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01/15/2006 11:04:37 AM · #1 |
Originally posted by Tom_Robbrecht:
My main worry is : are all these snipers really taking enough precautions to ensure security of their data ie YOUR eybay id and password ? I don't know. |
last time I looked (about a year ago) it was against ebays user agreement to let someone else use your username/password, in fact here is the section,
Originally posted by ebay user agreement:
2. User ID.
You must choose a User ID and password on completion of registration. You are responsible for all actions taken under that User ID and password and shall only use or utilise the Site using your own User ID and password. You must use every effort to keep your password safe and should not disclose it to any other person. You shall not transfer or sell your User ID to any other person. You shall also not permit, either directly or indirectly, any other person to utilise your User ID or password.
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The last sentence seems to imply that giving your username/password to a sniping website would be reason enough to get you suspended or banned from ebay, using sniping software on your own computer however should be fine.
In saying this though I have never heard of anyone getting suspended for using a sniping website, and it would be something which I'm sure ebay could easily check up on if they wanted to...
Personally I do the multiple window thing like AFViper it's more fun :)
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01/15/2006 10:27:10 AM · #2 |
I use ebay ALOT.....buying/selling....I make enough on selling my couple extra Steeler tickets to pay for the entire next years set of tickets!
I personally don't use a snipe, I bid up to my max and then try to watch it closely at the end. I guess I have no one to blame but myself but I HATE the snipe programs. I don't believe that is what the original concept of eBay is. I particularly hate when someone comes in and STEALS the item that you have been bidding on for 5 days. I prefer to use BIN if I really want it that bad however bidding sometimes results in getting it lower than BIN then someone bursts in the door and yanks it out of my hands..... oh well, I guess if I wanted to be like them there are programs that would do that for me. I like the good old auction format.
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01/15/2006 09:48:19 AM · #3 |
I've pondered the "giving your password to a snipe program" question... but then I figured that if anything bad happened to my account, I'd spot it quickly, so the risk of exposure is low. Personally, I use JBidWatcher as my sniping software. It's free!
Sometimes I bid during the last day, sometimes I snipe. Depends on the item and the amount of interest. But I always bid the maximum I'm willing to pay - bidding lower amounts and stepping up gives other people an advantage over me. And if I bid my maximum and still lose, then there's no regret because it was more than I was willing to pay.
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01/15/2006 09:34:25 AM · #4 |
I would just bid what my max would be and still be considered a good deal and go to sleep. You won't be paying any more than your max whether someone 'snipes' you or not. If someone does 'snipe' you, you wouldn't have tried to outbid him/her at the last minute anyway, would you? If you don't win the auction, there will always be another.....bet on it.
P.S. I have e-mailed people who have BIN prices and gotten it for lower than the BIN price. Then again, I would also buy 2 or 3 items from that person.
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01/15/2006 09:10:31 AM · #5 |
| E-snipe all the way for things I really want. |
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01/08/2006 04:31:42 PM · #6 |
I snipe, but don't use any software to do it.
...It's interesting to see the replies here. And it never ceases to amaze me how far we've come. For the (vast) majority of years I've been on this planet (!?), we've never had anything remotely like an eBay. To sell buy or sell something, you went to your local mall, flea market, or *if you REALLY wanted coverage*, you paid for an ad in your local swap sheet or newspaper. You might get 100s (!) of people to view your ad. Today you have a global markeplace, with literally millions of potential buyers.
It also amazes me how many people (generally young, ...no offence ;-) take this new paradigm for granted... |
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01/08/2006 03:44:31 PM · #7 |
I definitely snipe - I wait until the last minute or less and place my bid. I win more times than not that way. I avoid bidding too early because it only makes the price go up and up and I even sometimes avoid "watching" an item just so there seems to be no interest.
Many time shipping costs are high but there are a lot of fair sellers too. Just gotta pay attention and bid wisely. I think it's easy to get in the "I wanna win" mode and forget to be conservative with your bidding.
Ebay is a lot of fun though. You can get some deals if you're careful. My latest win was a 43" 5-in-1 reflector that B&H sells for about $60. I paid half that (including S&H) and it was brand new, too.
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01/08/2006 03:21:43 PM · #8 |
I get frustrated with ebay. BIN is great for some things. Other times i laugh at the price, but as least i know what the seller wants. I have tgotten new stuff this way - at least you know you got it.
Many auctions end with me at work or when i'm busy elswhere. Very frustrating. I don't like the high shipping fees, but i always look at the total price and go on that anyway.
I have tried the snipe bit and the place a max bid and wait. max bid is less stressful for sure.
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01/08/2006 12:24:46 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by alixmiles:
Max bid and watch it if I can. I also will bump my max bid in the last minute or so If I see activity. I have won 2 auctions lately for sndisk ultra II 2gb cards in the last min or so. One was 125 with shipping and the other was 135 with shipping. I hate the auctions where they gig you on shipping....I wont even bid on those. It doesnt take 20 dollars to ship a compact flash card.
Whenever I sell...I always use actual shippping costs. |
I always put free shipping in my listings if the buyer meets my BIN price. I think people like it because they know exactly how much they will have to pay with no add-ons. About half, or more, of my items go for BIN price.
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01/08/2006 12:17:18 PM · #10 |
Max bid and watch it if I can. I also will bump my max bid in the last minute or so If I see activity. I have won 2 auctions lately for sndisk ultra II 2gb cards in the last min or so. One was 125 with shipping and the other was 135 with shipping. I hate the auctions where they gig you on shipping....I wont even bid on those. It doesnt take 20 dollars to ship a compact flash card.
Whenever I sell...I always use actual shippping costs. |
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01/08/2006 12:15:02 PM · #11 |
You can get software to do the "snipe" bidding from your own computer, and therefore don't have to give your info to anyone. And the programs are cheap -- like $15.
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01/08/2006 12:08:57 PM · #12 |
My main worry is : are all these snipers really taking enough precautions to ensure security of their data ie YOUR eybay id and password ? I don't know.
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01/08/2006 12:05:07 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Tom_Robbrecht:
I too have thought about using a bid sniper but I feel VERY uncomfortable giving away my ebay id and password for a third party to use.
Any thoughts on this ? |
Phantom Bidder has been around for quite some time and they make their money through fees ($0.25/auction won) and there may be a few ads. I've never had any problems and I've used them for almost 2 yrs. My dad told me about the place and uses them a lot more than I do and he's never had any probs either.
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01/08/2006 11:57:54 AM · #14 |
Well, I was the high bidder, but it didn't meet the reserve. The guy has had great communication, even sending photos right away when I asked for more info about a few items. Still, I think it's only worth about what I bid, perhaps a bit more.
I guess it's why I'm a good Realtor...as much as I want something (or know that my clients do), you gotta step back and look at the business side of things too.
If he'll sell it for my high bid, I'll have a new camera. (Here's hoping) If not, I guess I'll keep looking. |
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01/08/2006 10:46:12 AM · #15 |
Just because of snipers, I have now taken the stance of putting in my max value and leaving it. If I don't get it for that, then move on!
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01/08/2006 09:54:53 AM · #16 |
I too have thought about using a bid sniper but I feel VERY uncomfortable giving away my ebay id and password for a third party to use.
Any thoughts on this ?
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01/07/2006 11:14:43 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by AFViper:
I am also a last second bidder. I actually have multiple windows open at the confirm bid page. At around 30 seconds I confirm my lowest bid, if that doesn't get me over the previous bidder I can bid again within a couple seconds. This has worked very well for me so far. |
We must've taken the same class on Ebaying. Multiple windows is awesome just in case the highest bidder is just a little higher than you. |
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01/07/2006 10:23:30 PM · #18 |
I've bought and sold a ton on ebay. There is a site called auctionsniper.com and if you aren't going to be around to jump in at the last minute, you can enter your bid, and it'll stick it in there within the last 3 seconds for you. Sometimes that works.
I've bid using it, sitting there myself, or just bidding and figuring if I get it, I do, if not, I don't. I guess it depends on what it is and how much you want it. :~D |
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01/07/2006 10:09:35 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
I use a snipe site (Phantom Bidder) that lets me bid at literally the last second and I can bid on auctions that end well after my bedtime or when I'm at work and can't access the net.
I can also setup to bid for identical items on multiple auctions and if I win one, it automatically won't bid for me on the rest.
It doesn't do anything that I couldn't do myself, it just doesn't need me to do it in person. |
Yeah, thats why I dont touch the place anymore.
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01/07/2006 09:05:57 PM · #20 |
I used to put in my max bid and let ebay bid for me. That was ok for most stuff but when I was trying to bid for an EOS 5 35mm film camera I was outbid twice in the last minute or so.
Then I started to bid as late as possible usually with about 10-15 seconds to go and it worked great.
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01/07/2006 08:58:17 PM · #21 |
I use a snipe site (Phantom Bidder) that lets me bid at literally the last second and I can bid on auctions that end well after my bedtime or when I'm at work and can't access the net.
I can also setup to bid for identical items on multiple auctions and if I win one, it automatically won't bid for me on the rest.
It doesn't do anything that I couldn't do myself, it just doesn't need me to do it in person.
Message edited by author 2006-01-07 21:09:22.
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01/07/2006 08:42:09 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
I usually bid with less than 10 seconds left, and always place one and only one bid, for the highest amount I'm objectively willing to pay. If someone outbids me, I didn't want it at that price anyway. |
I use a similar method. I research the item first and then decide what my max bid will be. And bid in the last 10 seconds.
Although, when someone outbids me by 50c or whatever, I always think "maybe I should have...." |
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01/07/2006 08:37:50 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by AFViper:
I am also a last second bidder. I actually have multiple windows open at the confirm bid page. At around 30 seconds I confirm my lowest bid, if that doesn't get me over the previous bidder I can bid again within a couple seconds. This has worked very well for me so far. |
This doesn't make sense to me. Why not just bid your highest bid? The system will automatically boost your bid, if necessary to top the next bidder, until your max is reached. There's no way you can match the speed manually.
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You still do this at the last minute.
Message edited by author 2006-01-07 20:38:47. |
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01/07/2006 08:10:07 PM · #24 |
There's only one way to bid (outside BIN) IMO, and that's to snipe. Putting your bid out there earlier just advertises your interest; never a good thing. I usually bid with less than 10 seconds left, and always place one and only one bid, for the highest amount I'm objectively willing to pay. If someone outbids me, I didn't want it at that price anyway.
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01/07/2006 06:00:23 PM · #25 |
| My preferred method is the BIN. That way you know what price is going to be and I am willing to pay a couple of bucks extra if it's something I really want/need. If not, I will do feeler bids to see if someone has a higher price than me. If they do, I bid my highest and call it a day. Otherwise, I will wait until the last few seconds and place my highest bid and hope for the best. |
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