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05/01/2011 11:15:43 AM · #1
ROFL, I just looked back to the beginning of this thread to see when it was started, and lo and behold, I started it! I had no idea!
05/01/2011 11:01:11 AM · #2
I use Hugin. Not the easiest program to work with, but with a bit of experimentation you'll find almost unlimited options. They have 15 or so stitching methods to choose from, some giving vastly different results, but some being very subtle, giving something a little different every time. I've had it rescue some pretty lousy panos for me - misaligned, exposure issues, etc. It's definitely worth a look.
04/21/2011 05:07:32 PM · #3
Hi,

Check out Gigapan this was stiched using Photoshop CS5.
I took it with my 50D on a panosaurus head and it was 3 rows of 32 images, stiched with almost no errors.

Bob
04/21/2011 04:31:01 PM · #4
Originally posted by jamesgoss:

//www.james-goss.com/dpc/final_resized.jpg

Oakland/Berkeley/San Francisco as seen from the Lawrence Hall of Science (Berkeley Hills). Change the end to .tif if you want a higher res/less lossy version.

Nice! I haven't been too successful at getting night exposures, but I take a lot of shots of the same scene, though usually from a little further down Grizzly Peak to the south ...
  
04/21/2011 04:02:59 PM · #5
//www.james-goss.com/dpc/final_resized.jpg

Oakland/Berkeley/San Francisco as seen from the Lawrence Hall of Science (Berkeley Hills). Change the end to .tif if you want a higher res/less lossy version.

Tried stitching this together by hand, but couldn't for the lift of me try to align twinkling lights. Used Panorama Factory (which has been greatly improved in the recent years-and is available for mac/pc) and it managed everything perfect on auto settings. That gigapixel thing seems cool, and relatively cheap for what it does, but I'd have a hard time buying it, there's no 'real world' use, other than posting on the internets.
04/21/2011 03:42:33 PM · #6
I'm pretty sure Hugin is available for Windows as well -- I think I got it a while ago (maybe for HDR?) but haven't had to install it ...

People might also want to refer to the Freebie Imaging Software thread.

Message edited by author 2011-04-21 15:44:29.
04/21/2011 03:28:28 PM · #7
I used this program

//hugin.sourceforge.net/

To do this shot

//www.smugmug.com/gallery/16689881_dnVJ6N#1258559980_8ctQ4Zz-X2-LB

Honestly this was my first try at a pano and stitching but I'm happy with the way it came out. Hugin was extremely easy to use, however I think its only available on Mac, but I'm not positive...
04/21/2011 02:53:47 PM · #8
i've been using CS4 to do panos, and considering what i'm working with, i'm pretty happy

lotsa power lines

lotta noise and camera shake

put my tripod on the roof of my car to get this...
04/21/2011 01:55:50 PM · #9
Originally posted by kirbic:

Good lord, a seven-year-old thread resurrection!

As long as it's here ... I've been using the free (Windows) demo version of AutoStitch for quite a while ... you can see some examples in this gallery.
04/21/2011 10:28:08 AM · #10
Good lord, a seven-year-old thread resurrection!
04/21/2011 02:24:45 AM · #11
I really want to get this setup, pretty close to taking the plunge, not huge dollars, just not sure how often ill actually use it.

GigaPan

Has anyone here used it?
04/04/2004 04:32:27 PM · #12
Originally posted by ButterflySis:

Originally posted by nshapiro:

I don't know about "in stores" (probably); but I am sure you can also order it in physical package form online from them.

Also, note there is an older free version you can download which is very similar, but doesn't do some of the adjustments the newer PF does. I personally decided to buy, but I have used both:

//www.panoramafactory.com/download.html#freeware


Thanks, Neil. I did see that you could buy the CD for an additional $12 or something. I was just wondering how it would work if I downloaded the software and my computer died (which could be possible shortly!). Would I then just have to re-download PF and use the same reg. number?

Thanks again!


As I recall, you can download the software before you buy it. So there's no risk. Then you pay and they give you a registration number that you enter in a dialog and you are set. So there's no risk of losing your money to an incomplete download.

Regards--Neil
04/04/2004 02:36:59 PM · #13
Originally posted by kirbic:

Just wondering, what software are other DPCer's using for stitching panoramas?
I've been playing with Panavue, which is OK, but there is one major failing. It cannot save a multi-layer image, which really limits what you can fix post-stitch.
I also have PanoTools, but have not had a chance to work with it much.


have you tried using the software provided by canon??? it came with my camera but I have never used it. if you want a copy let me know.
04/04/2004 02:24:15 PM · #14
Originally posted by nshapiro:

I don't know about "in stores" (probably); but I am sure you can also order it in physical package form online from them.

Also, note there is an older free version you can download which is very similar, but doesn't do some of the adjustments the newer PF does. I personally decided to buy, but I have used both:

//www.panoramafactory.com/download.html#freeware


Thanks, Neil. I did see that you could buy the CD for an additional $12 or something. I was just wondering how it would work if I downloaded the software and my computer died (which could be possible shortly!). Would I then just have to re-download PF and use the same reg. number?

Thanks again!


04/04/2004 01:26:49 PM · #15
Originally posted by ButterflySis:

[quote=cpanaioti]
..snip..
I did download Panorama Factory awhile back (the free trial) and have used it a few times. I thought it worked wonderfully. Do you have to purchase PF as a download or can it be bought in stores?
..snip..


I don't know about "in stores" (probably); but I am sure you can also order it in physical package form online from them.

Also, note there is an older free version you can download which is very similar, but doesn't do some of the adjustments the newer PF does. I personally decided to buy, but I have used both:

//www.panoramafactory.com/download.html#freeware

04/04/2004 01:14:39 PM · #16
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

I've now tried Panorama Factory as well. My guess is that it will work very well with perfectly aligned images. Ones requiring slight rotation to line up need manual adjustment.

The image I posted earlier in this thread would require much tinkering with Panorama Factory whereas with PTGui it did all the calculations and adjustments for me. The only trick was to get the feathering just right to eliminate all signs of stitching. Also, it created a layered photoshop file that could be adjusted further.

PTAssembler did pretty much the same as PTGui but has a problem when you use a teleconverter attached to the lens. I can't seem to get it to make the proper calculation for Horiz. FOV in order to get the proper finished image size. If anyone has a suggestion for this, that would be appreciated.

Thanks for all the help so far.


Actually, I doubt many of the panoramics I've used PF are "perfectly aligned". I take most my panoramics hand held, and I also did a number while on a moving ship.

Glad you found something you liked, but I thought I'd mention that you can also fine tune PF.

Regards--Neil
04/04/2004 08:14:15 AM · #17
Originally posted by ButterflySis:



I tried the Canon software once and it totally screwed up the stitching. I wasn't happy with it at all. You said it worked for you? I may have to give it another shot.



The automatic stitching doesn't always work but you can select any join point and adjust it yourself. You can even select matching parts of the images being merged, similar to the control points in PanoTools. The limitations I've discovered are that there is no colour/brightness matching and the result is not a layered photoshop file.

In playing with PhotoStitch again I've discovered more features which I will have to try.

edit: spelling

Message edited by author 2004-04-04 08:14:41.
04/04/2004 03:59:57 AM · #18
Anyone try Ulead Cool 360?
04/04/2004 12:40:26 AM · #19
Check out this site - it might be useful ;-)

Message edited by author 2004-04-04 00:41:00.
04/03/2004 11:52:11 PM · #20
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

I use the Canon software that came with my camera. It does a good job IMO. It's very easy to use though may be too limited compared to others described here.


I tried the Canon software once and it totally screwed up the stitching. I wasn't happy with it at all. You said it worked for you? I may have to give it another shot.

I did download Panorama Factory awhile back (the free trial) and have used it a few times. I thought it worked wonderfully. Do you have to purchase PF as a download or can it be bought in stores?

Edit:

Gordon: Those are awesome shots! Really love the TS one. Wow!

Message edited by author 2004-04-03 23:53:11.
04/03/2004 09:29:00 PM · #21
I've now tried Panorama Factory as well. My guess is that it will work very well with perfectly aligned images. Ones requiring slight rotation to line up need manual adjustment.

The image I posted earlier in this thread would require much tinkering with Panorama Factory whereas with PTGui it did all the calculations and adjustments for me. The only trick was to get the feathering just right to eliminate all signs of stitching. Also, it created a layered photoshop file that could be adjusted further.

PTAssembler did pretty much the same as PTGui but has a problem when you use a teleconverter attached to the lens. I can't seem to get it to make the proper calculation for Horiz. FOV in order to get the proper finished image size. If anyone has a suggestion for this, that would be appreciated.

Thanks for all the help so far.
04/03/2004 08:04:25 PM · #22
Not selling anything here, but I thought I would add a key factor (at least to me) in Panorama Factory. Besides the exceptional job it does, the thing I like most about it that the other tools don't have, is you get great results AUTOMATICALLY, with no futzing.

Since you get good results in 1 or 2 minutes or so of effort, I never noticed whether or not it was a memory hog (I don't think so) because it's not necessary to have it running more than a minute or two!

A five shot panorama from Glacier Bay Alaska this August. Especially difficult because this was shot while I was on a moving cruise liner (though we were going slow ;)

04/03/2004 06:51:24 PM · #23
Originally posted by cpanaioti:



Do you use the psd with or without layer masks? I'm not too familiar with masks yet so would like to know the advantages of creating the layers with masks as apposed to without.


With the masks, it means I can go back in and tidy up the stitching - depending on the scene that can be vital to getting a good result.

E.g., this Times Sq pano - I had to use masks so that I could control the start and stop of the cars - which panotools doesn't handle well at all, because they moved from frame to frame. Masks let me do that easily. Even then it isn't perfect, but it looks a lot better.



Same with this pano - I used edited masks to add/ remove people:



Message edited by author 2004-04-03 18:52:59.
04/03/2004 05:50:48 PM · #24
PTGui result: (the righthand image had a red colour cast) I did a colour match using the left image as reference.



Now I'm being cheap, is there any front end helper for panotools that is free? Both PTGui and PTAssembler are trial for 30 days then you have to register (and pay).

Message edited by author 2004-04-03 18:25:50.
04/03/2004 05:33:33 PM · #25
Originally posted by faidoi:

I know that PS & Elements are memory hogs. Are these other programs any better?


Any/all programs that deal with multiple images at 3,4...6, or more Mpx are going to eat memory like there's no tomorrow. Last thing you want when trying to stitch a panorama is the program needing to page to disk; it will take forever to stitch it! If you experience this, only thing to do is add memory.
BTW, PanoTools is about the least memory intensive program, since there is essentially no user interface. it is very compact. The user interface that I use, PTGUI, is also pretty spartan.
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