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08/05/2006 11:52:47 AM · #1 |
Just because someone was wondering about what SC uses to persoanlly edit -- we are amazingly well versed in several different versions. I use (though I obviously don't use them very well) PSP7, Elements, and have used the GIMP in the past, as well as some others.
What can help tremendously, to add to what heather said, is that in your photographer's comments, mention what you used. "In PSP, I . . ." Then, those of us with that particular software, will try to take a stab at it.
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08/05/2006 10:22:46 AM · #2 |
| Never heard the final verdict, but just added as a fav. |
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08/01/2006 11:58:00 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by Pano:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by btuck:
I'm hoping the SC can reproduce my image with the steps I've given them and all will be forgotten. |
If at all possible, we will. We hate DQing. |
I personally think you guys sit together in a dark room wearing pointy hats and plot aimed DQ weeks in advanced. once you have DQ a photo you all do the evil laugh: uuaahhhha HA HA HA !!
:) |
Except that a couple of us have a red pom-pon on our hats.
:) |
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08/01/2006 11:57:17 AM · #4 |
About being qualified in different editing software - I have used Paint Shop Pro since version 7. I just got (won) a copy of PSPX, installed it over the weekend. I am very good in PSP. PSPX is not that different than the earlier versions.
I also have PhotoShop CS, but I'm not as versed in PS. I use it, especially as a translator (because so many tutorials, books, threads and so on are written for PS) and to do some things that I find easier to do in PS than in PSP (in particular, working with masks).
I don't think anyone needs to feel that their photo will be disqualified if they're not using PhotoShop here. Otherwise, pretty much all of my entries would be disqualified, and they aren't.
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08/01/2006 07:26:59 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by btuck:
I'm hoping the SC can reproduce my image with the steps I've given them and all will be forgotten. |
If at all possible, we will. We hate DQing. |
I personally think you guys sit together in a dark room wearing pointy hats and plot aimed DQ weeks in advanced. once you have DQ a photo you all do the evil laugh: uuaahhhha HA HA HA !!
:)
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08/01/2006 07:01:31 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by coolhar:
regardless of which editing program the entering photog has used |
Before anyone try to say that isn't possible; I think having the few popular ones would suffice - a few besides Adobe's Photoshop |
We do have folks on SC who speak several editing languages (PaintShopPro, Photoshop, and GIMP). :) The problem is when SC does not get a set of editing steps that make sense. It's the job of the PHOTOGRAPHER to provide correct editing steps to SC.
SC will work at figuring out how the shot was edited, but if they don't have the steps it's much harder. With the number of different plugins out there its next to impossible to stay on top of every possible editing step. :)
I'm glad to see that btuck was able to find his editing steps. That should solve the issue. :) |
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08/01/2006 03:33:11 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by btuck:
OK I just recreated it. Those of you with Corel Paint Shop Pro X can validate doing the same if you wish:
Open _MG_0826.JPG with Corel Pait Shop Pro X
Resize to 50%
Adjust/One Step Noise Removal
Brightness/Contrast/Clarify (set at 5.0) [I can't recall what number I originally used here]
Color/Fade Correction (set at 16) [I can't recall if I even used this originally, but I usually do so I'll apply here as well]
Hue & Saturation - Hue/Saturation/Lightness..
- Reds - Hue 9, Saturation 8, Lightness 0
- Yellows - Hue 15, Saturation -6, Lightness 13
- Greens - Hue 0, Saturation -21, Lightness 0
- Cyans - Hue 0, Saturation -13, Lightness 0
- Blues - Hue 0, Saturation -13, Lightness 0
- Magentas - Hue 0, Saturation 0, Lightness 0
Brightness/Contrast/Clarify (set at 3.0) [I can't recall what number I originally used here]
Curves - Channel RGB, Input 0, Output 0. I made a slight downward bend in the bottom left had square of the graph. [forgot I even used curves - my apologies]
Resize to 640 x 427 pixels
Adjust, Sharpness, Sharpen
File, Save As _MG_0826b.JPG
View my result here: //www.hardbread.com/_MG_0826b.jpg
(Not exact but pretty close)
Brian |
And if we had gotten steps like this to begin with, we might not be having this discussion now. I'd just like to toss out a reminder here to EVERYONE...
For the love of everything that is good...please be as specific as possible in your editing steps when asked for them!
If you desaturated, tell us HOW you desaturated it. If you cloned...tell us WHAT you cloned.
That's all. Thanks.
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08/01/2006 01:19:50 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
regardless of which editing program the entering photog has used |
Before anyone try to say that isn't possible; I think having the few popular ones would suffice - a few besides Adobe's Photoshop |
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08/01/2006 12:39:23 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by coolhar:
Are people who only have knowledge and expertise in one photo editing program qualified to serve on SC? |
While I think SC's qualification is not really a point here,
I think it would be important that there should be someone trust-able that can be consulted to help with validation of editing steps (post processing) especially, regardless of which editing program the entering photog has used since that is one of the main reason that would result in disqualification of entries, and this site being digital and post-editing being a huge factor - that makes it even more important. |
I'd like to agree with what you said crayon, but I added the words in bold to it. Can you go along with them?
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08/01/2006 12:34:51 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
Are people who only have knowledge and expertise in one photo editing program qualified to serve on SC? |
While I think SC's qualification is not really a point here,
I think it would be important that there should be someone trust-able that can be consulted to help with validation of editing steps (post processing) especially, since that is one of the main reason that would result in disqualification of entries, and this site being digital and post-editing being a huge factor - that makes it even more important. |
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08/01/2006 12:30:58 AM · #11 |
Are people who only have knowledge and expertise in one photo editing program qualified to serve on SC?
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08/01/2006 12:02:51 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by btuck:
I'm hoping the SC can reproduce my image with the steps I've given them and all will be forgotten. |
If at all possible, we will. We hate DQing. |
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07/31/2006 11:55:36 PM · #13 |
| This exact reason is way I never use PSP X on this site. Sadly its kinda a red headed step child in instances such as this. I remeber freaking out about my tribute entry getting DQ even though it was advanced challenge I used PSP X. Ended up Ok, I could have made it totally acceptible even in Basic. I switched to PS right after that, I don't need that kinda wonder or worry. |
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07/31/2006 11:49:13 PM · #14 |
I tried for a while in PS and couldn't get it.
Good luck, Brian. |
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07/31/2006 11:42:36 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by MQuinn:
btuck, you have alot more patence than I. If it was my image in question and I followed the rules to the T and got DQ... Im outta here man, thats the final straw, I was convicted without a crime. I hate cheaters, and would never cheat. But if I was convicted like you were without cheating... Im done with it Man.... Fairness works both ways... |
I have to be honest, there is a little bit of anger/confusion about me on the matter, but the truth is DPChallenge is the best hobby I have right now. I'd be lost without it. I'm hoping the SC can reproduce my image with the steps I've given them and all will be forgotten. |
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07/31/2006 11:36:24 PM · #16 |
| btuck, you have alot more patence than I. If it was my image in question and I followed the rules to the T and got DQ... Im outta here man, thats the final straw, I was convicted without a crime. I hate cheaters, and would never cheat. But if I was convicted like you were without cheating... Im done with it Man.... Fairness works both ways... |
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07/31/2006 11:33:57 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by btuck:
Oh My! Anyone else get my results??
OK Ursula, just tell me what you need from me. About to hit the hay shortly and won't have access to my file until about 6PM EST.
Thanks,
Brian |
Tomorrow, if it's OK with you. I'm just beat tonight, and I have to quit. |
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07/31/2006 11:33:00 PM · #18 |
Oh My! Anyone else get my results??
OK Ursula, just tell me what you need from me. About to hit the hay shortly and won't have access to my file until about 6PM EST.
Thanks,
Brian |
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07/31/2006 11:32:48 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by ursula:
Following your steps exactly in PSPX, I still can't get the same results as your challenge entry. I think we should keep this discussion private though, and work it out using the validation/ticket system. |
lets hire Art Roflmao as a part-time council for "advanced" post-editing cases - we all know what he can do with his editing! :p |
Yeah, he could fix this in no time :)
I'm so glad Brian is patient and didn't "go ballistic" over the disqualification. |
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07/31/2006 11:30:44 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by ursula:
Following your steps exactly in PSPX, I still can't get the same results as your challenge entry. I think we should keep this discussion private though, and work it out using the validation/ticket system. |
lets hire Art Roflmao as a part-time council for "advanced" post-editing cases - we all know what he can do with his editing! :p |
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07/31/2006 11:29:50 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by cloudsme:
Looks like it was un dq'd. Congrats...was one of my favorites in the challenge. |
Thanks. It is un-DQ'd pending further review, which is all I really hoped to accomplish here. If nothing else I needed some clarification for further challenges. I appreciate all the work and concern you guys and the members of the SC have done for me on this matter tonight - regardless of the outcome.
Brian
At least I got a lot of Profile views tonight! :) |
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07/31/2006 11:29:19 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by ursula:
Following your steps exactly in PSPX, I still can't get the same results as your challenge entry. I think we should keep this discussion private though, and work it out using the validation/ticket system. |
Thank you ursula! |
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07/31/2006 11:28:36 PM · #23 |
Following your steps exactly in PSPX, I still can't get the same results as your challenge entry. I think we should keep this discussion private though, and work it out using the validation/ticket system.
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07/31/2006 11:28:08 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by cloudsme:
Looks like it was un dq'd. |
Believe me it still has to go through a step or two... |
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07/31/2006 11:26:38 PM · #25 |
| Looks like it was un dq'd. Congrats...was one of my favorites in the challenge. |
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