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01/26/2007 09:35:26 PM · #1 |
Originally posted by Cantique:
Originally posted by Ristyz:
I just went and read many many photography "how to" websites under the subject "fill the frame" every single one of them said to fill the frame with the majority of your subject. Get nice and close. Not a single one said that it had to be 100% filled with one item.
now back to the previously scheduled conversation..... about pots and karz and the like |
Thanks for this. I was beginning to wonder. Also what exactly is the subject? (I think somebody already spoke about this.) I was quite sure my subject filled the frame and I got one of the dreaded DNMC comments causing me to wonder. I can't describe my pic here as the challenge is in progress but it would be interesting to have this discussion after it is over with concrete examples... what the heck does it mean anyhow?
Ann |
Yeah, 'what the heck' is right. IMO, if your shot would garner comments like 'cropped too tight' or 'needs more negative space' in a regular challenge - then you probably have succeeded in filling the gol dern frame. Pfft. |
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01/26/2007 08:49:14 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by Sunshine86:
 This is TIHadi's entry to the Black and white portrait challenge.... |
If it's any consolation, I think you filled the frame very nicely in this. |
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01/26/2007 08:26:46 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by Ristyz:
I just went and read many many photography "how to" websites under the subject "fill the frame" every single one of them said to fill the frame with the majority of your subject. Get nice and close. Not a single one said that it had to be 100% filled with one item.
now back to the previously scheduled conversation..... about pots and karz and the like |
Thanks for this. I was beginning to wonder. Also what exactly is the subject? (I think somebody already spoke about this.) I was quite sure my subject filled the frame and I got one of the dreaded DNMC comments causing me to wonder. I can't describe my pic here as the challenge is in progress but it would be interesting to have this discussion after it is over with concrete examples... what the heck does it mean anyhow?
Ann
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01/26/2007 05:12:28 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by MPRPRO:
Originally posted by TIHadi:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
[quote=TIHadi] [quote=Sunshine86]
Here is your answer...
This is TIHadi's entry to the Black and white portrait challenge.... Hmmmmmm.... see anything wrong? This is getting better and better :) :) :) |
Not at all . It is not ok for me or for anyone to play with the rules.
The photo shown above was taken in B/W and I chose to give it this tinting and U believe it remains B/W , some others share the same opinion with me and some others do not.
When I got the DNMC I accepted and respected their ruling, not agreeing to it at the same time.
But kept quit... IT IS THEIR OPINION
I am not trying to force anything on anyone.
I hope I am understood.
Thanks |
If it was your opinion that the image stated was black and white, you would be wrong it is red. A color is not an opinion it is a fact. Thus your complete explanation for your red black and white entry would mean your image DNMC. How can a color or a lack of color be an opinion?
No you are not understood. Not in a sense that you are making any sense. I understand you have a superior attitude and that's just fine, hopefully someday you will have something happen that humbles you a bit and you will come to know what a foolish thread you created here.
Thank you. |
If that is the way you feel, fine. You should not have posted here if you think it is foolish. Just dump it and do not address it, you have that right too.
Thanks any way.
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01/26/2007 04:56:15 PM · #5 |
hmmm... too bad this amount of emotions have to be vented over an issue of this magnitude. If a voter thinks a photo DNMC it is his or her right to comment that way and more importantly vote accordingly. To avoid DNMC's just stay as near the description as you can.
Someone in this thread mentioned there disappointment when they recieved a dnmc comment that didn't included any constructive criticism. On one of my first entries, I got a fair amount of DNMC's and although no one left a reason why they thought it was a DNMC I have realized my mistake and decided in order to recieve a good score and no DNMC's you should stay as close as you can to the despription. If you stray any from the description you are risking recieving dnmc comments.
Each voter can vote to his own opinion, and understanding of the challenge rules. Although this is my opinion on this issue, I am not against anyone else's opinion as it is his or her own right to discuss it. My wish is just that it would be a healthy discussion and not a name-calling vent! |
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01/26/2007 04:31:17 PM · #6 |
After having read this very entertaining thread, I'm very appreciative that I UNSUBMITTED my entry for this challenge!!! YIKES!!
Carry on...
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01/26/2007 04:30:08 PM · #7 |
I think the issue is probably what the viewer feels is the subject of the image. If that perceived subject does not fill the frame then DNMC.
Just a thought. ;o)
Message edited by author 2007-01-26 16:30:17. |
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01/26/2007 04:07:32 PM · #8 |
In the words of comic book guy "worst score ever".
There is always next challenge. |
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01/26/2007 04:05:24 PM · #9 |
Mine is getting hammered, as well.
Gravely disappointed, as I jumped out of my comfort zone and tried some advanced editing...I also filled the dang frame! Ugggg, will I EVER understand DPC voters? *sulking* |
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01/26/2007 03:56:41 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by goc:
reading all this makes my 4.3 excellent score :-), and what's more important is that i love the photo (heavy edited) very very very much !!!
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Mine is getting hammered but one particular comment from one Bear_Music made the shot worth submitting.
Edit to add: he's the only one that made a guess at my intent and he got it right.
Message edited by author 2007-01-26 16:14:23.
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01/26/2007 03:55:32 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by formerlee:
It is amazing how everyone gets drawn into this type of thread. It was stated further back that the OP was showing bad site etiquette by posting this thread.
Why pamper to it. Let it die quietly, as it deserves. |
Nod.
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01/26/2007 03:54:55 PM · #12 |
It is amazing how everyone gets drawn into this type of thread. It was stated further back that the OP was showing bad site etiquette by posting this thread.
Why pamper to it. Let it die quietly, as it deserves. |
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01/26/2007 03:51:40 PM · #13 |
reading all this makes my 4.3 excellent score :-), and what's more important is that i love the photo (heavy edited) very very very much !!!
peace
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01/26/2007 03:28:42 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by TIHadi:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
[quote=TIHadi] [quote=Sunshine86]
Here is your answer...
This is TIHadi's entry to the Black and white portrait challenge.... Hmmmmmm.... see anything wrong? This is getting better and better :) :) :) |
Not at all . It is not ok for me or for anyone to play with the rules.
The photo shown above was taken in B/W and I chose to give it this tinting and U believe it remains B/W , some others share the same opinion with me and some others do not.
When I got the DNMC I accepted and respected their ruling, not agreeing to it at the same time.
But kept quit... IT IS THEIR OPINION
I am not trying to force anything on anyone.
I hope I am understood.
Thanks |
If it was your opinion that the image stated was black and white, you would be wrong it is red. A color is not an opinion it is a fact. Thus your complete explanation for your red black and white entry would mean your image DNMC. How can a color or a lack of color be an opinion?
No you are not understood. Not in a sense that you are making any sense. I understand you have a superior attitude and that's just fine, hopefully someday you will have something happen that humbles you a bit and you will come to know what a foolish thread you created here.
Thank you.
Message edited by author 2007-01-26 15:30:13.
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01/26/2007 12:25:25 PM · #15 |
Allow me to help Nobody out. The same Nobody who didn't put in the smilie...
Originally posted by Nobody:
Originally posted by lionelm:
Well, if THAT poster could at least give one to absolutly everybody, and avoids comments, then that would be good. It would have the same impact on everybody and then nobody would be upset.
His comment on my picture contains assumptions that I do not appreciate AT ALL, and regarding on what they relate tp is really BAD.
Lionel |
Sorry - I am not going to get upset over this. |
Yes, nobody is not going to get upset over this.
And, since 2 negatives make a positive, we really ought to be careful in case nobody loses it!
;-} |
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01/26/2007 12:22:01 PM · #16 |
which 4 letters ?
I am not trying to get anybody upset here :D
Was just venting :D
Lionel |
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01/26/2007 12:16:14 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Nobody:
Sorry - I am not going to get upset over this. |
I agree... getting one's blood pressure up over four letters is futile at best.
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01/26/2007 12:12:35 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by lionelm:
Well, if THAT poster could at least give one to absolutly everybody, and avoids comments, then that would be good. It would have the same impact on everybody and then nobody would be upset.
His comment on my picture contains assumptions that I do not appreciate AT ALL, and regarding on what they relate tp is really BAD.
Lionel |
Sorry - I am not going to get upset over this. |
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01/26/2007 11:35:22 AM · #19 |
Well, if THAT poster could at least give one to absolutly everybody, and avoids comments, then that would be good. It would have the same impact on everybody and then nobody would be upset.
His comment on my picture contains assumptions that I do not appreciate AT ALL, and regarding on what they relate tp is really BAD.
Lionel |
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01/26/2007 11:35:14 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by Rae-Ann:
[quote=Melethia]
And btw...scores aside..you are always appreciated! |
Thanks, my dear! I always keep scores on the side. Usually off, too. SO much easier to deal with challenges that way. I did peek, which is how I know about the sub sub 5, but hey, I'm gonna print this one, so there, dear voters! :-) |
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01/26/2007 11:26:25 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by dknourek:
"DNMC leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to suffering."
I think its time for a GROUP HUG :)
clothing optional :P |
Well we do have a nude challenge going on!! lol |
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01/26/2007 10:51:38 AM · #22 |
"DNMC leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to suffering."
I think its time for a GROUP HUG :)
clothing optional :P
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01/26/2007 10:34:11 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
I feel so unappreciated. I have no comments at all - not even a DNMC. I do have a very lovely score well below 5, however. :-) |
Dont feel bad Deb...
I went from an 8 to a 5 overnight...2 comments, both saying they gave high marks..
GO figure
And btw...scores aside..you are always appreciated!
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01/26/2007 10:17:11 AM · #24 |
I feel so unappreciated. I have no comments at all - not even a DNMC. I do have a very lovely score well below 5, however. :-)
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01/26/2007 10:10:35 AM · #25 |
I have already received that dreaded DNMC comment. I understand fully that my entry DNMC however, if I had a problem with that I would not have entered it. If you feel that it is DNMC, comment so but leave criticism as how well or bad you believe the photo to be.
However photography is art. Art is left to veiwer/artist interpretation. Therefore, if someone feels that Fill the Frame is taking a picture of a picture frame, then that is their interpretation. When i vote I dont depend too much on the challenge title. I vote on how I well I think the photo is.
Just my take on it all. |
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