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07/31/2003 01:59:21 AM · #1 |
| have gone through almost half of the garden shots, just wanted to say that i've seen some pretty amazing close ups. especially of butterflies. wow. i don't know how you people do it. :o) |
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07/30/2003 03:30:30 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by spiller:
Personally I don't care how many bugs, flowers, cats, dogs, or what have you there are, it's the quality of the shot that counts. If there are a 100 terrific bug shots then that's OK. |
Part of what I look at when I vote, though, is how interesting an interpretation of the topic is. If I see 50 bug pictures, then, yes, they're not going to get quite as high of a score on average as something I only saw 5 of, all other things being equal.
But 'all other things being equal' takes into account a lot of things. A picture that is on-topic and that doesn't leave me entirely cold will probably make it into the 4-7 range, which itself is still some wiggle room, and even the most common topic in a challenge might still somehow have something I think is special and break into the 8-10 range for me. It really depends. It's just that a particularly common photo subject and setting would have to work a little harder at composition and technical impact to get there for me. |
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07/30/2003 01:28:57 PM · #3 |
| that's ok, as long as it isn't spiders....I have a severe case of arachnophpbia. |
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07/30/2003 01:22:27 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by EddyG:
Originally posted by spiller:
Personally I don't care how many bugs, flowers, cats, dogs, or what have you there are, it's the quality of the shot that counts. |
Why do we even have challenge topics if people don't take into account how well the photo fits the challenge when voting?
Based on comments like the above, it sounds to me like somebody could take a great picture of a motorcycle and if it was a high-quality shot with great "wow factor", it could do well "In The Garden"... |
I also feel that fitting the challenge is important. All I'm saying is that if a bug fits the challenge and there happens to be 100 shots of them, whats to complain about if they all have a wow factor.
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07/30/2003 12:58:36 PM · #5 |
when you log in, there should be an area on the left hand side that has the current votes on your entry, as well as the average score and any comments.
Originally posted by ceovishy:
How do i view my score while voting is still on? can someone help? |
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07/30/2003 12:51:23 PM · #6 |
Like my round pic :) I'm not creative, maybe ? :)
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07/30/2003 12:44:19 PM · #7 |
I thought my liquid pic met the challenge! hehehe
voters sure didnt ;) |
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07/30/2003 12:44:13 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by e301:
Take a look at the last placed photo in the 'liquid' challenge - there's your proof that voters in general take highly into account the meeting of the challenge. |
Did you look at the voting breakdown? 41 people actually rated it 4 or higher! Another 41 rated it a 3, 45 rated it a 2. That's 127 people. A lot more than the 81 who rated it a 1... yes, it finished last, but the fact that there are people out there who gave it a 3, 4, 5 or 6 can't possibly be taking into account the challenge topic when voting.
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07/30/2003 12:42:00 PM · #9 |
Sorry magnetic9999 and all i'm stupid :). Just I was embittered.
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07/30/2003 12:39:05 PM · #10 |
| How do i view my score while voting is still on? can someone help? |
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07/30/2003 12:38:24 PM · #11 |
Take a look at the last placed photo in the 'liquid' challenge - there's your proof that voters in general take highly into account the meeting of the challenge.
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07/30/2003 12:37:42 PM · #12 |
woops, no wonder im getting a bad score.
i read the challenge as 'in the garter'
~_~
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07/30/2003 12:34:52 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by spiller:
Personally I don't care how many bugs, flowers, cats, dogs, or what have you there are, it's the quality of the shot that counts. |
Why do we even have challenge topics if people don't take into account how well the photo fits the challenge when voting?
Based on comments like the above, it sounds to me like somebody could take a great picture of a motorcycle and if it was a high-quality shot with great "wow factor", it could do well "In The Garden"...
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07/30/2003 12:21:39 PM · #14 |
whoah, 350+ entries!!! i thought it'd settle somewhere just below the 'round' one, but when i logged on, boy was i surprised.
ok, off to take a peek. |
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07/30/2003 12:10:30 PM · #15 |
Personally I don't care how many bugs, flowers, cats, dogs, or what have you there are, it's the quality of the shot that counts. If there are a 100 terrific bug shots then that's OK. We all get to appreciate and maybe even learn from some great looking shots. And I have given a record number of 10's for the In The Garden challenge. Good luck to all.
Message edited by author 2003-07-30 12:12:39.
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07/30/2003 11:43:43 AM · #16 |
You should have submitted this photo! It would have done quite well. The other two below were more average.
Just one opinion.
Renee
Originally posted by csoka:
And also
pic3 |
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07/30/2003 11:24:29 AM · #17 |
that's gotta have a lot to do with it. . . .
also score is something of a predictor too. what's your score at now?
Originally posted by irockstars:
I wonder if my lack of comments are due to the high number of entries? |
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07/30/2003 11:21:37 AM · #18 |
| I wonder if my lack of comments are due to the high number of entries? |
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07/30/2003 11:07:33 AM · #19 |
csoka,
If you want to challenge yourself by adding extra restrictions onto the topic then feel free. For lots of people, however, it's challenging enough just to come up with a garden shot at all. We just couldn't make a flower the primary subject. Noone said that you couldn't take a macro shot, a bug shot, a leaf shot etc. With so many entries, there are often many with similar subjects, but what isn't fair is to penalize the photographer for having the same idea as someone else or for picking a subject that you might consider obvious or easy.
Just keep an open mind and enjoy each shot individually as I'm sure you'd want anyone to do with yours.
"I'm unhappy and disappointed, I looked the pictures related to garden. Too many subject is a bug with (or ?) _flower_, I think is not fair. I wanted to take the garden, without macro shot, if i knew i took a leaf with waterdrops only, that would have been easy... "
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07/30/2003 10:54:57 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by SoulHunter74:
Is 355 entries a record? |
From those that I have entered it is a record. I've been in most for over a year now. |
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07/30/2003 08:34:15 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
best tip i know of:
avoid looking at score in the first 24 hours after voting starts, lol. it's just so unstable and almost always much higher initially than where it ends up! |
On the most part this is true but in the Round challenge my score jumped by 0.7 from where it started and then hovered there for the rest of the challenge.
Message edited by author 2003-07-30 21:19:04. |
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07/30/2003 08:33:52 AM · #22 |
For my "garden entry", I stayed away from macro bugs. I even had my wife's scrapbooking group pick their favorite from the photos I had taken. By the way, none of them are invloved in DP. All in all, they thought is was a very nicely done photo and a couple of them were impressed enough to want a copy. But here I am with 37 votes, no comments and trying to hang onto a 5. At least I like the photo. That's what counts.
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07/30/2003 08:27:46 AM · #23 |
Thanks for your comments Jon.
Much appreciated.
And...yes it is just a bit of fun. I'm really enjoying seeing so many photos and having ideas.
Cheers |
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07/30/2003 08:16:01 AM · #24 |
ok, well, not strictly true. ive actually had a fair # go up! or even go down, THEN go up over the course of several days.
bottom line though: the score right at the beginning is rarely where it ends up ..
Originally posted by robsmith:
Originally posted by magnetic9999:
best tip i know of:
avoid looking at score in the first 24 hours after voting starts, lol. it's just so unstable and almost always much higher initially than where it ends up! |
Thanks for that gem Mag, almost always much higher initially than where it ends up!, that makes me feel so much better. Not |
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07/30/2003 08:11:42 AM · #25 |
bod :
Dracsay, if you are not a paid member of pbase you can't embed images (even thumbnails) here. You should just use the globe icon to insert links.
I'm so sorry, i didn't know. I edited my mistake :) Thx
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