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09/13/2008 09:39:25 AM · #1 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by trevytrev:
Didn't see it in here but what about the new Camera profiles feature in lightroom? Can we change the camera color profile on our raw images? |
We can't use RAW images in Minimal Editing.
R. |
Thanks Bear, I knew I was missing something..other than a fully functioning brain this morning. |
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09/13/2008 09:35:07 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by trevytrev:
Didn't see it in here but what about the new Camera profiles feature in lightroom? Can we change the camera color profile on our raw images? |
We can't use RAW images in Minimal Editing.
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09/13/2008 09:33:45 AM · #3 |
| Didn't see it in here but what about the new Camera profiles feature in lightroom? Can we change the camera color profile on our raw images? |
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09/13/2008 09:28:00 AM · #4 |
| we can use the picture style of course.... |
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09/13/2008 08:45:00 AM · #5 |
Nevermind hahhahaahah
Message edited by author 2008-09-13 08:46:13.
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09/13/2008 01:00:03 AM · #6 |
Since the Minimal ruleset was first announced, we've seen an increase in the post-processing features available in-camera. For example, some cameras can now apply filters/effects after the actual capture. These new features available on some cameras introduced a contradiction within the Minimal ruleset as written -- because they said that you could use any feature of your camera except multiple exposures.
The preamble to ruleset has been amended to better reflect the spirit of the ruleset: "Restrictions on post-processing apply to ALL edits performed after the image is captured, whether on a computer or with in-camera tools."
Please note: pre-capture settings on whatever camera you have are still fair game.
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03/29/2007 11:58:55 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by geneward2:
can anyone explain to me whether I can simply download photos automatically from my Rebel XT onto my computer without violating these new rules? Thanks. |
If you set your camera to take JPG instead of raw then yes. How do you do that? I dunno. (I have a Nikon). |
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03/29/2007 11:51:50 PM · #8 |
| can anyone explain to me whether I can simply download photos automatically from my Rebel XT onto my computer without violating these new rules? Thanks. |
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02/20/2007 07:46:05 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Coley:
Please help ... I am way too lazy to read this whole thread.
Can i use 'Gradient Map' to desaturate my image under the rule set for minimal editing.
Thanks in advance :) |
no |
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02/20/2007 07:42:25 PM · #10 |
Please help ... I am way too lazy to read this whole thread.
Can i use 'Gradient Map' to desaturate my image under the rule set for minimal editing.
Thanks in advance :) |
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02/20/2007 11:48:58 AM · #11 |
More questions concerning minimal editing software usage.......
Open or Convert to Profile
Since convert to gray scale is allowed, and I am assuming that one could in photoshop access this legal function via: Edit>Convert to Profile>Destination Space....... Is this allowed? yes or no?
Some cameras which may allow one to shoot jpeg in various cc is obviously is allowed. Various software open in various cc or have options to choose a cc. Is it allowed to open or use a working colour profile other than sRGB IEC61966-2.1? yes or no?
Photoshop in Convert to Profile>Conversion Options has default settings including Engine and Intent, which manipulate output in various ways. What if any are the rules concerning these settings?
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02/20/2007 11:38:34 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by idnic:
I remember the funny stuff! ;) |
Well, we did tease him about it for 3 days straight... you should remember :-P |
Ahhhhh, good times, good times!
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02/20/2007 11:37:54 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by idnic:
I remember the funny stuff! ;) |
Well, we did tease him about it for 3 days straight... you should remember :-P
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02/20/2007 11:36:24 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by karmat:
going from memory here, but I think it was sharpening twice that got scalvert dq'ed the last time.
will look when I get a bit of time later, if no one else has clarified it. |
It was resizing twice that got Shannon DQd - sharpening multiple times is allowable, but you can only resize one. I remember the funny stuff! ;)
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02/20/2007 11:28:32 AM · #15 |
I recall that it was resizing twice that got him DQ'd.
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02/20/2007 11:23:29 AM · #16 |
going from memory here, but I think it was sharpening twice that got scalvert dq'ed the last time.
will look when I get a bit of time later, if no one else has clarified it. |
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02/20/2007 11:11:44 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by levyj413:
could someone from the SC please clarify whether you can sharpen more than once? Scalvert said something indicating no, but the rules don't say anything about it. |
Good point. That was in the behind-the-scenes discussions, but it doesn't look like it made it into the rules, so more than once should be fine. |
Thanks super dave...... I also found this within the thread |
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02/20/2007 11:09:03 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by undieyatch:
During editing, how many times can a person hit the sharpen button? |
if you mean CS2's built in sharpening tool ... as many as you want i guess.
if it's a programed unsharpen mask or high pass sharpen, then you can't use it at all.
i submitted my tree photo straight out of the box ... zero edit ... damn it was hard. i soooooo wanted to edit it! :)
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02/20/2007 11:06:01 AM · #19 |
| During editing, how many times can a person hit the sharpen button? |
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02/18/2007 12:45:52 PM · #20 |
I think this is a great addition. IMO if you have expert editing you should have the opposite minimal editing too. Thank you.
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02/17/2007 07:15:44 PM · #21 |
| I support this one hundred percent, I like photoshop, but using it when it is not necessary defiles the image and encourages photographers to take bad photographs. |
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02/17/2007 06:43:45 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Wondering if the border restriction could be reconsidered as the rules are tweaked. It has no effect on the editing of the photo and is merely an element of presentation. |
no way. presentation is all that a photo is or does.
ok, I'd better stop now. me arguing against you will probably only further your cause. |
That's about the lamest argument I've ever heard, but I'm all for the second half of it. |
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02/17/2007 05:57:40 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by flavioalima:
I just think it's good to have a rule set under which we can compete with less editing. |
I consider myself to be an above average PSer (pretty darn good at it really) but I do like the min editing rule set myself.
The reason I like it the most is that it helps to teach good camera skills. PS goes a long way, but it's always helpful to start out with the best image possible. The Minimum Editing rule set is one of the most valuable rules sets this site has, IMO.
PS is a valuable tool. But a good photo always starts in the camera.
Just to make an example. This would fall under Expert editing rules, but had I not had the ability to understand consistency in exposure, PSing this together would have been much harder (if not impossible).
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02/17/2007 05:34:58 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
In general, I have found the biggest detractors of it have the highest level of ignorance about it.
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The people who are *really* good at it will use it and you will *NOT* be able to tell. So much for the purity aspect.
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Don't get me wrong. I'm not a detractor of Photoshop, nor a purist. I do edit my pictures, with the Gimp (well, I'm learning...). I just think it's good to have a rule set under which we can compete with less editing.
Don't get angry :-) |
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02/17/2007 05:34:11 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by Elvis_L:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
If I were to tweak these rules (which I don't think are bad), I would allow cropping. It seems a bit overly restrictive to not allow such a basic tool. Not having cropping also precludes any aspect ratio outside your sensor. No square, no 1.25:1, no anything.
Just my opinion. |
I would agree with this but it must be in a normal format.
BTW is it ok to ,when resizing my entry for web, make it a square format. so i go to the resize screen and uncheck the box to constrain and make it 640x640? |
Wouldn't that horrendously distort your photo? Either way, right now I highly doubt that's legal. |
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