been there, done that" demeaner of the father, the neatness of the room telling that this is certainly before the ceremony, all tell a story that I think is captured here if people took the time to look.
The problem is that all this is hard to see in the nanoseconds voters spend on each image in a 400+ entry challenge.
I understand the "wow" factor for success here. I've had some good finishes in challenges in the last year, but I am now trying to engage my photos on a more personal level, tell a story other than "wow" all the time. For sure I will still try for the highest score, but occasionally I am going to enter something a little less obvious and a little more thought provoking.
This was one of those times.
Message edited by author 2008-01-08 11:52:46. |
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