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06/28/2007 07:16:44 PM · #1
Originally posted by fir3bird:

Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

I'm thinking of buying a new camera as i've started taking some weddings and senior portraits,


What's wrong with using what you've already got? The lens you have looks like an excellent choice. Maybe pick up a flash to go with the combo.


She started with the Coolpix and got the 350D and lens after taking advice (or so we hope :)) from this thread...

Message edited by author 2007-06-28 19:17:01.
06/28/2007 07:04:25 PM · #2
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

I'm thinking of buying a new camera as i've started taking some weddings and senior portraits,


What's wrong with using what you've already got? The lens you have looks like an excellent choice. Maybe pick up a flash to go with the combo.
06/28/2007 05:16:34 PM · #3
There are two problems with this.

1 - The D80 is out of her price range
2 - She already bought a 350D.
06/28/2007 05:08:01 PM · #4
Get a D80.
06/20/2007 02:53:07 AM · #5
I agree with Spaz.

06/19/2007 10:10:07 PM · #6
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

Originally posted by rex:

This post

Originally posted by rex:

$800-$900 is a tight budget.

Here is what I think

Keep the Nikon Coolpix 8700(as your backup)

Buy a Rebel XT which can be had with a 2GB card found here:
//www.digitalgrin.com/showthread.php?t=63592

for $425

No you are left with $475

Buy a 50mm 1.8 found at B&H for $79.95

Which then you have $395.95 left

Buy the Tamron for $369.00
Or you can find it used for cheaper and buy more CF cards.

This way you are left with $26 but with shipping of the stuff you should break even with a $900 budget. With a little patience and luck I think you can find all this stuff used at //www.dgrin.com or //www.fredmiranda.com and have money left over for an extra battery, and maybe an extra card or two.


the husband just shot me down to a lower budget that's why..lol


Are you starting a business or do you just want to play photographer?

If the former, you should be able to justify every expense and be able to finance it if necessary.

If the latter and you plan to shoot weddings, do everyone a favor and get some experience working for an established photographer before heading out under-prepared. Do you really want to be responsible for disappointing the newlyweds because you don't know what you're doing?

06/19/2007 08:34:13 PM · #7
28 isn't wide enough on a 1.6 crop camera. It's hardly wide at all, equal to 44mm on a full frame.
Now, at the risk of looking like some brand fanatic, I suggest you think outside the box and take a look at the Olympus E-510 2 lens kit.
2 lenses: 14-45 and 40-150 (28-90/80-300mm in 35mm terms), 10MP, anti-shake, 3.3fps and good image quality (as if any dslr today produces bad quality images...)
If your budget is tight, skip the 40-150, or you can even sacrifice the Image Stabilization and get the E-410.
Prices are from $800 - $1000, including 2 lenses.

06/19/2007 08:22:26 PM · #8
Here is what I will say.

This guy:

//www.digitalgrin.com/showthread.php?t=64148

is selling his XT with a kit lens. Someone has posted wanting him to sell them the battery grip. The grip and batteries should knock the price of the camera down to about $450. I think you offer this guy $450 for the camera with the kit lens and the 4GB card he will take it.

Now you have a camera with an ok lens for only $450. If your budget is too low buy the 50mm 1.8 for portraits. Turn away weddings and only do portrait work. Take the money from that and invest in a nice 2.8 lens and then start doing weddings. Maybe even start by being a second shooter.
06/19/2007 08:02:40 PM · #9
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

the husband just shot me down to a lower budget that's why..lol


What is your lower budget now?
06/19/2007 07:41:10 PM · #10
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:


so this is my final question and i'll stop bugging everyone
if you had to choose between Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8-4 DG Aspherical Large Aperture Zoom Lens for Canon SLR Cameras and 50mm 1.8 Canon which one would you choose


The Sigma... it's just a lot more versatile than a prime lens.

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 19:43:08.
06/19/2007 07:38:56 PM · #11
Originally posted by rex:

This post

Originally posted by rex:

$800-$900 is a tight budget.

Here is what I think

Keep the Nikon Coolpix 8700(as your backup)

Buy a Rebel XT which can be had with a 2GB card found here:
//www.digitalgrin.com/showthread.php?t=63592

for $425

No you are left with $475

Buy a 50mm 1.8 found at B&H for $79.95

Which then you have $395.95 left

Buy the Tamron for $369.00
Or you can find it used for cheaper and buy more CF cards.

This way you are left with $26 but with shipping of the stuff you should break even with a $900 budget. With a little patience and luck I think you can find all this stuff used at //www.dgrin.com or //www.fredmiranda.com and have money left over for an extra battery, and maybe an extra card or two.


the husband just shot me down to a lower budget that's why..lol
06/19/2007 07:35:45 PM · #12
This post

Originally posted by rex:

$800-$900 is a tight budget.

Here is what I think

Keep the Nikon Coolpix 8700(as your backup)

Buy a Rebel XT which can be had with a 2GB card found here:
//www.digitalgrin.com/showthread.php?t=63592

for $425

No you are left with $475

Buy a 50mm 1.8 found at B&H for $79.95

Which then you have $395.95 left

Buy the Tamron for $369.00
Or you can find it used for cheaper and buy more CF cards.

This way you are left with $26 but with shipping of the stuff you should break even with a $900 budget. With a little patience and luck I think you can find all this stuff used at //www.dgrin.com or //www.fredmiranda.com and have money left over for an extra battery, and maybe an extra card or two.
06/19/2007 07:34:34 PM · #13
they both will be good for portraits. Can you buy both?

Can you not go by my original post?

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 19:35:26.
06/19/2007 07:09:52 PM · #14
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

i was just looking at this one


It's a little long and a little slow to be your primary lens for weddings. I can't tell you one time I wished I had a long lens for shooting weddings, although there have been many times I've wanted wider.


so this is my final question and i'll stop bugging everyone
if you had to choose between Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8-4 DG Aspherical Large Aperture Zoom Lens for Canon SLR Cameras and 50mm 1.8 Canon which one would you choose


okay i lied one more question and i PROMISE NO MORE :)
whichever i chose is good for portraits too?
06/19/2007 07:01:41 PM · #15
I don't shoot weddings, but if I could only choose between those two lenses and I was going to be in a situation where you can not be missing shots, I would think the zoom would have to be the way to go. Unless you are damn quick on your feet.
06/19/2007 06:58:15 PM · #16
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

i was just looking at this one


It's a little long and a little slow to be your primary lens for weddings. I can't tell you one time I wished I had a long lens for shooting weddings, although there have been many times I've wanted wider.


so this is my final question and i'll stop bugging everyone
if you had to choose between Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8-4 DG Aspherical Large Aperture Zoom Lens for Canon SLR Cameras and 50mm 1.8 Canon which one would you choose
06/19/2007 06:51:36 PM · #17
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

i was just looking at this one


It's a little long and a little slow to be your primary lens for weddings. I can't tell you one time I wished I had a long lens for shooting weddings, although there have been many times I've wanted wider.
06/19/2007 06:47:07 PM · #18
i was just looking at this one

//www.amazon.com/Sigma-55-200mm-Telephoto-Digital-Cameras/dp/B0001VQ12Y/ref=sr_1_24/002-9495412-5132040?ie=UTF8&s=photo&qid=1182293029&sr=1-24
06/19/2007 06:42:06 PM · #19
If you need to save a bit of money, this is not a bad performing lens at all. Other than being a tad soft on the wide end, I'm quite happy with mine...and yes, I shoot weddings with it.

Sigma 28-70mm f/2.8-4.0 Aspherical DG for Canon

$129 at B&H

A good lens choice from Sigma is also the 28-70 f/28.8 EX DG EX is Sigma's Pro Line. This lens is $329

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 18:47:55.
06/19/2007 06:38:25 PM · #20
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

is this then lens you were talking about
Tamron 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical Lens & 75-300mm f/4-5.6 LD Lens


Nope... here it is Tamron 28-75 f/2.8


is there a lens that is inbetween this one and 50mm 1.8 Canon that is better than 50mm 1.8 Canon but not as expensive as the tamron that is another good one to get?


Canon EF 50mm f/2.5 Macro.......
a versatile lens also sharper than either mentioned.
06/19/2007 06:31:17 PM · #21
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

is this then lens you were talking about
Tamron 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical Lens & 75-300mm f/4-5.6 LD Lens


Nope... here it is Tamron 28-75 f/2.8


is there a lens that is inbetween this one and 50mm 1.8 Canon that is better than 50mm 1.8 Canon but not as expensive as the tamron that is another good one to get?
06/19/2007 06:18:12 PM · #22
I vote for Pentax K100D best value.
06/19/2007 06:00:11 PM · #23
Check out DPReview.com for both cameras, the K100D is a Highly recommended 6 megapixel camera that outshine many other brands with 8 megapixels. Quoted from Formerlee in another thread

I did do a lot of research on the entry level DSLR's when I bought my K100D. From everything I read the K100D is one of the best entry level DSLR's for the money. I was sold because of the shake reduction feature (Especially good in low light) and the availability of great, older lenses. I have picked up a 28mm 2.8 and a 50mm 1.4 for less than 20 dollars each (With shipping). I am very, very happy with my purchase so far. One thing to remember though, especially if you are planning on taking this to the professional level is that you are buying into a system. Your camera will likely last you a few years, but your lenses can last you the better part of a lifetime. Canon and Nikon have more options available, especially at the higher levels.

That being said though, there are many professionals that love their K10D as well, and hopefully Pentax will continue to produce quality photography equipment. If they do, I will be with them for a while. The body of the camera (Although it does not seem it now) is not the biggest part of this investment(At least in the long run), the lenses are. Do not worry too much over your purchase though, as long as you take good care of your equipment it will retain it's value fairly well. If after a few years you are not happy with your choice you can always sell your equipment and jump ship to another system without taking a huge hit.

Oh yeah, and like the last person said, unless you live in a big market area do not expect to be able to find Pentax equipment easily in the local stores. With todays online shopping it is not too inconvenient to shop on the internet but sometimes you want to be able to run to the store and pick something up.

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 18:05:30.
06/19/2007 05:58:12 PM · #24
Originally posted by formerlee:

Why not take a look at the Pentax K10D and K100D. Well known brand, good range of lenses and accessories. Also good prices.


I don't know about your local shop, but mine only rents Nikon and Canon gear. That may be an issue, especially for someone who's just starting out, and isn't working enough to justify owning some of the higher end lenses.

edit: can't type.

Message edited by author 2007-06-19 17:58:40.
06/19/2007 05:33:05 PM · #25
Originally posted by Nowaytotell:

is this then lens you were talking about
Tamron 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical Lens & 75-300mm f/4-5.6 LD Lens


Nope... here it is Tamron 28-75 f/2.8


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