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10/19/2009 06:28:59 AM · #1
I routinely do a google search every couple of months to see if any copyright material has been stolen. On this occasion photographs turned up on two French websites. They had been taken from google earth by copying and pasting the links onto their web sites. I wrote to google and they said take it up with the people who are using the photos. When I e-mailed one of the web sites and they said it is perfectly legitimate and if you don’t like it take the photo down. The other web site displayed no e-mail address. Instead it had a contact webmaster button which attempted to give me a virus when pressed.
I am not sure if it is legitimate or not. If they had asked I would probably given permission. What I decided to do is change the titles of the photographs (six) to read THIS PHOTO IS STOLEN AND IS BEING USED WITHOUT THE OWNERS CONSENT. That is a polite printable version. Within twenty four hour s an e-mail arrived containing an apology and a whining explanation of how it was an information website rather than a commercial website. This website consisted solely of photographs lifted from google earth. Is that legitimate? Anyway I gave permission and changed the titles to include a link to my website. What else can you do?
08/17/2007 09:15:03 AM · #2
Originally posted by Node:

Originally posted by ajdelaware:

Originally posted by Cboydrun:


oh and.. I think we the photographers should be allowe to mark our pictures, Ie put our names in the corner. Thats all it takes to copyright an image gaurenteed, and makes it alot easy to persue legal action.


No way. There are too many jockers and softies on here. If they could see the person the photographer whose image they were voting on, it would definitely effect the results.


I don't mind the idea BUT it should happen after voting like the comentators paper bag thing...

I have no idea how hard this would be to set up maybe to hard but if possible have a AUTO Signature where you could add your name in the submit photo page, this would only be added to the photo automatically after the voting is completed and the results are calculated. This is also the time that submitted photo's go public.

Something to think about maybe.


I finally have an idea for the free study challenge. Thanks.
08/17/2007 08:49:21 AM · #3
Originally posted by ajdelaware:

Originally posted by Cboydrun:


oh and.. I think we the photographers should be allowe to mark our pictures, Ie put our names in the corner. Thats all it takes to copyright an image gaurenteed, and makes it alot easy to persue legal action.


No way. There are too many jockers and softies on here. If they could see the person the photographer whose image they were voting on, it would definitely effect the results.


I don't mind the idea BUT it should happen after voting like the comentators paper bag thing...

I have no idea how hard this would be to set up maybe to hard but if possible have a AUTO Signature where you could add your name in the submit photo page, this would only be added to the photo automatically after the voting is completed and the results are calculated. This is also the time that submitted photo's go public.

Something to think about maybe.
08/17/2007 08:46:20 AM · #4
Originally posted by Cboydrun:

oh and.. I think we the photographers should be allowe to mark our pictures, Ie put our names in the corner. Thats all it takes to copyright an image gaurenteed, and makes it alot easy to persue legal action.



No, all it takes to copyright an image is to click the shutter.

If you also register the images with the copyright office, it expands your legal options and remedies.

No copyright mark is necessary, however, it does make the "I didn't know it was copyrighted when I stole it" excuse sound even lamer in court than it already is.

Message edited by author 2007-08-17 08:46:57.
08/17/2007 08:40:12 AM · #5
Originally posted by Cboydrun:


oh and.. I think we the photographers should be allowe to mark our pictures, Ie put our names in the corner. Thats all it takes to copyright an image gaurenteed, and makes it alot easy to persue legal action.


No way. There are too many jockers and softies on here. If they could see the person the photographer whose image they were voting on, it would definitely effect the results.
08/16/2007 11:06:43 PM · #6
Originally posted by routerguy666:

They need to start a Stolen Photos forum section.


YES! I can put the whole section on "Ignore," right?
08/16/2007 10:35:41 PM · #7
Originally posted by Cboydrun:

Yeah if she's stealing the images, I don't know how accurate her story is..

oh and.. I think we the photographers should be allowe to mark our pictures, Ie put our names in the corner. Thats all it takes to copyright an image gaurenteed, and makes it alot easy to persue legal action.

Originally posted by kawesttex:

Once again it seems that the person is educated and should be aware of copyright!

My occupation is...
Author and inspirational speaker
I went to College at...
Indiana University at Indianapolis

Directly from her bio.


How would voting be anonymous with this?
08/16/2007 10:34:27 PM · #8
This one is from Larus.

I agree that she is showing what she likes, call it flattery maybe? I suspect that would be up to each photographer.
08/16/2007 10:06:18 PM · #9
Yeah if she's stealing the images, I don't know how accurate her story is..

oh and.. I think we the photographers should be allowe to mark our pictures, Ie put our names in the corner. Thats all it takes to copyright an image gaurenteed, and makes it alot easy to persue legal action.

Originally posted by kawesttex:

Once again it seems that the person is educated and should be aware of copyright!

My occupation is...
Author and inspirational speaker
I went to College at...
Indiana University at Indianapolis

Directly from her bio.


Message edited by author 2007-08-16 22:08:50.
08/16/2007 09:58:08 PM · #10
Originally posted by ShannonLee:

the title of her album is "My Favorites". i think she is simply showing people photos she has found that she considers great... not which photos she herself has taken. which could be misleading but i dont think she was trying to be malicious. am i wrong?


Regardless of her intent, she should ask for permission and respect the creator's wishes.

Since she's an author, do you think she'd appreciate me offering her books for free on my website?
08/16/2007 09:29:12 PM · #11
Originally posted by ShannonLee:

the title of her album is "My Favorites". i think she is simply showing people photos she has found that she considers great... not which photos she herself has taken. which could be misleading but i dont think she was trying to be malicious. am i wrong?


No, it appears that you are correct. However. . . rather than showing the world that pretty image, show them that talented photographer!
08/16/2007 09:21:54 PM · #12
Originally posted by ShannonLee:

the title of her album is "My Favorites". i think she is simply showing people photos she has found that she considers great... not which photos she herself has taken. am i wrong?


It's more than just photos too. There's a lot of just regular art work in there as well. I saw an image with a neat idea for expert editing in there.
08/16/2007 09:18:53 PM · #13
the title of her album is "My Favorites". i think she is simply showing people photos she has found that she considers great... not which photos she herself has taken. which could be misleading but i dont think she was trying to be malicious. am i wrong?

Message edited by author 2007-08-16 21:20:56.
08/16/2007 09:16:59 PM · #14


Originally posted by BeeCee:


But Webshots allows and even encourages downloads. The image I first noticed is for sale on DPC prints, which could be impacted.


how good of a print can you get from something that's 500x400 @ 72 dpi? anything above 2x3" is just going to look mediocre.

i just don't see the 'harm done' in this instance
08/16/2007 08:56:47 PM · #15
Originally posted by jdannels:

Originally posted by philup:

Originally posted by routerguy666:

They need to start a Stolen Photos forum section.


AGREE!!

put it in the DPC survey


Nah..I used...we need WATERMARKS!!!
08/16/2007 08:54:48 PM · #16
Originally posted by SbR06:

Originally posted by chimericvisions:

This is definitely one of the "big-f'ing-deal" scenarios, for me. Webshots, Flikr, etc... they're just for personal albums. Photos that the person collected that they appreciate.

They're not making money off it, or representing it as their own work.


i agree completely. as a designer, i save everything i like that's not bolted down. this appears just to be a personal album of photos that she enjoys looking at. this isn't beeing profited off of, or plagiarism on some other art site. it's just a collection of "pretty things"


But Webshots allows and even encourages downloads. The image I first noticed is for sale on DPC prints, which could be impacted.
08/16/2007 08:50:48 PM · #17
Originally posted by philup:

Originally posted by routerguy666:

They need to start a Stolen Photos forum section.


AGREE!!

put it in the DPC survey
08/16/2007 08:48:38 PM · #18
Originally posted by chimericvisions:

This is definitely one of the "big-f'ing-deal" scenarios, for me. Webshots, Flikr, etc... they're just for personal albums. Photos that the person collected that they appreciate.

They're not making money off it, or representing it as their own work.


i agree completely. as a designer, i save everything i like that's not bolted down. this appears just to be a personal album of photos that she enjoys looking at. this isn't beeing profited off of, or plagiarism on some other art site. it's just a collection of "pretty things"
08/16/2007 08:44:39 PM · #19
Originally posted by routerguy666:

They need to start a Stolen Photos forum section.


AGREE!!

08/16/2007 08:42:35 PM · #20
She has a bunch of lightning shots.Maybe some of them are by M.O.C.
08/16/2007 08:36:59 PM · #21
This is definitely one of the "big-f'ing-deal" scenarios, for me. Webshots, Flikr, etc... they're just for personal albums. Photos that the person collected that they appreciate.

They're not making money off it, or representing it as their own work.
08/16/2007 08:26:10 PM · #22
Once again it seems that the person is educated and should be aware of copyright!

My occupation is...
Author and inspirational speaker
I went to College at...
Indiana University at Indianapolis

Directly from her bio.

Message edited by author 2007-08-16 20:26:29.
08/16/2007 08:22:26 PM · #23
this one looks familiar, doesn't it?

//entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2031477900011506093abdWpQ
08/16/2007 08:01:00 PM · #24
wow they eve left the name as Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited

daft
08/16/2007 07:59:07 PM · #25
No kidding. She doesn't claim they're hers in this case, but says she found them on the web, but there is NO attempt to credit photographers.
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